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Did you actually see where it was denned up under the tree? With this warm winter I would guess a few will be out and about much earlier then normal
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1 hour ago, airedale said:
The only recognition that counts for the hunting I do is from myself, if I think I did a good-skillful job I am happy. If I screw up there will be no bigger critic than myself. I do not give a Rat's ass what somebody else thinks of my kind of hunting and of any game I may or may not take and I certainly will not waste my time on a message board arguing about it.
Al
Exactly. My recognition gets decided in the woods. I will only hunt the best of the best in my hunting areas and my recognition comes from if I succeed at that challenge or not. Of course when one takes the top of the species they are going to get the congrats from friends and family but when one completes that feat on a regular basis they will receive the negative recognition from some hunters but we all know where that comes from. Comes with the territory.
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57 minutes ago, airedale said:
Watched the local weather out of Syracuse this morning, not surprised but I ain't going to complain too much, at least around my neck of the woods we have not had the usual feet of snow.
Just watched the Watertown forecast and it’s 30-40’s next 10 days with no snow and sunshine. Sucks for ice fishing but no complaints here. Great being able to get some work done on the big expansion of the deer pens in the winter months.
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12 minutes ago, Lawdwaz said:
lol if me or any other pot stirring POS said this the ban hammer would have come down PDQ. And of course I’m not suggesting that Grouse gets the boot anyway, anyhow I think it’s just funny that he said it.
Wait……maybe his account has been hacked?!?!
If anyone on this site missed the first crap show that went down when this place imploded they didn’t spend a lot of time on this site anyways. Plus it’s obvious that the only active mod on this site is Ok with people on here calling other members names and the personal attacks. Getting old. We are down to what 10 daily active posters on this site? Clock is ticking for sure.
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Talk about Flashbacks. Amazing.
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1 hour ago, landtracdeerhunter said:
A pat on the back doesn't hurt.
And the demise of hunting is not coming because people want the biggest and the best of the species they can get. Exactly the reason Ny hunters now take more 2 year olds then they do yearlings. Many older hunters want the challenges and the rewards of taking older bucks. And spend millions of $$$ to achieve those rewards. Hunting is changing in many different ways.
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12 minutes ago, Doc said:
I do have to say that some of the trail camera photos hear show that the cameras are not really a secret. The pictures of deer noses kind of show that. Also, I have seen some pictures that show the deer running away. In fact, those are the picture that prompted me to ask the question. I know that too much human pressure will change deer patterns. The question is, are these cameras just another form of "pressure"?
In addition to the cameras, there are also the visits to monitor the cameras by the hunter. Especially when the cameras are inside of bedding areas. Too many visits to bedding areas, and pretty soon they no longer are bedding areas.
I don't know the answer, but it seems to be a reasonable question.
No doubt they notice the camera at times but I would guess the scare comes like you say the scent that the hunters leave messing with the cameras. I use the new ones with pics directly to the phone for the most part so leave little scent and have not noticed any changes in deer behavior for the most part.
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20 minutes ago, wolc123 said:
Our daughter’s boyfriend has expressed some interest, maybe grandkids some day. Preparing some tasty meals with the meat is always a good way to generate interest.
The overemphasis on big antlers has done more harm than anything else, in my humble opinion. Nobody needs that, but we all got to eat.
I find it amusing the so called argument about meat against big antlers. Now you look at these two bucks for example. Who got more meat doing the same thing. My buddies son’s 110 pounder or my 189 pounder? You think Ny state now kills more 2-3 year olds instead of yearlings of the past because they just get more meat? Not at all. They want larger antlers and they get more meat right along with the package. Times have changed like it or not. It’s not good that we are losing hunters and not gaining but as the numbers show hunters want bigger mature deer with larger headgear and the spend millions of dollars on every aspect of hunting to reach that goal. Lock down land, food plots, better equipment and the list goes on.
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5 minutes ago, grampy said:
It's ALL just hunting!
From the hunter who just wants to put any deer in their freezer. To one that passes multiple bucks, looking for "the one" or anything in between. We are all individuals. With different asperations and goals. Different priorities, and amounts of time, that can be given to hunting. One should never feel superior, or lesser, because of what they choose to hunt!! And one should NEVER as a sportsman, put themselves above, anyone else because of how they choose to hunt!! It's as simple as that. It does not have to be a big argument. Or a condemnation of others, because they hunt a different way, or hold a different view.
I stayed out of the thread that was closed. I don't want to start pointing fingers here either. But it was closed because of one person. The detriment of that thread was not the thread itself. But someone with a bigger opinion of themself than the opinion of those participating in that thread.
Once again you’re all wet. I made the statement that nobody will know the feeling of picking out a mature whitetail buck of 120-30 inches and hunting only that buck until harvest, passing every other buck of lesser size. Fact. What others read between the lines and throws their stupid little comments like it’s bragging or better then someone else well that’s just the same people’s weakness showing ones again. Again if one thinks that does not take another level to achieve then again shows what they don’t know.regardless of who does it just like the guy the original post was started about. It’s not for everyone but it’s my choice like 1000’s of other hunters I could give two shits how they enjoy shooting little bucks for whatever their reason but just because after 50 years of shooting inferior bucks and need a challenge when I hit the woods now that changes nothing except my way of hunting. And usually when some see the results they…same ones over and over…they call it bragging or being above others. Again, just showing their weakness.
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1 hour ago, Lawdwaz said:
I’m sure I passed 20+ bucks (within killing range of the weapon in my hands at that time) and I’m no better for it. Lol
So much depends on deer density numbers, proximity to hunting grounds, amount of time said hunter has to devote to this and on and on.
What animal and how a hunter chooses to fulfill his desire's is a personal matter.
True words. Some years there is only 1 target buck that fits the bill and it’s that or nothing. Last year it was 2 bucks and I missed out. The easy part is to see and pass 15-20 other bucks a year. The hard part is to find the 120-30 mature bucks and hunt just them until harvest or bust. That’s the real challenge. Total different animals. The word to Hunt might be one word and meaning but there sure is different challenges that totally change the game. After 50 plus years I have felt all there is to feel in hunting and one will never feel that feeling until they complete the biggest challenge possible. Fact.
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I have a 2019 lifted with 37’s and just at 30 grand with no issues yet knock on wood but my nephew has a 17 and he has an issue when he puts his in 4 wheel auto but I’m not sure that’s not an actuator problem more then a tranny issue. Change out your filters and tranny fluid and see what things look like there. There has been issues with the 1500’s in the tranny dept.
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4 hours ago, Lawdwaz said:
Your statement in the other locked thread:
"But one will never feel what the word Hunting” really means until one finds, scouts, learns and hunts down one single mature whitetail buck one on one and go until they kill that one buck or bust."
I think you're embellishing your skills a bit. One buck and only ONE buck is your target? Any of the other lesser bucks (lesser by just a skootch) cruise by are going to get killed, just that one buck that you've found, scouted, learned and are hunting?
You can talk the talk of course about that ONE buck after he hits the dirt but until he hits the dirt he's one of a handful on your radar, yea? (One buck or bust)
Hopefully fasteddie doesn't pull the plug on this Q&A thread.
I will answer your question once and only once. It’s always the same old few that put words into my posts that are not even said and we all know there is a reason for that. If you would have read the posts…. And I showed you the pictures so you can see the caliber of bucks involved. All like the one I harvested were in the high 120’s to 30 maybe so really none of the 3 this year were lesser. Although an easy 15-20 lesser bucks were passed. I locate and hunt the biggest bucks my area has to offer for that season and any lesser buck will not do. Period. It’s a target buck or larger of course if one happens to drift thru as all hunters know the rut will move them in and move them out. You see the date on the camera picture when I first found the buck I harvested and I never killed that deer until the end of bow season. I have over 40 trail cameras and 17 tree stands thru out my hunting area on the park and the farm. I had pictures of those bucks in probably a 3 mile area from the Hogsback to the bottom of Highbanks And Silver Creek back to the farm. They sure did not hang together so it definitely was a one on one thing depending on which camera showed me which buck showed up where and when and then I hunt accordingly. A tad more to it then sitting in a heated box blind waiting for any buck to show up.
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40 minutes ago, Moho81 said:
You are correct you never once said the word inferior. I don't know how else to say it but when someone besides yourself reads your posts in this thread its very obvious that your take on hunting is going one on one with the biggest most mature buck in the woods and that style of hunting is superior to any other style of hunting.
You heavily implied if not out right said that your style of hunting is superior to any other style of hunting that anyone does. Other members disagreed with you and you doubled down with your method your style of hunting is superior and anyone else that does not do it to your definition is not hunting.
The opposite of superior is inferior. So the assumption is if you say your style is superior and essentially the only true form of hunting then we the rest of the forum members are left to conclude that our way of hunting which is not your way of hunting is inferior.
Well let’s put it this way. The day you try to do it and either succeed or get you ass handed to ya you come back and let us know. All forms of hunting are the same and everyone gets the same enjoyment as the others involved until it comes to the harvest. And if you think it takes the same skill, mindset or any other word you want to throw In there to hunt single mature bucks compared to sitting on a field shooting the first spike that walks out then there is a whole lot about hunting you have no clue about. Some like to take the word Hunt to the top level and not just go out and Harvest an animal. There is a huge difference.
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9 minutes ago, Doc said:
I will say that the constant and incessant bragging and putting down those that hunt differently than you do, gets pretty damned disgusting in a real short time. But you know that and still keep on doing it anyway. I don't think that anyone is telling you that your attitudes toward hunting are wrong, so who here needs to hear you constantly blathering about how great you are and how all others are all doing it all wrong. I don't know how this can be news to you, but that is not for you to say.
That all fits in with my earlier comments about how these kinds of comments are part of what is driving our numbers down. Nobody needs to hear that kind of crap all the time from anybody. It seems weird that anybody has to point that out to you. I think you have to be intelligent enough to understand how those kinds of comments can get pretty incendiary in a hurry. I have to wonder what kind of a personality has to keep trying so hard to impress people. You hunt the way you want, and nobody really cares. It's just common decency to spare us all the bragging comments and put-downs for those that have different hunting goals than you have.
Again. You had your chance before. Show where there is any bragging involved? It’s fact , it happens every time I harvest an animal because I refuse to shoot inferior animals. Fact. Just like the guy this post was started about. He and I are no different except he is not on this forum. You have an opinion on something you have admitted to never doing. That’s epic. There is no bragging and there has been no knocking of the way others hunt. And if you think there is not more involved in taking only mature animals compared to just filling a buck tag because you have one then that’s on you. It’s all a choice and no need to impress. That’s on others. I know I’m impressed by the guy that yearly tracks and harvests mature bucks In the Adirondacks like clockwork . And we choose to go after the best of the best after already taking all the others the last 50 years. And if you don’t think more hunters are not looking to Improve their hunting and their size of animals harvested you need to get out more. More hunters, even new hunters are more eager to harvest top of the class animals compared to the bottom. Look around you. Do you see many harvest pics online of spikes and fours? Didn’t think so and that was their choice.
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6 minutes ago, Moho81 said:
I am definitely not the almighty and I am pretty sure I have let that be known over the years. I am in the camp that hunting means a lot more to me than chasing a big buck. I have no problem with the way you or anyone else hunt's. This all started when you called big buck hunters superior and the only true hunters hunting to the definition of hunting. Keep in mind that's your definition of hunting.
And not that it matters but yes I have. I have two bucks on the wall. One is 130" that was dumb luck. Right place right time on opening day of the rifle season. Buck number 2 is 126" and I had him on camera before the season. Laid eyes on him twice during bow so I knew where he was hanging out and was pretty sure I knew exactly where he was bedding down at night. I changed the way I entered the woods that year so I wouldn't drag my scent across his travel route. Finally on Thanksgiving it all paid off when around 11am he got out of his bed and came in front of me at 60 yards.
Both those deer are my number 3 and 4 favorite bucks I have killed. My number 1 and number 2 deer are much much smaller. The first is a tiny 6 pointer that I shot when my daughter was in the stand with me. I believe she was 9 years old at the time and it was her 5th year sitting in a stand with me. My second favorite deer is a tiny fork that was my first bow kill after bow hunting for 3 seasons without being successful.
To this day I still have no great desire to only hunt big bucks. It's not my thing it's not the reason I hunt but according to you I am an inferior hunter.
Inferior nothing. That was never said. And the fact is the ultimate hunt is taking down one of the world top game animals one on one on it’s own turf and accepting nothing less. Just what I implied and just what is 100% Fact.
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7 minutes ago, Moho81 said:
Perhaps you should not cast the first, second or third stone if you do not like to get called out for calling people out.
Calling people out. Let me ask you almighty. Have you ever located and hunted a top buck in your area and hunted that animal only until harvest or bust?? If not you have no clue on that feeling. Just as my statements say. That’s not calling any hunters out or throwing any kind of stones on their way of hunting. That’s states fact that they have no idea what it feels like to really hunt AN animal and not sit and wait for ANY animal. That’s 100% fact.
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7 minutes ago, steve863 said:
So you don't find that demeaning in any way?? Come on, dude. This is just one example from this thread. You've been calling out people like Wolc, Grampy and others forever around here. It's one thing calling people out about politics, their quirks or BS like that, I've done that many times myself, but it's another when you call them out about their hunting skills or how you don't think they have any. Where is it written that one needs to continuously show proof of their hunting prowess to participate on this forum?? You can carry on, however, I've wasted enough of my time with you here already. You obviously see only what you want to see.
Oh I see. So you can downgrade a guy that hunts for the top class animals that takes the best of skills but it’s wrong to bring in the other side that choose to shoot some of the lowest class animals in the woods that takes very little skills. I love your rose colored glasses. The fact is that there are both sides in hunting which is fine. But guys like you only call out the ones that choose to sit in the top class. I see.
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11 minutes ago, steve863 said:
No way. As I stated in an earlier post you can hunt for a deer that is twelve years old and toothless for all I care. Don't matter one bit to me. YOU are the one demeaning people here who don't hunt for the big ones like YOU think everyone should. You claim that we can't even know the meaning of the word "hunting" until we do. You even challenge people to show you proof of what they kill which shows how stuck up YOU are on this issue. It's like you go out of your way to make sure that everyone knows that your wiener is bigger than everyone elses. Honestly NO other way to describe it.
By all means. You go back and quote one sentence where I was demeaning in any way on the way others choose to hunt. I will wait. That all comes from your weak mind. I said other hunters will never know the feeling of taking on the best of the best their area has to offer one on one until it’s harvest or bust. And that’s 100% fact and says nothing about other hunters. What you read in to those statements is your problem. There are 1000’s of hunters that hunt the same exact way. It’s always you few that never put up any harvests that have an issue when I put up an awesome harvest. Your colors never change. Now let’s get at that quote your going to show where I was demeaning of the way any other hunters choose to hunt.
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I chased this buck around last year, let probably 20 other bucks walk and never killed a buck last year and ate the tag. That makes my way of hunting better or different from others? I think not. Different strokes for different folks. I like the challenges of taking on the best my area has to offer. Makes the game much more personal with its up’s and downs. Can’t beat the feeling when it all comes together.
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4 minutes ago, steve863 said:
Nope, did not kill a buck this year and feel absolutely no shame about it. Just for you since you are such an idiot I walked downstairs to my basement where some of my past hunting exploits are collecting dust to take a couple of pictures for you. Enjoy. I had these critters mounted because I had the money to do it but they don't mean any more to me than any other animal I have ever shot. I am happy with whatever I get to kill.
Cool. So you have no problem with those bucks but you have problems with others that take bigger and hunt in a different way than yourself. Got It.
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1 hour ago, Shoots100 said:
We live in the most anti gun and anti hunting state with a conservation department that uses hunter license funds to fund anti hunting ad's and programs.
What do you think the perception of hunting by younger generations will be ?
Go to other states and the youth are hunting and fishing.
Don't lump the Tri state area in with the rest of the free states in America.
NY state sucks and has been sucking for decades.
When it gets sucked down the hole, at least I'll have some fond memories of how it used to be while living in a free red state.
SJC
Spot On. Have many friends in other states that actually are in favor of hunting and protect their 2nd. Look what’s happening in some states now with the stocking and protection of Wolves. Just another way to get their agenda pushed.
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5 minutes ago, steve863 said:
LOL, yeah right. Everyone is jealous of you. That has also been your worn out delusional tune around here for years. I guess the pot smoking has gotten to you real good, bud. Go seek help.
Give us another reason? I congratulate every buck that gets posted on this site. Yet you have problems with some of the best on it. Now why don’t you take the time to post up a pic of yourself with your buck from this year??
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1 hour ago, Grouse said:
I think it's time to lock this thread up, since it has degenerated into a list of personal attacks.
Nothing new from these two. You notice they post nothing and I mean nothing of any merit on this site until they want to downgrade others. It’s been comical for years. I just wish I could see any harvests they have ever made.
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1 hour ago, steve863 said:
Does anyone know where I can get a copy of "Deer Hunting for Dummies"? From what expert hunter Four Seasons is telling us it looks like some of us have a lot to learn and we may need to go back to the beginning. LOL
That jelly is really shining thru once again. Usually does when one can’t accomplish what someone else does. Pretty bucks huh?
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Funny how they love the other place and want others to jump ship from here but the Sally’s won’t give the sites name. lol. Maybe John will show back up one of these days and he will play their game and read between the lines and dump the stupidity.