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[Doc]

Grouse, on 04 March 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

Doc, how would the law be applied by a warden if a shooter was 500' from a house but shot a deer within 20 feet of the house?  The term "discharge" is interpreted to mean not only where the gun is, but also where the bullet goes.  Same applies to archery equipment.

Well, I'm no legal scholar .... lol.... but my interpretation of discharging a gun relates to the pulling of the trigger and causing the physical explosion inside the gun regardless of where the projectile winds up. As far as how the actual legal interpretation of all that goes, I suppose you would have to consult a warden or other judicial administrator. Short answer ...... I don't know.

Look I hope you are right and everything is just wonderful with this proposed legal change. But there certainly are enough questions about it so that there is no way any of it gets any of my support.

[nyantler]

"I do feel the safety aspect of this change is totally being lost on you in favor of what you have convinced yourself that you need."

Thats pretty much it... in a nut shell.. and likewise I wouldn't be starting any campaign for or against either... I would rather leave it to those that think it affects them... the law does not affect me and my opinion is it doesn't (or shouldn't) affect hunters enough to make a big stink about it...

[njg0621]

Doc, on 13 August 2010 - 05:53 AM, said:

I don't pretend to understand the distance difficulties for urban hunters. I have never even thought about hunting within 500' of somebody's house, and never will. Urban hunting is outside my idea of a quality hunt, so I guess I probably never will be concerned with whatever difficulties that are involved in such a thing.

So, I guess I don't have a proper perspective on requests to cut that distance down. I do think I understand how it might be a problem controlling urban and even suburban populations without the ability to hunker down uncomfortably close to a residence. But I also understand landowner concerns. The idea of looking over in my hedgerow and seeing some goof sitting there staking out my yard is not very appealing ..... lol. That might not be the best thing for hunter/resident relations. From purely a safety standpoint, I can't see that being much of a real issue, but again there might be a perception issue even on that point that wouldn't exactly help out hunter/landowner relations.

So what do you do with problem herds in tight urban areas. I would leave it up to local municipal control. If an urban area had a problem that was sufficient to warrant some cozy hunting situations, then perhaps they should be permitted in special cases, which would include written permission from the residents affected. If you truly have a problem herd, getting permision from residents that have experienced property damage should be no particular problem.

Even with those safeguards, I would hate to be the hunter tracking my shot deer and soming upon a group of crying hysterical children watching Bambi in the final bloody death-throes.....lol. That would be just one possible scenario of many uncomfortable situations that could arise when you are hunting on the doorstep of so many potential anti-hunters.

Doc

Just consider yourself lucky that you don't have to worry about it! Alot of people dont have that luxury!

[Doc]

njg0621, on 16 March 2012 - 02:34 PM, said:

Just consider yourself lucky that you don't have to worry about it! Alot of people dont have that luxury!

Luck has nothing to do with where I chose to live. However, I have noted that I hunt along-side of a whole lot of city folks who hunt the very same state land that I do and apparently don't consider it that much of an imposition to hop in their car and drive out here. Another great thing is that none of them feel it is necessary to set up their stand in my hedgerow, 50 yards away from my home ...... lol.

[nyantler]

njg0621, on 16 March 2012 - 02:34 PM, said:

Just consider yourself lucky that you don't have to worry about it! Alot of people dont have that luxury!

Worry about what? Hunting in my neighbors back yard? I don't see where it is remotely necessary for any hunter to have to hunt in a residential area... especially with all the access to state land... like Doc says.. there may be isolated situations where something drastic might have to be done if deer are taking over the neighborhood... but I would never move into a neighborhood with the intention it being my new hunting spot just because there are deer there... what's next?.. fishing in my neighbors fish tank because there are too many fish in it?