In response to how to manage the herd I don't think there is one. I have some time on my hands and throw my 2 cents in but I respect every ones perspective, that said here is what I think. There are too many variables to managing a herd, you just can't do it. I'll take my place for example. Big chunks of property around me, I have 140 acres. We all know we need to shoot doe but not many are taken. Roughly 1500 acres around me, mine and neighbors combined. I think we shot 8 Doe. Is that 8 too many or 8 too short? We shot 19 buck. Who is too say what is perfect. Land next door had 8 -10 hunters come in from out of state and hunt horns for 4 days then leave for the season. How do you manage that. They will not shoot Doe, those get taken at home. Land behind me about 400 acres is hunted by 5 people thats it. My neighbor up the road 300 acres shoots 1 buck per year, has 4 other people in for first three days then he shuts it down. My camp shot 10 deer 2 Doe 8 Bucks, he gave me crap about going out at muzzy season and the Holiday hunt. We can bitch to each other cause we are good friends but I said we have 4 families that love venison so 11 deer is ok to take. His take leave the deer alone loves to see them out in the woods and are pressured too much. I get that and agree with it. But he also walks his dog every morning through the same woods that get hunted. Isn't he pressuring them also by spooking them on his walk. I'm going to turn 62 this April. Yes I have a hit list of bucks that I would like to shoot every year. I have some really nice gun bucks over trhe years and one Pope and young bow buck. Opening day I shot a typical 6 point my head was not in the right place and I took that buck. How do you manage that? How do you manage the herd.......is it the moment you pull the trigger, could be. I believe it is, I have some hunters that come up here. I ask please try to take a better buck then your last. It doesn't work. Time constraints put pressure on them and they want venison so some young bucks get shot. I did it this year but time was not an issue. I think you can argue on and on about this and there is no answer. I saw someone post on another site that they were happy to fill thee Doe tags in one afternoon sit. You shoot them long range they don't move. To me that is greedy not hunting but killing. Then again he may have an army to feed back at home. You just can't put your finger on it!