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3 hours ago, wolc123 said:
Most likely not all on that one 60 acre piece. Deer wise up real quick, after you start whittling down their numbers. That’s the key to their survival. Two deer a year seems reasonable.
Assuming an average yield of 50 lbs edible per deer, that works out to $ 30 per pound, just to cover the $ 3k in property taxes.
That sounds very expensive. You could probably buy Wagu fillet mignonette or Alaskan king crab cheaper than that. I always shoot for $ 1.00 per pound on my venison, including most input costs.
I don’t consider property taxes on input costs though, because I need elbow room anyhow. I just consider stuff like hunting license, ammo, fertilizer, fuel, and herbicide for food plots (I usually get free seed). I also don’t consider equipment costs, because I need that for property maintenance and gardening anyhow.
It’s about the hunt not the price of the meat .. let’s face it , factor in license , guns, clothes etc and it’s an expensive meat .
Like fishing .boat , Rods and reels , fuel, etc
I don’t look at it in dollars and cents
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3 hours ago, grampy said:
Three legs and definitely a doe.
Don’t u see balls ??
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3 hours ago, wolc123 said:
How many tags did you fill on that 60 acres last year ?
Only two but I could have filled all 6 ..
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4 hours ago, hunter said:
Lube, I think you're over committed to this property. First I think prices have come down since two years ago. More important you aren't considering all your sweat equity your giving away for free. I would think for 3K a year you could finance a smaller parcel that would suit your needs and you would own it. You might have to travel a bit to it but there's nothing like owning your own land. Good luck.
Yea I’m spoiled because this is so close …I have a few other smaller pcs I hunt but this is the only larger pc I have to myself .
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12 hours ago, suburbanfarmer said:
He could have put gold nuggets for driveway but the value of 60 acres cant be $320k unless its prime development real estate
Ha yea this is far from that , it’s in the country , no gas , water , cable , sewer etc
It can’t be subdivided due to lack of frontage ..
I think he overpaid but … there is nothing around here for less with that kind of acreage
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1 hour ago, knehrke said:
Land prices be crazy! It's all location, right? And if it's mostly tillable, that increases its value. If the guy paid $270K for it two years ago, he's not going to want to take a loss.
So, to point: it's never great to lose land, but it sounds like you've only been hunting there for two years. What about properties you hunted previously? And 3K a year for 60 acres isn't totally outrageous for a prime lease, but it's high. If you were willing to pay that much, you could likely find bunches of options.
Continuity is nice, but I'd take a good, long look around before proposing your solution.
Yea this is in the fingerlakes and you Will not find 60 acres for less.. at least I’ve not seen it .
I wouldn’t even call it prime farm land , it was planted at one time but hasn’t been for years .
There’s a 22 acre of here I liked that again had very little woods but boarders farm ag fields ..
130k , and they don’t last long,
You get people from the city or New Jersey and a couple guys that want hunt land , that price is nothing !
The days of buying land for 2k and acre or even 3k don’t exist .. at least not around me
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4 hours ago, landtracdeerhunter said:
Quote, " He isn't going to build or do anything with it.."
Original intention was he WAS planing on building a house on it .. plans changed and now he doesn’t have any plans and that’s why he’s thinking of selling
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3 hours ago, wolc123 said:
Right you are, I was using the pre-Bidenflation cost. It looks like a 6 day, guided, est 85% success, Newfoundland moose hunt is up to $ 6k now.
Even with that inflated cost, Luber would still be ahead, when it comes to cost per pound. ($ 6k for 500 lbs of moose meat compared to $3k for 100 lbs of whitetail meat.).
He’d be getting 5x the (better) meat at just double the cost.
That’s if I only kill one deer there , I have 5 or 6 tags
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Looking for a hood processor in the fingerlakes area
The place I used to use is now 150 plus any extra cuts $$
Seems high
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Would offering to pay the taxes of 3k be fair ?? Or is that a lot for 60 acres
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45 minutes ago, New York Hillbilly said:
I would rest easy if I were you. Hunt and enjoy it as long as you can until it sells if he is agreeable. I can't see how anyone could possibly have 320k into 60 acres of land unless it was heavily developed into lots complete with access to things like public water and sewer. My guess is you will be hunting it for a long time. I doubt like hell anyone is going to pay that kind of money for 60 acres. Pipe dreams!
He paid 270 for it 2 yrs ago then built a pole barn on it
thing is , people are paying stupid money for land ,, 4 or 5 guys get together or guy from New Jersey or NYC come to the fingerlakes ..
they have money
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Would 3k be too much to pay for a lease to him ? That’s the property tax amount
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2 hours ago, landtracdeerhunter said:
320 K sounds like a lot of money for 60 acres. Maybe if theirs road frontage for lots. Anyways , let's talk numbers: Federal and State income tax 33 percent, 106 K; Real Estate Sales Company, 4 percent, 13K; Lawyer 3 K. Up to 122K already gone. Minus other expenses. 190K left. Where are they going to live? Doubt if that is enough for even a small ranch home.
If the place is paid for. Where are they going to live for what they pay in taxes on that property? Knowhere ! Use that and just maybe some common sense might just kick in. Good luck.
??? There isn’t road frontage for lots .. it’s just vacant land , no houses ..he bought the land two years ago ..not sure he would pay taxes on the sale ??
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I’m upset but I get it,,,I have exclusive on 60 acres close to my house.. I post it and maintain the property , mow , brush hog etc
Also work for free whenever he calls at the stop if a hat …moving stuff , fixing stuff , working on their cars etc.
He now tells me he may want to sell.. he isn’t ever going to build or do anything with it etc.
Problem is he has about 320k into it.
Is mostly open land boardered by ag fields
Maybe 15 acres woods.. I hunt it alone.
I know he’s going to want minimum of what he has into it ..
Im going to offer to find a farmer to lease the tillable and I’ll pay the taxes of (3k) a yr…
But I doubt that’s enough….sucks but it’s not mine
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11 hours ago, Hock3y24 said:
Id grind the whole thing
Thought about slicing it thin like steakums
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4 hours ago, wolc123 said:
How many days did it hang after you killed it until you froze it ?
7
Same as I always have
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I’ve been hunting since I was 14 and I’m 64 now
This 8 point in shot last year is tougher than show leather
I hung it and everything the way I always have .
Even the backstraps are tough .
Ive used tenderizer etc doesn’t matter
If I slice them 1/8” thick and make cheese steak subs will that make them easier to chew
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13 hours ago, New York Hillbilly said:
Grampy
I'm reading the above form that says that a physician must sign that the applicant has a disability that makes them incapable of drawing, holding, etc. a legal longbow. Is there another form that now identifies diabetes, hypertension, etc as qualifying disabilities?
I didn’t have a Dr sign mine
where it said “ drs signature “ I put “ see attached”
and attached a copy of my office visit stating I had rotor cuff inpingment
emailed it and had the permit in less than an hour
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I sent mine via email and had the permit the same day , like 45 minutes later
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I usually hang mine out in my gazebo a day or so and then just store in a big plastic bin with sent wafers
Other guys just seem to toss into the back of the truck ..
Others spray down everytime they go out etc …
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1 hour ago, fasteddie said:
Well , I am 82 years old and don't have any shoulder problems so I am SOL for this .
Hey I think u just hurt your shoulder today , best go see your Dr and get the note signed
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8 hours ago, grampy said:
I too sent in the form and received a permit to use an unmodified crossbow in regular archery season. Mine is permanent and good for five years.
I messed up because I checked the box “ temporary “
But they said if it turn into permanent they can reissue next year
maybe by then they will open it for everyone .
I wish they would give me a permit to use rifle during bow
I still have a hard time pulling back the crossbow plus I could get out before it gets real cold .. I’m getting soft in my old age
the Dr tells me this is a rotor cuff impingement .. I’m icing it and doing the exercises but I don’t see any improvement
they want me to take meloxicam but I’m reading the side effects and it doesn’t sound good
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On 8/23/2023 at 8:11 AM, escpen said:
That permit is to allow hunters "with a permanent physical disability (verified by a licensed physician) to use a crossbow equipped with a breath-tube apparatus for releasing the bowstring".
Nope … it’s for people with an injury that can’t pull back a bow , the permit says right on it “ for use with an UNmodified crossbow to be used during regular bow
I applied for mine online and received it in less than an hour
Mine is temporary unless my shoulder doesn’t heal, then can be made permanent
Maybe there is one for cases like you described too ???
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