18 replies to this topic

[biggamefish]

A friend bought a marlin 35.  Now he got a good deal on a case of 35 whelen shells.  Can he shoot these through his gun somebody said they where different and somebody said they were not.  He doesn't want to shoot them if he can't.  Any help would be great.

[Pygmy]

If his gun is a lever action Marlin it is chambered for .35 Remington, and it is not the same as the .35 Whelen.

The .35 Rem  casing is about the same length as a .30-30.  The .35 Whelen is a 30-06 case necked up to .35 caliber, a much longer and more powerful cartridge . The only similarity between the two is that they both use .358" diameter bullets. A .35 Whelen round would never fit in a .35 Rem chamber, but a .35 Rem, being a shorter cartridge, might fit in a .35 Whelen. If it did and someone fired it, the case would probably rupture with possible damage to the gun and the shooter.

I don't think Marlin has ever produced a rifle chambered in .35 Whelen.

Edited by Pygmy, 01 February 2012 - 07:44 AM.

[Grouse]

+1 on what Pygmy said.

[jhog1]

+2 mostly    I would like to ad that I have a friend that owns a  Marlin 336XLR in 35 whelen

[tughillhunter]

+3.  Not a good idea at all.

[biggamefish]

Hey thanks for the info. I will pass it along to my friend which now can't shoot the bullets that he bought. He has a case of 35 whelen for 260 if anybody wants them. Price is probably negotiable.

[Suilleabhain]

Sell the Marlin, keep the cartridges, buy a rifle in 35 Whelen

or leave the gun, take the cannoli's

[SteveMcD]

Suilleabhain, on 04 February 2012 - 10:03 AM, said:

Sell the Marlin, keep the cartridges, buy a rifle in 35 Whelen

or leave the gun, take the cannoli's

I've had my 35 Marlin for almost 40 years, back when a deer rifle could be bought for $100 or less! The 35 Rem is an excellent cartridge great for deer and bear and a bit more umpfh than a 30-30. I have taken my 35 to the range and put one bullet into another at 100 yards with no problem at all. The 35 REM. originally started out as an Israeli military cartridge.

On the other end the 35 Whelen was Colonel Whelen's answer to wanting a cartridge that provided more than the 30-06. It is a superior cartridge to the 06, but does not have the versatility of the 06. Like most "wildcats" with the 35 Whelen you be better off reloading your own.

Edited by SteveMcD, 04 February 2012 - 10:54 AM.

[Early]

Check your history....Not sure about that Israeli military comment.  I think the .35 Rem. was around before Israel was created.

[Pygmy]

Sorry Steve..You mentioned on a previous post that the .35 Rem was introduced as an Israeli military cartridge.

I don't know where you heard that, but it is  just not true.

The .35 Rem was introduced by Remington in 1906 and was first chambered in the Remington Model 8 autoloader in 1908.

Israel never existed as a  nation until 1948...

[Suilleabhain]

Is the 35 Rem a rimmed cartridge like the 30-30? I do like that Marlin, was looking at them in Fur, Fin & Feather upstate offered for $335.00 scoped, used. He had a half dozen of them

[Pygmy]

Nope..The .35 Rem is a rimless cartridge, developed in the early 1900's along with the .25 rem, .30 Rem and .32 Rem, to function well in Remington's current ( for the time) semi auto and pump guns and compete with Winchester's very successful .25-35, 30-30 and .32 Winchester special, which were HUGELY popular at the time in Winchester's famous M94  lever action.

Edited by Pygmy, 04 February 2012 - 05:18 PM.

[Pygmy]

Suilleabhain, on 04 February 2012 - 10:03 AM, said:

Sell the Marlin, keep the cartridges, buy a rifle in 35 Whelen

or leave the gun, take the cannoli's

Sully...I see you are a "Godfather" fan...

That is also one of my favorite quotes from the film... ... Clemenza was my favorite character...

Edited by Pygmy, 04 February 2012 - 05:26 PM.

[Pygmy]

jhog1, on 03 February 2012 - 03:17 PM, said:

+2 mostly I would like to ad that I have a friend that owns a  Marlin 336XLR in 35 whelen

Jhog...I  have been searching the net for info on a Marlin 336XLR in .35 Whelen.

I am not doubting your word, but I have been unable to find info on a Marlin 336 in this caliber. Let me know if you can find some info..

[SteveMcD]

I was wrong about the "originally" part. But the fact is the Israeli military liked it enough to adopt it as a machine gun cartridge. The 35 REM is a very accurate cartridge.

[Pygmy]

No doubt that it is very accurate..

I was not aware of the Israeli military interest in it, but I can certainly see the utility of the cartridge as an automatic weapon round. Short action and capable of using a heavy enough FMJ bullet to penetrate light armor..

Thanks, Steve..

[Grouse]

_{I have a Marlin 336 from the early 60's in .35 Rem with a 2X Leupold on it.  It's a great woods gun for deer and black bear.  That .35 caliber 200 grain bullet packs a lot of smack within 100 yards.  It's very accurate and seems to always cycle in the action smoothly and reliably.  I've never had a round hang up in the gun when using it.  Leave a nice two hole blood trail too, even in a black bear.}

[jhog1]

Pygmy, on 04 February 2012 - 08:58 PM, said:

Jhog...I  have been searching the net for info on a Marlin 336XLR in .35 Whelen.

I am not doubting your word, but I have been unable to find info on a Marlin 336 in this caliber. Let me know if you can find some info..

Asked my buddy about his Marlin in .35 Whelen. turns out he had it built a few years back when he moved to Colorado  to guide.

[eagle rider]

The 35 is awesome northeastern whitetail round.  It a rimless 30-30 case necked up to 35 cal and was invented as a semi-auto round in 1908 for the Remington Model 8.  Its pretty acurate upto 100 yds.  Mine is a Marlin 336 with a 2-6 Nikon on it, Its never been turned past 2x and I've anchored a lot of deer with it.  The Whelen is an entirely different round.  The brass is incompatible between the two.