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#121 WNYBuckHunter

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 07:42 PM

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within 5 years it will not be aone time fee trust me. It willbe a renew fee and a background check every 5 years at the most.

I doubt that. But lets play devil's advocate. You do have to renew your drivers license, and an instant background check wouldnt be the end of the world. Now a 9 month check process each time its renewed, no way.

would you care to make a wager? With the monetry problems in this state and another dem governr to be elected, it will happen say a couple hundred every 5 years, and if you have  atraffic ticket, it could jeopardize it.

LOL, with the time frame we would be looking at for a bet on that to be worth a damn, we probably wont be able to make good on the bet anyhow. Traffic tickets now? Thats just ridiculous and wont happen. No offense, but have you ever seen a UFO?
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#122 bubba

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Posted 09 August 2010 - 07:44 PM

no offense and no. The more control we give the govt the more they will take. we had a guy in this county lose his permit for three speeding tickets, due to not beig responsible. They can revoke a permit for anything.
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Posted 09 August 2010 - 07:48 PM

pull your head out of the sand  and see what is really going on
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Posted 09 August 2010 - 07:48 PM

Well, I have never heard of that stuff going on up here, its downstate BS. Id like to see some articles on things like that, those people may have some cases that the NRA would love to know about.

My head is not in the sand, not by a long shot. I stay abreast of politics and gun laws. I see what is going on, but I dont get paranoid about things either. I dont look at things from a Republican/Democrat point of view.
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Posted 09 August 2010 - 07:53 PM

I am far form pranoid, but I am a realist. I have no party affiliation at all. I see the writing on the wall. If the house and senate do not turn around this fall the next agenda will be guns.  Th emore control we give then. the more power we lose. 
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Posted 09 August 2010 - 07:55 PM

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Th emore control we give then. the more power we lose.

Agreed
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Posted 09 August 2010 - 07:56 PM

ok so why are you willing to give them more? federal recognition means fed control 
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Posted 09 August 2010 - 08:06 PM

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ok so why are you willing to give them more? federal recognition means fed control

Didnt we already go over this? It doesnt need to be federal. Im starting to think you just like to hear yourself talk.  ;D
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Posted 09 August 2010 - 08:08 PM

then tell me how else it will work since states have separate laws and counties within our state have even more separte laws?
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Posted 09 August 2010 - 08:15 PM

Go back and read, Im not repeating myself. It was just a couple hours ago.  ::)
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Posted 09 August 2010 - 08:16 PM

you really gave no plan as to how to do it and keep the feds out
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Posted 09 August 2010 - 08:19 PM

Maybe not a complete, thought out plan per say, but I gave a general idea. Maybe a thread on the subject wouldnt be a bad idea. see what others besides you and I think about nationally recognized permits.
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Posted 09 August 2010 - 08:24 PM

from what I saw here most dont want permits at all
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Posted 10 August 2010 - 07:58 AM

The following states currently honor the Utah Non Resident permit: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, Wyoming


Why not more? The states can do it them selves...Not to put words in WNY's mouth but I think that is what he was talking about. No new regulations just recognitinoo of other states.

And FYI...check Mass laws b4 running across their boarder with a long gun....I think they have to be registered there....It's been a long time but I remember having to go through VT and NH to get to Maine because of some law....me being an out of state
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Posted 10 August 2010 - 08:58 AM

Yes, that is exactly what I am talking about.
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Posted 10 August 2010 - 11:39 AM

Bye the way...NYODN...came again today....lol....they are slashing DMP...8N is going from 23,000 last year to 11,000 this year...finally they seem to be seeing what I've been seeing for at least 3yrs + now.........anyone get their life time tags yet?

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Posted 18 August 2010 - 01:14 PM

I downloaded the list and was able to look up myself, coworkers, shooting and hunting buddies. Although this is public record, the compliation and posting to the web is done specifically to create victims out of legal, respectible, license holders and pistol owners. The motive is evil, and completely unrespectible.

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 08:24 PM

That's just another reason we need to eradicate yotes around here.....

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Posted 18 October 2010 - 09:33 AM

i learned about this a couple months ago myself... and i called william barclay and Darrel auburtines office... both of them PERSONALLY returned my phone call and stated their disgust for these people posting this information and are working on trying to get those record to be Private. However they said the more people complain to their Local government officials the easier it will be. so I HIGHLY suggest everyone call, e-mail, write and let them know where you stand on it and tell them they will gain a vote if they work on making these records private.  Politicians work for votes and with politics the sqeeky wheel always get the oil... so Speak up and let your politicians know!