NY Hunter Survey

[Culvercreek hunt club]

Mike,

 

Have you guys placed anything in the Outdoor News?

[mike rossi]

When that link gets fixed let me know, I'd like to send a donation for the placement of the ad in the syllabus.  

 

Here it is: http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/contact.html

[Lawdwaz]

Here it is: http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/contact.html

 

I got that link figured out.........this is the one that says (for me anyway) "sorry, something went wrong":

 

https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fnydovehunting.weebly.com%2Fcontact.html&h=dAQEqG7oZ&enc=AZPI30YYKVdLiDt7eMGTXIjJFCg3gwO14QwvJRDe1dHouz9kEUrOJ2zuGpep-O0wgLjY_kKwbNNvsssmXUdy6SPGq4u--yEtWdO1MRKkgQnEtfGmEI_LRp_A6J-shQM5ZLGssTP52mQAuX9KcKeUKnxcRrdcqQywXfCwWqjuCwFWvA&s=1

[Lawdwaz]

When that link gets fixed let me know, I'd like to send a donation for the placement of the ad in the syllabus.  

 

Anybody else interested in sending some help their way this is the ad I'm referring to:

 

http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/help-fund-advertising-for-ny-dove-hunting.html

[Lawdwaz]

I hate to beg for information but is this what everybody else see's when they go to the above mentioned page:

 

Something Went Wrong

Sorry, there was a problem with this link: http://nydovehunting. weebly.com/contact.html
You can now continue to this website, or go back to the page you were on before.
Remember, only follow links from sources you trust.

[mike rossi]

 

I hate to beg for information but is this what everybody else see's when they go to the above mentioned page:

 

Something Went Wrong

Sorry, there was a problem with this link: http://nydovehunting. weebly.com/contact.html

You can now continue to this website, or go back to the page you were on before.

Remember, only follow links from sources you trust.

 

 

Yeah, I don't know the link works, just not from here. Something called parsing. Google is picking up our site by now, so you can just search NY Dove Hunting, you will get a few of our sites the one for this is the website not the social media. Go to "contact". It is all working.  

[mike rossi]

4 seasons -

 

You might be in a spot that lacks good habitat. 2 winters back, I had over 50 at the bird feeder daily. The wife and I were wondering how long we could survive on dove in a famine.

 

This winter they moved out. The local climate center called February the coldest winter on record. I have 3 or 4. I would have left if I had wings.

 

I have flushed hundreds at a time from harvested corn fields.

 

 

Have you ever been to the DEC Saratoga Tree Nursery? It looks like that place should be loaded with doves. 

[mike rossi]

I actually saw more doves this year than any year previously in the areas I hunt. would have liked to have taken the survey. Wouldn't mind adding a bird to the list you can take but have no interest in paying more to do it.

Bob,

 

Since you are subscribed to us on face book, you will get a different survey. Although a few may have taken this survey, we really didn't want a biased survey, so we tried to distribute it all over, and I think we did. The other survey will be more to gather insight about things pertinent to people who are indeed interested in a NY dove season, so there is no vice in directing it at our subscribers, that is exactly what we want to do - we wont be representing this as a broad representation of attitudes and opinions.

 

As far as the dove stamp, we need peoples opinion on it. We need to have something in a bill package that offers benefits to those who do not hunt, if not a stamp, something else. Similarly, the lawmakers need an arguing point if they are going to call any meetings among themselves to justify why a dove bill should be passed or is even worthy of a vote. NY has a history of dove bills that never once progressed. One reason is nobody is contacting the lawmakers in support; and the other reason is the lawmakers have not been given much to sell their colleagues with. Don't forget, this is not a DEC initiative, so lawmakers are not being compelled by them, which differs from most other pro-hunting legislation.  A dove stamp is one approach, and it should translate into better hunting opportunity. If our surveys determine most hunters object to a dove stamp, the lawmakers will be advised, but I think there should also be an awareness among lawmakers  that  this funding strategy is an option.  

 

Mike,

 

Have you guys placed anything in the Outdoor News?

 

We are not thinking about it at this time. The regulation guide reaches far more people (750,000) and it better represents the total hunting community. It is important we reach the so-called "unorganized sportsmen" whose voice is under-represented. 

Edited March 12, 2015 by mike rossi

[Curmudgeon]

 

We are not thinking about it at this time. The regulation guide reaches far more people (750,000) and it better represents the total hunting community. It is important we reach the so-called "unorganized sportsmen" whose voice is under-represented. 

 

Mike -

 

I have not received a regulation guide since I started buying my license on the phone. I don't spend much time on it on-line - basically only checking for changes. I would probably miss your ad.

 

They should give every license holder a paper copy of the regs but money is tight.

 

[mike rossi]

Mike -

 

I have not received a regulation guide since I started buying my license on the phone. I don't spend much time on it on-line - basically only checking for changes. I would probably miss your ad.

 

They should give every license holder a paper copy of the regs but money is tight.

 

 

Since we buy annual licenses, I am not aware of how this is handled for those who have lifetime licenses. We buy our annual NY license at the store and they give me one book and my wife one book. NY has about 750,000 resident and non-resident  licensees every year on average, I am pretty sure they offer a hard copy to every one of them, I can't imagine how that would not be true, even in the internet age. We buy our out of state licenses online and all the states I hunt mail me a hard copy of their regulation magazine.

 

I also wanted to expand on what I said to Culver about the reach of the regulation guide. The NYON is a weekly or biweekly paper. So it goes in the trash in a matter of days. By contrast, people hold on to the regulation guide for a year, until they get the following year's edition. It is very reasonable to assume that over the entire hunting season, most active hunters constantly refer back to the sunrise and sunset tables in the guide. Surely many hunters also refer to the guide on a regular basis during the hunting season for regulations, season dates, etc., in addition to the sunrise/sunset table... 

 

I think if we advertise we are helping defray the cost of printing. We just had a more or less across - the -  board sporting license reduction, so now is the money tight, despite a year or two ago it was testified that the conservation fund was fat and needed to go on a diet, and the prescribed diet was to reduce license fees, what happened? A dove stamp would add a few calories, perhaps not many, but some... 

[Culvercreek hunt club]

The last 3 years I have had to go looking to find a hard copy of one since the issuing agent didn't have any. I did find one but it took a couple stops.

[mike rossi]

The last 3 years I have had to go looking to find a hard copy of one since the issuing agent didn't have any. I did find one but it took a couple stops.

 

Don't buy your license from an agent that is not careful with how many are dolled out or lets his minimum wagers misplace them.

 

I am sure the DEC knows how many books to give each license agent. And I know agents have been instructed to ask if the license buyer wants one and only to give out one per hunter. If you are not finding the books my guess is those particular agents are not handling them the way they are supposed to. If they screw up, of course they are going to give you some excuse, such as the DEC doesn't give us enough. Heck, sometimes the screw up is they just don't want to open the box...

 

If I am wrong, and someone from the DEC tells you they are not giving out a calculated number of books to each agent, please let me know, this would be a surprise. I think the DEC knows both the past history regarding how many licenses each agent sells, and how many hunters in the locality compared to how many license agents. If they do not have a handle on this, yet want to print with minimal waste, they should start figuring it out. Like I said, if I am wrong I want to know about it, but I think you are just dealing with retail irresponsibility, the country is full of it... 

[Curmudgeon]

When I asked for the regulation book while ordering my license on the phone, I was told to go to my Town Clerk to get one. I have to assume that internet orders are treated the same.

[fasteddie]

I have never had a problem getting a Regs Booklet from the Town Clerk's Office .