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For the future. The wife and I finally got our first born out today. What an experience to say the least.

The Appalachian Eagle Project in NYS started camera trapping as part of our Golden Eagle/Scavenger research the day after muzzleloader season ended - 12/23. Things were slow then suddenly one site in Delaware County had a burst of activity. These photos are mostly from Delaware. Some may be from Otsego. The bear could be a big problem as deer carcasses are scarce. Bear removing one of the two carcasses it took. Bear resting after clearing out our bait. Bald Eagle Bald and Golden Eagles together Bobcat-coyote standoff (note -the cats usually win, which is weird). Coyote

Archer Joseph 8 lbs 6 oz. Mom is doing really well,the nurses all commented on how fast she came around after the surgery.

I just looked at some of my old reloading data, and found a couple of letters that I had kind of forgotten. One was a letter from Bob Hagel, typed ( with an old fashioned typewriter) on an NRA letterhead, answering some questions that I had posed about loading for the 7x 57. It is dated Feb. 4, 1981.. The other is a letter from Finn Aagaard, answering some questions that I had about loading the .338 Win mag. It is dated April 4, 1990. Both letters are personally signed by the above gentlemen. Not STAMPED, but signed in ink. I'm wondering if the current gun scribes still take the time to do such things..

Strip steak and pineapple both grilled perfectly. Shrimp cocktail left over from last night

Congrats ! It took me 5 kids to figure out what was causing them ......

Very good! Congrats. Save $380 for the lifetime license- you have five years to buy it. About to pony up for my daughter's then save for my sons.

You have to remember that most of those landowners that border that property want it also. It may go for more than its worth or if you overbid the guy that wants it and then ask him for access to it? Better get the checkbook out. Then again you may get lucky and nobody wants or can afford the land at this time.

If the land is cheap enough, use the extra $ to buy a helicopter and just drop right onto your land Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Congratulations! May he grow strong, straight and smart. And love hunting with his Dad.

Anybody ever watch any of those game warden shows that sometimes show up on The Animal planet channel? I watch them everytime I find them. Good shows! Anyway, I can recall at least two of those where the investigation was begun because of a post on internet forums or Facebook or some form of social media. These were guys who were bragging on the internet about hunting violations (even with pictures). They never said whether the fish and game department monitored the internet sites or whether a complaint was sent to them by somebody finding these confessions on the internet. But anyways, arrests resulted. The point being, that it probably is not a very smart thing to admit to any law-breaking, publicly, on the internet. I don't want to get involved with any sort of aiding and abetting activity (lol), but I will just say, "Don't be so damn stupid".

Love pork roast in the crock pot with sour kraut . I put it in the crock pot with pepper and about half the kraut juice from one bag. let it go all day then the last 1-1/2 to 2 hrs, add the rest of the Kraut and juice. Serve it with a side of mashies with kraut over the top of them and a nice dark rye bread…..sometimes I cook it stove top in a big pot, if I plan on being home most of the day. DAMN… might have to make it tomorrow .

One change yo the menu; Lipton Onion Soup Mix was put over top of the roast right out of the bag (dry) and it was perfection! Been quite a while since we've had a pork roast. For the past 5-6 years it's always been Wegman's pork tender loin in their Club Pack, the best value in meat section. We put the 'kraut (drained) in the pan first then put a a rack in to hold the meat up over the 'kraut. 2 hours at 350 for a 3lb boneless roast. Darn good!

I was very surprised to read this post tonight, as a friend of mine who lives in Kentucky and I were discussing meeting in Ohio for the late muzzleloader season as well, but he can't get the time off from work. We were just talking about doing exactly what you are doing, and the same state forest. We did make a trip to Ohio two years ago, rented a cabin for five days and hunted the pre rut during archery season. Loved it for the most part, and can't believe I have yet to go back. I saw three bucks the first morning, and passed them all as I wasn't traveling to Ohio to shoot a 2 year old 9 point or the two smaller bucks that also came in bow range. Unfortunately I did not see another buck during the trip, but it was great to hunt a place where I knew there were really nice bucks around. Neither of us shot bucks, but both of us could have. If I remember correctly we both passed on does. We hunted Woodbury, which I believe is a bit north of where you are headed. Some of the bucks I saw in the back of pick up trucks while there were unbelievable. The guys in cabins around us that scored shot very nice bucks. Out of the five or so I saw killed, just one was under 120". I'd say one I saw was every bit of 170+. Some things I was a bit surprised by: 1. Woodbury was 90% briars and thorns, at least the areas we hunted. I had never seen anything like it. I had spent a good bit of time studying topos trying to find spots that most people might not hunt or might have to walk farther than they'd like. I then tried to find good funnels and pinch points using the satellite imagery. Didn't pan out well as I couldn't walk almost anywhere off the trails. It was insane. I have to assume that most of Ohio isn't like that, but a lot of Woodbury was. Next time I'm going to call the park and speak to a ranger if possible to ask about the terrain. Its worth your time to do so. 2. Most of the hunters I met used bait. I didn't, and really don't like the idea personally, but it is legal in Ohio. I have heard that some state land or parks in Ohio no longer allow baiting, but I have not idea how many do or don't. 3. The area of Ohio you are going to is incredibly hilly, I believe. Ups and downs, more so that flat. That was my experience as well, and it made predicting the winds tough, as currents where up and down all over. 4. If Zaleski is anything like Woodbury during the archery season I saw a ton of out of state trucks. There are many others who apparently think like you and I, or read the articles about how great the hunting is in Ohio. 5. When you find that perfect spot don't get too excited till you have been there in the dark. If you turn on the headlamp in the dark and the place lights up like a runway in different directions you will realize you the area might have already been hunted pretty hard. Guess you never know till you try, but a lot of the good trees I found had climber marks on them already. Hopefully that means that you have a good spot to hunt, and not that it means its been burned out. Won't matter for your first trip, but if you are scouting for the future just keep that in mind. If I were to go again there are some things I'd consider doing differently. The first time I had looked for places others might not want to go to, such as tougher terrain or longer walks. Many of the other guys I met focused on finding the edges of the park near private land. I privately thought this tactic was too obvious and too easy, and that everyone would be doing that. I didn't see a ton of deer trying to get back in as far as I could, but that could be simply due to the spots I chose to hang a stand. The other guys did much better using their plan. Might want to consider edges of the park. Hard to believe that everyone else isn't doing the same, but it worked for them for sure. Of course the upcoming rut might have aided their plans as the bucks were cruising. I also wouldn't be afraid to take a trail camera with me. While it is state land you can certainly get into some areas that might be worth putting a camera up to help you find the deer. Since my one and only tip to Ohio I have spoken to a few guys who hunt there yearly. They told me that the place I went (Woodbury) has been flooded by hunters over the past 10-15 years. They focus on the smaller parks to the south of Woodbury, and two of the guys mentioned Zaleski as a great place. That is why I was thinking of heading there next month. I was planning on using the trip to scout for next fall. If the weather changes and there I snow on the ground, I may end up going by myself anyway as the fresh snow would really help me prepare for a trip next fall. Your post here has got me thinking about it again, and that is not a good thing...going to have to come up with a good enough reason for my wife to approve... I wish you the best of luck, and I think you will have a great time. If you go I'd love to hear how it went and what you thought if you would not mind. Like you said I wouldn't ask for your hunting spots, just some ideas on the terrain, deer you saw, hunting pressure, etc. I'm 45 and not getting younger, I need to start taking these trips yearly before I get too old! Merry Christmas!

Anybody get invited to this: Thank you for registering for the “Deer and Deer Management in New York State” webinar series taking place on Wednesday, January 20 th , and Wednesday, January 27 th, from 7:00-8:15 pm. Complete details on how to connect to the webinars will be emailed to you at least 5 days in advance of the first webinar. Please note that a high-speed internet connection such as LAN, DSL, satellite, or cable is needed to view the webinars. Phone modems cannot effectively transmit data. While you are welcome to participate in the webinars from the comfort of your own home, we encourage you to join other interested attendees at one of 3 on-site viewing locations hosted by Cornell Cooperative Extension: Cayuga County, Aurora, NY – Wells College, Room 212 Zabriskie Hall Seneca County, Waterloo, NY – Seneca County CCE Office - 308 Main Street Shop Centre Tompkins County, Trumansburg, NY – Village of Trumansburg Office, 56 E. Main St. http://www.dec.ny.gov/press/103053.html

Franks is a mile from my house, & my wives cousin makes & puts together the beefs at the Bar Bill ! Does anyone here remember Bailo's beef on Bailey Ave in buffalo yrs. ago ?

Why would one not be willing to use a .223 for deer, but have no problem using an arrow. Now granted, the .223 would not be my first choice, but it is just as effective as any arrow for killing a deer... like an arrow, shot placement is the key... not a lot of room for error... but, we're talking about KILLING a deer here.. not splitting the atom.

Just pick a more suitable bullet construct. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ok, I read your responses and I wish to add my feelings to them. Wolf123 , That was so funny what happened to you with this doe that you shot behind the shoulder. I did chuckle on this hunting story. Thanks . Pulled (BOTH) shots. No shots were pulled from my memory. I aimed good each time and slowly pulled the trigger till the muzzle loader discharged on both of these shots.Remember the second shot was off of a tree rest. I wanted deer meat for the freezer. FastEddie, I totally agree with you on the 4 foot hit thing, yes I did over distance it. what was behind this statement was that I wanted to give the reader to think (why) was the aim point and actual hit so far apart ??? The statement of the military training I wrote was to say to the reader that I did have the abilities to shoot and handle a weapon correctly .. And yes ,the iron deposits in this area had to be excessive because other hunters in this area that I talked too, have had the same compass problems. These were cold shoulder remarks you made. you were not there , I was and that,s what happened. Every time I tell this story, I always get some comments back of like I saw a UFO or something. I did write at the beginning of this hunting story that what you were going to read was a bazaar event that took place to a fellow hunter. Look guys , have you not had bazaar incidents happen to you in your life that maybe you are too afraid to tell anybody about it, That they might look at you and say,.. You been eating mushrooms again. Ha Ha . I understand, but this incident took place and telling this story, I am sticking my neck out on the chopping block. And you can tell I do bleed afterwards for doing it. Still I give my deepest respects to all you guys that responded with your views no matter what, A fellow hunter, Froggy

I think his Papa K is taking care of that . Thanks for all the support guys and gals ,we both just got done napping and I came down to get food ,IL share these with her shortly.

Mine still have lots of greens and tons of turnips left...picked some for dinner...the greens 're-grew in the warm weather we had.

FHTTEUS ( Funny how these threads end up sometimes.)

There is a disclaimer on the DEC page stating that in 2016 "homework" will be required prior to attending hunters ed classes. I am not sure how that is going to affect things now that we are in 2016. My son and I both took the PA hunters ed class: https://www.hunter-ed.com/pennsylvania/?gclid=CKrFi8_Pi8oCFckWHwodZmsJCg You read through the material, takes about 6 hours. take a few quizes on each section and then take a final exam of 65 questions. You can take the final as many times as you need to pass. Once you pass you pay the $19 and change... print out a temporary certificate good for 30 days. We took our certificate to gander mountain and got our hunting license right there. We got our laminated credit card sized certificate a week later.

I don't know that it isn't for the general public. I was on copy of an email that originated with the Seneca County Federation of Sportsman's Clubs. Here's what came attached: Deer and Deer Management in New York State - webinar series promotional final.pdf

To use your words....."I love you man!!!!!".... To have Hagel's data on my favorite 7x57 is great, I hope you can post it or pm me, I'd love to hear what he had to say. But to HAVE A LETTER PERSONALLY FROM FINN AAGAARD!!, that is so awsome I can't believe it, and he was a very humble man. I have all his books, some multiple copies, as well as Berit's remake of his Aagaard's Africa. You are a very blessed man. Keep them safe and read them often, they don't make humble, authoritative writers like them anymore.

Welcome to the asylum!

Some people are into wine. I prefer good beer. Nearing 2500 different beers tried. Got into trading with out of staters for stuff we can't get here and vice versa. Only usually a couple at a time. I could stand to lose about 10-12 beer pounds lol. Guinness and Stella Artois are two of my least favorites. Some great local breweries putting some good beer out. Good to see.

Welcome to Hunting NY !

Tonight's beverage coming from Vermont from Long Trail Brewing co.

. I have and it's the best of the hard root beers out there. Spot on to A & W I thought got. Coney Island has one too but too medicine like. I did make a float and it was good. For awhile places had a waiting list for NYFRB. Buddy sold 14 cases in 3.5 hours when it was hot. Now you can find it everywhere. They make a 10% and 19% version too Only available at brewery though.

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Maybe if there was actually a place for NYC folks to hunt dove, you might get more of a response. Most hunters that I know who reside in the city are already struggling to learn the ropes for species they can easily access within reasonable distances, such as deer and squirrel. X-Calibur Lighting Systems http://facebook.com/XCaliburLightingSystems

Hey Lamont...ya big dummy

I'm pretty sure you're right that Bubba was referring to NYBA... and because of NYBA I agree with what Bubba said... I'm not willing to go as far as saying all bow hunters are selfish and would like to have the hunting season all to themselves... but I will say that my experiences with the NYBA as a past member and business associate left a sour taste for the organization and If you were someone that looked at them as representing all NY bow hunters, your taste would be sour for bow hunters in general. But they are only 2000 of 200,000 bow hunters in NY... and being a bow hunter myself I know that there are no more "selfish" bow hunters than there are gun hunters... no group has exclusive claim on that title.

THIS IS THE BIG ONE 'LIZABETH!

The warnings about Obama and his anti-gun goals have been out there since he first announced his run for POTUS in 2007. We get to these critical points in America because people fail to believe the predictions of the future that are based on obvious ideology. How do we get to these points in this country? By letting these issues go unchallenged until it's too late. After Obama is done ripping up the 2nd Amendment, Hillary will rip up the entire Constitution. The future is easily predicted from there, but deniers are in the majority right now.

Lots of folks using AR's for predators these days. People use M1 Garands and M1A's too. All bolt actions are adaptations of old military Mausers. Military rifles have always morphed into the hunting fields. There is no functional difference between an AR and a Remington 7400. Besides, an AR can not only hunt, it can be a lot more effective in other conditions where your lever gun will fall far short. The 2nd Amendment wasn't written to protect deer hunting.

The whole anti gun/ I don't think you need a certain fire arm, is more than kinda pompous.

To tell someone they are wasting time and effort to do what they would like to do, just because its not the way you choose to do things is kinda pompus, dont you think?

Bow Hunters don't get the woods to themselves, so his argument is impotent. The fact most 'bow' hunters also use other implements seems to have passed this chap by.

Neither. You'll want to pick up one of those Mossy oaksSent from my LGL16C using Tapatalk

I fish 3-4 days a week. My New Years resolution is to fish more this year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

A few pictures are worth a thousand words. 9' 2" wingspan, 3 HP 1.8 cu in 4-stroke Hemi engine THE BUILD THREAD Some video clips of a few of the engines that I use.

The letter from Hagel was typed with an old non electric typewriter..Every few letters there is one higher and/or fainter than the others. Aagaard's letter was typed with an electric, but he hand wrote his return address on the envelope...Aagaard, Rt 9 Box 33B, Llano, TX 78643.

There are some bow hunters that feel the way the writer stated but to include all is BS . Plus the jerk wants to divide the hunting community by alienating bowhunters with the cross-bow , Ml and gun hunters . The guy has to be too stupid to not know that many of us hunt with 2 , 3 or all of the implements !

Deerthug hunts over that way.... Maybe he should pay this dude a visit and bring some NYC "friends" along.

Thanks for most of the replies guys. Rob, not just noticed, trying to counter as I am a new bowhunter and not afraid to admit I don't know everythng. Probably been outside more than you, and I definitely have better manners.

It sickens me to reply to your posts, but this one is real easy. If the government can restrict people on some list from buying guns, they will see to it that anyone they don't want to own one is put on the list. It's that simple. When the law allows people to contest being on the list, prior to being put on it, allowing Constitutional due process, then maybe it would legal. What the dumbass Democrats want is not legal. It's tyranny. Get it? And since you have asked, I'll tell you. The Democrats are the REAL danger to America!

If thats what you want to take from it. Legal light is half hour before sunrise, no? I wasn't looking at my watch and don't know the listed time of sunrise for that day, but the sun was over the ridge within the half hour. If you're concerned, call the authorities, tell them to come and get me.