Should I buy a 270

[Mr VJP]

Let's not derail this post any further.I know and many others do also that there is a group of great marksmen on this site.With that a 270 is very accurate to 1000yrds with the best shooters.

 

How much does a 130 gr .270 btsp drop at 1000 yards when sighted in for a 200 yard zero, and how much drift must be accounted for in a 10 MPH crosswind?

 

Shooting that far off a bench rest is difficult enough.  Anyone who thinks they can guarantee a one shot hit at that range on a live animal that may move, while resting their shooting iron on a back pack, log or bi-pod in the field, with ANY rifle, is a man you should bet BIG money against when he offers the chance.

 

There was once a time when the .30-06 was the 1000 yard champion in competition.  The .270 never was champion at 1000 yards in competition.  I believe the reason has to do with real world variables not working out the way ballistic tables say they should.

 

Besides the man asked for other opinions.  Mine is still the same.  There is so little difference in performance between the two it would be redundant to buy a .270 if one has an -06, and vice  versa.

Edited March 27, 2015 by Mr VJP

[Mr VJP]

 

 

Hope you all can read these charts.  They go to 1200 yards.

 

As you can see the .270 does shoot flatter, but look at the wind drift.

Edited March 27, 2015 by Mr VJP

[NFA-ADK]

Nothing wrong with having a spare in case you drop one, like that never happens.  My back ups are 30-30 and 30-06 for my 44 Mag. 

[BizCT]

Biz...I agree that the Weatherby mags excell at shooting flat at long range...That is what they are designed for...

However, in order to do that they burn a LOT of powder compared to conventional chamberings and the ammo costs a LOT of money, especially if you are not a handloader.

They just are not as practical a choice as a hunting rifle for Joe Average Hunter as perhaps, a .270 win or a 30-06, and for MOST hunters the long range advantages that they offer are not necessary.

I hear ya but since I only go out west every few years the wby mag is perfect. I actually prefer the 7mmwbymag but we were talking 270s. Maybe if I rifle hunted in Ny I might feel differently but probably not since I only shoot handful of times per year to make sure the sights are on

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[dbHunterNY]

How much does a 130 gr .270 btsp drop at 1000 yards when sighted in for a 200 yard zero, and how much drift must be accounted for in a 10 MPH crosswind?

 

Shooting that far off a bench rest is difficult enough.  Anyone who thinks they can guarantee a one shot hit at that range on a live animal that may move, while resting their shooting iron on a back pack, log or bi-pod in the field, with ANY rifle, is a man you should bet BIG money against when he offers the chance.

 

There was once a time when the .30-06 was the 1000 yard champion in competition.  The .270 never was champion at 1000 yards in competition.  I believe the reason has to do with real world variables not working out the way ballistic tables say they should.

 

Besides the man asked for other opinions.  Mine is still the same.  There is so little difference in performance between the two it would be redundant to buy a .270 if one has an -06, and vice  versa.

 

are we answering in feet, lengths of deer, or car lengths?  just wonderin'.

 

only reason to get a 270 in my mind is "a yaht 6 kicks way too much!", in which i'll agree that a 270 has less recoil but not by much.  im not partial to either other than the fact I've got a couple 30-06 rifles and no 270.  if i started to shoot some big stuff I'd feel a little better with an 30-06 breathing fire and a bigger bullet.  it's silly to argue one versus the other though. i don't care who used what, back when.

 

[dbHunterNY]

Nothing wrong with having a spare in case you drop one, like that never happens.  My back ups are 30-30 and 30-06 for my 44 Mag. 

 

that's odd your backups for a straight walled cartridge are those.

[eagle rider]

I have both '06 and 270 Win (and WSM).  There is a lot of over lap, but overall I enjoy both calibers a lot.  The 270 is a bit flatter and when I've gone out west and down to SC and VA, I prefer the 270's.  They just do better shooting across open fields.  At 3000 fps, a 130 gr bullet 1.1" high at 100 yds is in the X-ring at 200 yds.  I love '06, but the 270 does everything the '06 will to whatever walks on hooves.  

[ants]

For me it more of liking the rifle then needing the caliber. I have my eye on a sweet 700 lefty. .270cal wood stock and blued steel. Gorgeous rifle and it shoulders great. I already have a 30-06, 25-06 and a 7mm-08…..But I might just add a 270 because I really like the rifle.

[Pygmy]

" Wood stock and blued steel"....Gives me goosebumps...<<SIGH>>...

 

I love you, Man....You are hereby formally invited to go out and get drunk and pick up chicks with me and a select few from this forum...

 

Borngeechee can be our DD since he doesn't drink..

 

Nice batttery you have there, despite the overlap...Who cares  if there is some overlap ?

 

Actually, with light bullets the 25-06 makes a dandy long range varmint rig, unless pelt damage is an issue.

 

All you need now is a medium bore, heavy bullet thumper, in case you need to stop a grizzly or take a ranging shot on a heavy animal like an elk or a moose.

[wildcat junkie]

" Wood stock and blued steel"....Gives me goosebumps......

Let me refine that. "Oil finished wood stock" & rust blued steel"....Gives me goosebumps......

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All you need now is a medium bore, heavy bullet thumper, in case you need to stop a grizzly or take a ranging shot on a heavy animal like an elk or a moose.

An 8x57 with full power European loads with 200gr bullets or "adult pressure" hand loads of the same flavor would suffice.

[Pygmy]

Let me refine that. "Oil finished wood stock" & rust blued steel"....Gives me goosebumps......

.An 8x57 with full power European loads with 200gr bullets or "adult pressure" hand loads of the same flavor would suffice.

 

Quite true, Wildcat, but the same thing could be said about a 30-06 with good 200 grain handloads.

 

When I think heavy medium caliber bullets, I'm thinking .338 or .358 or .366 or .375  with 250 grain or heavier bullets.

[grampy]

Because I really like the rifle......

Is there really any other reason needed?

[ants]

" Wood stock and blued steel"....Gives me goosebumps...<<SIGH>>...

 

I love you, Man....You are hereby formally invited to go out and get drunk and pick up chicks with me and a select few from this forum...

 

Borngeechee can be our DD since he doesn't drink..

 

Nice batttery you have there, despite the overlap...Who cares  if there is some overlap ?

 

Actually, with light bullets the 25-06 makes a dandy long range varmint rig, unless pelt damage is an issue.

 

All you need now is a medium bore, heavy bullet thumper, in case you need to stop a grizzly or take a ranging shot on a heavy animal like an elk or a moose.

LOL!! Just say when & where!!!

 

Actually I also have an old school (wood and blued steel) Remmy 700 in 22-250 so the 25-06 will be another deer rig.

 

Heavy bullet thumper huh???  Hmmmm

[BKhunter]

I appreciate all the input. They reason I was looking at the 270 was specifically the Ruger bolt action with wood stock and blued steel barrel. I just really wanted a nice wood stock white tail rifle. My 30-06 is a weatherby with a black synthetic stock which I love. I beat the hell out of it and it has never given me an issue. I have been hunting with it for the past decade and I love the rifle. I just really wanted a nice wood grain bolt action hunting rifle.

[The_Real_TCIII]

I appreciate all the input. They reason I was looking at the 270 was specifically the Ruger bolt action with wood stock and blued steel barrel. I just really wanted a nice wood stock white tail rifle. My 30-06 is a weatherby with a black synthetic stock which I love. I beat the hell out of it and it has never given me an issue. I have been hunting with it for the past decade and I love the rifle. I just really wanted a nice wood grain bolt action hunting rifle.

then dammit, you should have one!