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NY DEC: 2013 Deer Harvest Results are In


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Hunters harvested approximately 243,550 deer during the 2013-14 hunting seasons, nearly equivalent to the statewide take last year, state Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) Commissioner Joe Martens announced today.

“Governor Cuomo’s NY Open for Fishing and Hunting Initiative offers many hunting opportunities statewide for sportsmen and sportswomen for the growing population of deer,” said Commission Martens. “Throughout the state, hunters play an essential role by helping to maintain healthy and ecologically sound deer populations.”

The 2013 deer take included approximately 128,850 antlerless deer (adult females and fawns) and about 114,700 adult bucks (1.5 years or older), both estimates being within 4 percent of the 2012 take (see table below). Hunters in the Northern Zone walked out of the woods with roughly 32,300 deer, including 19,500 adult bucks. In the Southern Zone, excluding Long Island, hunters took 208,300 deer, including about 94,200 adult bucks. To compare these harvest estimates with other past seasons, go to: http://www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/42232.html.

This year marked New York’s second Youth Deer Hunt, held over Columbus Day Weekend. During the Youth Deer Hunt, 14 and 15-year-old junior hunters could take one deer, antlered or antlerless, with a firearm when properly accompanied by a licensed and experienced adult mentor. An estimated 8,860 junior hunters participated in the Youth Deer Hunt, resulting in 1,275 deer taken (728 adult bucks and 547 antlerless deer). A photo gallery showcasing successful junior hunters is atwww.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/85926.html.

More Antlerless Deer Need to be Taken

This year’s harvest shows a continuing trend of concern to DEC deer managers. In many Wildlife Management Units (WMUs), including portions of southeastern New York and the Lake Plains region of western New York, harvest trends indicate that deer populations are too high - above levels recommended by local stakeholder groups who live, hunt or manage land in those areas. Even with very liberal opportunities for take of antlerless deer, not enough females are being taken to reduce populations to desired levels. In these areas, DEC and hunters must begin considering new ways to the increase antlerless deer take to achieve deer populations that are compatible with ecosystem health and consistent with the public’s interests.

Older Bucks Becoming a Larger Portion of Adult Buck Harvests

Hunters took a record number of bucks (approximately 55,300) aged 2.5 years or older in 2013. These older bucks, which many hunters desire, accounted for 48 percent of harvested adult bucks statewide in 2013, compared to only 33 percent (45,350) in 2000 when New York’s deer population peaked, and only 28 percent (about 33,000) in the early 1990s. In part, this is influenced by the overall size of the deer population, which in much of the state is larger than desired. Although mandatory antler restrictions in 11 WMUs in southeastern New York are a contributing factor, many New York hunters outside those areas are voluntarily choosing not to take young bucks, thereby letting these bucks get another year or two older before they are taken.

Deer harvest data are gathered from two main sources: harvest reports required of all successful hunters, and DEC staff’s examination of nearly 16,200 harvested deer at check stations and meat processors. Statewide harvest estimates are made by cross-referencing these two data sources. Much additional information about the 2013-14 deer harvests, including charts and maps describing the harvest, is available on DEC’s website at www.dec.ny.gov/outdoor/42232.html.

Governor Cuomo’s NY Open for Fishing and Hunting Initiative is an effort to improve recreational opportunities for sportsmen and sportswomen and to boost tourism activities throughout the state. This initiative includes streamlining fishing and hunting licenses, reducing license fees, and improving access for fishing and increasing hunting opportunities in New York State.

In support of this initiative, this year's budget includes $6 million in NY Works funding to support creating 50 new land and water access projects to connect hunters, anglers, bird watchers and others who enjoy the outdoors to more than 380,000 acres of existing state and easement lands. These 50 new access projects include building new boat launches, installing new hunting blinds and building new trails and parking areas. In addition, the 2014-15 budget includes $4 million to repair the state's fish hatcheries; and renews and allows expanded use of crossbows for hunting in New York State.

This year's budget also reduces short-term fishing licenses fees; increases the number of authorized statewide free fishing days to eight from two; authorizes DEC to offer 10 days of promotional prices for hunting, fishing and trapping licenses; and authorizes free Adventure Plates for new lifetime license holders, discounted Adventure Plates for existing lifetime license holders and regular fee Adventure Plates for annual license holders.

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Youd be wrong on that. Feel free to try again...

Well maybe this post will ring your bell. You are a hypocrite to the max!

 

 

 

 

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This is about as truthful and a bridge for sale in the desert.....

How does the state know the overall population of live deer and its breakdown? That is needed to make the cal more deer have to die unless you have folks filling your pockets just to say that.

They guess at over 50% of the take (call it statistically backed but it is an unknown) and claim to age enough deer at processors for these numbers.... nope, not buying.

Great to see the 40,000 yearly buck take....... how sad is that?

Maybe the youth enrollment in hunting jumped 5% too. I am willing to buy some squares for next years take results....theyve probably been assembled already anyhow

The only thing worse than this report is know folks believe it

Ok...where's your better data?

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I dont have better data but my guesses may be as accurate. BTW genius; its not my job to have the data.

 

Great point on every deer SteveB.... how about most state have an idea on population and harvest based on fact; Why dont you call and ask how many deer are in your region and where taken in your region? Most states can give you some facts in that regard. Maybe caring about deer numbers is social issue and not a deer management one.

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I dont have better data but my guesses may be as accurate. BTW genius; its not my job to have the data.

Great point on every deer SteveB.... how about most state have an idea on population and harvest based on fact; Why dont you call and ask how many deer are in your region and where taken in your region? Most states can give you some facts in that regard. Maybe caring about deer numbers is social issue and not a deer management one.

Huh? Usually when someone refutes another's data or "facts" it's because of contradictory evidence (or atleast the perception of such evidence).

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I dont have better data but my guesses may be as accurate. BTW genius; its not my job to have the data.

 

Great point on every deer SteveB.... how about most state have an idea on population and harvest based on fact; Why dont you call and ask how many deer are in your region and where taken in your region? Most states can give you some facts in that regard. Maybe caring about deer numbers is social issue and not a deer management one.

 

So you don't know any that are more accurate, or if they where, what methods are better.

No suggestions - just more telling what you think is wrong.

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More accurate than what?

 

Are there any #'s for each DMU?

Are there any carrying capacity data for DMU's?

Buck;doe ratios?

What are these #'s?

 

How do you manage without first knowing the #'s?

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More accurate than what?

Are there any #'s for each DMU?

Are there any carrying capacity data for DMU's?

Buck;doe ratios?

What are these #'s?

How do you manage without first knowing the #'s?

More accurate than nothing at the very least.

It's a Wildlife Management Unit, not Deer.

The only "real" numbers are deer take and I do not believe they have released the breakdown by unit yet.

State agencies in general care little about buck to doe ratios, only so much as they want to keep influential big money hunters happy do they attempt trophy or quality management techniques.

Population densities and Carrying capacity are not determined by quality or trophy management standards but by what ever the local CTF prioritizes (farms, highways, neighborhoods, etc).

It is not exact science trying to macro manage herds, many survey techniques and advanced algorithms are used to try to get an accurate estimate...again publish your own take numbers and we can see who has stronger data.

The OP is about deer take which should be an easy enough stat to collect as it's an automated system I used 7 times just this year probably totaling 5 minutes...it helps if people cooperate and report their harvests.

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Meat Manager.

 

Since you seem to defend the state and their techniques of deer management  maybe you can send me the #'s I asked for.

 

"It is not exact science trying to macro manage herds, many survey techniques and advanced algorithms are used to try to get an accurate estimate...again publish your own take numbers and we can see who has stronger data."

 

Again I don't have #'s I am looking for Them! So  Give me yours and we will start from there.

 

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Meat Manager.

Since you seem to defend the state and their techniques of deer management maybe you can send me the #'s I asked for.

"It is not exact science trying to macro manage herds, many survey techniques and advanced algorithms are used to try to get an accurate estimate...again publish your own take numbers and we can see who has stronger data."

Again I don't have #'s I am looking for Them! So Give me yours and we will start from there.

You are asking for numbers that either have not yet been published (wmu/regional breakdown), will not be published, or are not compiled by the state on a thread about numbers that have.

If you have better statewide take figures or methods of obtaining such figures lets hear them....when the WMU take numbers are released discuss them then. Right now we are dealing in statewide deer take numbers.

This notion that this state agency is less equipped to manage a herd statewide then you or whoever else you had in mind (since you haven't mentioned any shining beacons of deer stewardship yet) is ridiculous and only encourages people to be uncooperative and counterproductive.

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<p><p>Well maybe this post will ring your bell. You are a hypocrite to the max!

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You are asking for numbers that either have not yet been published (wmu/regional breakdown), will not be published, or are not compiled by the state on a thread about numbers that have. If you have better statewide take figures or methods of obtaining such figures lets hear them....when the WMU take numbers are released discuss them then. Right now we are dealing in statewide deer take numbers. This notion that this state agency is less equipped to manage a herd statewide then you or whoever else you had in mind (since you haven't mentioned any shining beacons of deer stewardship yet) is ridiculous and only encourages people to be uncooperative and counterproductive. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

AGAIN I don't have #'s nor do I claim to. Was just looking for the states #'s. Very Simple question.

 

I just thought if the state wanted to reduce population by a certain amount in WMU's (is that better) they wold actually have a population # to begin with and then hand out DMP's accordingly. Or is that a crazy thought?

 

I don't know where you get the idea I thought I could do it better? Maybe you can show me that.

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AGAIN I don't have #'s nor do I claim to. Was just looking for the states #'s. Very Simple question.

I just thought if the state wanted to reduce population by a certain amount in WMU's (is that better) they wold actually have a population # to begin with and then hand out DMP's accordingly. Or is that a crazy thought?

I don't know where you get the idea I thought I could do it better? Maybe you can show me that.

There is no such thing as an actual population number which is why the DEC does not release such a thing.

They get an accurate take number from cooperative hunters statewide (that is the OP here), using that and other survey methods they come up with population densities.

Then the local CTF determines the local priority factors and determine how many does should be culled (not based on buck/doe ratios or carrying capacity).

Then basically they have to multiply that number by 6.5 (since only 15% of dmps get filled) to hand out enough permits to actually take enough breeders.

The WMU breakdown will get released in some way or another soon, if nothing else the number of permits allocated per WMU divided by 6.5 tells you approximately how many does the CTF/DEC wants culled.

If you are really concerned call the DEC.

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