New antlers...

[kpkot]

Buckstophere- do you ever mess around with scents on the scrape part or are you exclusively using the licking branch from another site? If your making a new man made scrape with your zip tied licking branch im assuming you still scuff the ground as well to give the visual as well?

[Buckstopshere]

Over all the years I have partially funded the bottled deer scent industry.   But anymore, I just use the branch. Don't even need to scuff the ground because I usually put the setup (branch) at a junction of two trails, or just off it, about 20 yards from the best tree for a tree stand in that area. All about the quality of the tree stand tree to me, like a triple-trunk, etc. The deer paw the ground up as they work the branch. No sense adding my scent there any more than I need to. But I do take cotton swabs and swab out the mouth of does and bucks I kill and zip-tie them on the branches too. Saliva is the main sex, internal-clock-setting pheromone carrier in my humble opinion, much more so than urine. I don't think anybody sells it, though it would be much more effective than urine-based lures...imo. So I make my own and freeze the cotton balls in zip-lock bags, haul them out next year. I presume that a lot of the volatile pheromone molecules degrade even in the freezer, but saliva-soaked cotton swabs seem to kick-start buck action even when they have been setting in the freezer one, two, three years.

Edited May 15, 2016 by Buckstopshere

[Buckstopshere]

Lip-smakin' good! And two vid clips of bucks working over the zip-tied branch, enhanced with deer saliva soaked cotton balls.

11:12:11 working the cotton ball 8 pt. .AVI

Midday 8 pt. 11 am, working cotton ball .AVI

[turkeyfeathers]

This is neat stuff !!!  Thanks for sharing

[growalot]

 

Saliva is the main sex, internal-clock-setting pheromone carrier in my humble opinion, much more so than urine.

 

That maybe the tip of the year here..I read someplace this week that NYS has a possible urine ban on the table for this year...

[growalot]

Speaking of antlers ...I hope to  get a pic of the deer I saw last night. Coming home I always slow and check out the lane way. Well the neighbors road (grassy trail) next to my fence had deer. They were right by the road and the one had something I've never seen before. He had a solid beam across the top of his head about 4-5 inches high. It immediately  reminded me of a suede covered pommel horse..even though he didn't look particularly big  you could see distinct skin lines along the base of his neck and over his shoulders...I actual stopped and backed up to get a better look at him. he had 4 other deer at least 2 buck with him...They were too far back to get a size comparison....Looks like I may move a few cams around..

[Four Season Whitetail's]

That maybe the tip of the year here..I read someplace this week that NYS has a possible urine ban on the table for this year...

It has been tabled the last i knew. They are aware of the lawsuit that will follow any silly moves like those. No science or fact that whitetail urine has ever carried any disease or harm to any wildlife.

[Buckstopshere]

It has been tabled the last i knew. They are aware of the lawsuit that will follow any silly moves like those. No science or fact that whitetail urine has ever carried any disease or harm to any wildlife.

 

I have faith that NY's game managers/biologists will not follow in a knee jerk fashion, Vermont. And Pa. might cave yet. Nothing Pa. does in deer management would surprise me. There is no scientific proof that CWD is transmitted by deer urine. These types of assertions (that deer urine transmits CWD) take only a little breath, a couple strokes on the keyboard, from those who have only contempt for observation and the scientific method. Before these types of assertions are even made it should take hard work, measurement, records, and lots of labor...not to mention before these types of off-the-cuff conclusions are made into law.