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I do not know how mankind ever survived in the woods before high power magnum rounds existed. Pioneers and mountain men shoot a lot of game with 45 caliber round balls and funny thing the crttters died. I guess they morphed into super animals that it takes a 300 win mag to kill a deer (without 10 rounds) A lot have fallen into the bigger better faster mind set. My cousin hunts exclusively with a 243 with remington corelokt 100 grain bullets and had shot a lot of deer with it with it and a couple medium sized black bears. No problem with killing power or trailing. As stated shot placement is critical. But in my books it is with any round.

I'm sitting by the fire minding my own business when all of a sudden I hear a snort. I look up abd see a doe at about 15 yards in my front lawn. I think I found my new hunting spot lol

300 win mag get it over with...... no debate! yea a little big but no guessing.

That happened to me last month at camp my wife was in laying the kids down for bed this deer ran around for 15 plus minutes snorting I told her listen to the deer she said in a million years she never would have thought that was a deer. Isn't it cool when stuff like that happens when your sitting around relaxing

I am giving up my lease due to having some closer areas to hunt and my fil having health issues. It is in sodus wayne co. If you want the owners info, pm me fast. Hes a great owner and I can fill you in on the movements. Ive killed does and a very old buck there. Relatively low pressure hunting in area. Its 35 acres or so for 600.

I told him the tomato plants were for me but he didn't care.

Nope...Use whatever works for you... Some hunters prefer an exit hole...That's not saying that they are right and you are wrong. Probably you all have similar kill/recovery rates, assuming good shot placement. Shoot 'em in the ribs and they are not going far, regardless of what you shoot 'em with. When I hear stories of deer being shot in the heart or lungs with any bullet and going hundreds of yards is when I start calling BS...

Recent video of big 10 pointer in NH. This thing looks like it belongs out west !! PICT0098.AVI

I use a Bushnell scope with the 600DOA reticle ,center cross is for 100 yards , has a line for 50 yards and lines up to 600 . I have only shot it 300 yards and it is scary accurate .

Define "better". More dead? Unless a hunter is planning to shoot much further than the OP has suggested the difference in negligible in wind drift. You're only talking about an inch +/- in drift between the two at 300 yards with a 10mph crosswind. Muzzle energy isn't enough to worry about either on any deer walking in NYS.

My deer rifles in 7mm-08. .308. and .30-06 are all hitting 2" high at 100 yards. That puts them on at 200 yards and about 4" low at 300 yards. No hold over or holding low on anything if it's within 300 yards. That keeps things simple.

Nope.... But , 150 grain in my 300 is what I shoot and it has yet to leave the other side of the deer.. Wanna argue about it.. lol

That's one way to get it waxed thoroughly,lol My BIL had a string jump off the cam and when he took it to the shop, they just put it back on like it was something common and sent him on his way at no charge. I'd be scared if that ever happened to my rig.

How much shooting have you done with a .243? Ignorance is no excuse.............. The .243 has been used on deer, antelope etc since its introduction in 1955 with great success well beyond 250 yards. I don't have much experience with the 243 but have a few friends that have killed truck loads of deer and antelope with it and maybe a moose or elk too. Although I have killed less than 10 deer with it and only a couple over 200 yards it has killed like a lightning bolt. Here is a much viewed picture of an 80gr Barnes TTSX that was recovered from a roast after traveling the length of a adult doe in PA at 235 yards. The only reason she went 15' was that was the bullet energy! And this buck was shot with (yup, same bullet) at about 200 or 210 yards. Different year but also PA............

But the OP is asking about using this cartridge at ranges of 200 to 250 yards. IMO, that is where the .243 begins to become an iffy proposition. Even the best bullets may not perform adequately at that range in a .243, leaving much to be desired in energy and expansion. The velocity at that range is reduced enough to cause me to lack confidence in that round. If it were my choice, I would select a different rifle for the job.

I have that reticle on my Browning Gold Shotty. Absolutely, hands down my favorite reticle for deer hunting. I love it. I wish there were more scopes that had it as an option.

Haha I've considered turning the back lawn into a food plot. But I doubt my parents would be happy with that

living where i hunt, i had to come up with a rule of no shooting deer on the lawn or the guys would never get off the porch.

No fun, BTDT..............................lets debate the 6mm Remington instead.

Video is great but they are just passing by. Not knocking it but you want that buck to have a licking branch and to tear up the scrape. I don't know what you are accomplishing here. You can have a dominate buck place a scrape 20 yards from there and you won't see boo. I think its great you getting out there but way too early.

Hey Red, I will be hunting just north of Franklinville in Machias, Tug Hill Rd. area. My friend has property there and have been going there for several years. Its great area and lots of nice deer and some bear in the mix too. Good luck hunting and nice pics!!

Curious ---- Do the Amish swear when they hit their thumb with a hammer ?

Nice pics Red. Looks like a lot of activity. Good luck.

Had venison dogs made with cheese and Jalapenos on Thursday after hockey. Grilled in the parking lot, tailgating with some buds. Oh yes there were plenty of cold ones We do this 2-3 times during the summer. There are about 5-6 guys I play hockey with that are hunters so the stories never end! Great bunch of guys all 50+ years old and still kicking butt on the ice! Had the dogs made at Bond's in Springville, they are great!

I would look into freezing for at least 30 days, I remember reading somewhere that freezing meat for 30 days will kill some of the bad guys that could be it the raw meat. Just a thought. I often add some liquid smoke to the crock pot for the flavor but there is nothing like a good bark on a venison roast.

It really doesn't matter who came up with the idea. I am convinced that if you bury the electorate under enough volumes of data, the results will actually be opposite of what you are trying to achieve. I am not against guiding people into the political process, but once there, they have to show at least a minimum of native intelligence toward making informed decisions. I do not want to condition people to letting others do all their thinking for them. There is a bit too much of that already.

I didn't feel like reading all 8 pages, but Chief- I disagree with the statement about the master baiters having a dozen wall hangers. I think it is more likely that the master baiters are the same ones that shoot the 1st spike (or multiple on their family member's tags) and then complain that there aren't any big bucks around. Doubtful they have even one legitimate wall hanger although I do believe that any hunter regardless of ability will get a random dumb luck chance at a monster one time by accident in their hunting career.

I'm not an "expert" but the trick is to zero your rifle to be about 1.5 to 2 inches high at 100 yards. Your centerfire rifle is a an extremely capable weapon and can be made to shoot very flat deviating no more than 1.5 or 2 inches from muzzle to over 200 yards out. If you are using any cartridge in the 30-06 family, 308 family or any other high performance flat shooting high velocity round there is no reason to not zero your rifle under 200 yards. A 200 yard "true zero" or BZ0 "battle sight zero" will result in your bullet approximately doing the following (assuming you have a scope mounted 1.5 inches above the centerline of the muzzle, with iron sight things are slightly different.) Bullet crosses zero at about 40 or 50 yards ...... (this is the "near" zero or "rising" zero, not to be confused with the true zero or BZ0) Bullet rises to maximum of about 1.5 inches high at 100 yards Bullet Passes through zero again 200 yards Bullet will be about 3 inches below zero at about 250 yards. Hence you can hold dead on out to about 250 yards and not give up an significant capability at short ranges. For slower cartridges like the 30-30 Winchester if you sight in 3 inches high at 100 yards your BZ0 or true zero will be at about 150 yards. You might be more comforatle with a 30-30 having a zero at rue zero at 100 or 125 yards so you bullet deviation is less at various ranges. It will take a little trial and error and firing a few groups to get the confidence in your gun and load. Pick up good book on rifle shooting accuracy for hunters, there are quite a few good ones out there. Wayne Van Zwoll's Hunter's Guide to Accurate Shooting: How To Hit What You'Re Aiming At In Any Situation. Is a favorite of mine. The bullet drop becomes more pronounced over 250 yards. Now we are talking about long range shooting and knowledge of your bullet's path is more important. There are fancy reticles and sighting software but it can be kept simple and "foolproof" without the added stuff. If a little common sense and knowledge of the external ballistics of your cartridge are applied, an ordinary practiced rifleman can be deadly to 400 yards (not necessarily advocating taking long shorts). Even hunting in forested areas you might have some longer range opportunities at or beyond 100 yards near a beaver meadow or a clear cut. Sighting in this way gives you some respectable capability without giving up anything short-range-wise.

Henry Lever Action Octagon Rifle - Frontier Model. I simply wanted one to shoot/plink so I got one in 22LR so a day of fun at the range doesn't cost me an arm and a leg. Now if only I can find some 22 ammo...

Had this last week. Wild turkey( the monarch bird I've been hunting for years) rubbed with Bearman dry rub, was marinated in oj and Italian dressing then wrapped in bacon over pecan chips on the smoker. Nice Belgian beer to go with it

Hope to see you soon

Ripper is a stud!

I'm really hoping the little guy finds a good hiding spot in November...