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You're correct on all accounts. I can't remember how many times have I watched a professional hunting show finish off an animal taking 2-3 or 4 shots. They high 5, tap fist, jump around, hoot and holler. To the antis killing an animal in any form or fashion is against there religion. AND, the sooner YOU as hunters understand that , the sooner you'll stop feeling guilty for killing animals. With that said, it's the guilt trip the antis count on to pit us against each other. They konw each person has a level of guilt they can tollerate. The antis have created an entire industry based on individually concockted morals. If you think that video is bad then don't watch any slaughter house production films.

I know 3 people who use to shoot at Avon BowHunters. Jim Capenter, Tom Melkoity & Dave Knotowitz. Jim has to be at least 85 as he was in his 70's when were were in RENIA together. Jim was still an active member in ABH last I knew. I know Tom is 83 as we shoot together and Dave is maybe closing in on 65

And did the salesman show you the breeding card from the farm that deer is on? Letting a deer grow old does not mean it will grow a 180 class rack just because you planted some special seed for them to eat.

I ship ammo to some very remote areas of the states. It's much easier to mail order than to drive 2 or 3 hours to the nearest store.

How about Dick Trickle the NASCAR driver.

See what happens when you're not really involved the associations die off along slow death. AVON BOWMEN 716-334-2793 120 N. CAMPFIRE RD. LIVINGSTON, NY 14467

www.nygunclub.org Williamson Conservation & Sporting Club~ New Years day ~ probably start 9am if the time changes I'll post it.

Starts at 9am Stop out and burn off some sugar

http://blackpowderbill.blogspot.com/2010/12/martens-could-be-named-to-dec-post.html MONDAY, DECEMBER 27, 2010 Martens could be named to DEC post Ah here is a link to OSI http://www.osiny.org/site/PageServer?pagename=AboutOSI_Mission Martens currently heads the Open Space Institute, Martens could be named to DEC post Ya know once all the state land is locked up I can go hunt in another state. POSTED BY BPB AT 12/27/2010 06:20:00 PM 0 COMMENTS [/color][/color][/size]

Sign up Sheet! January 25,2011 www.scopeny.org Brian Kolb has announced the 2011 Sportsman and Outdoor Recreation Awareness Day for Tuesday January 25. Last year there were over 2000 in attendance. Keynote speaker will again be Wayne LaPierre, Executive Vice President of the NRA. Contact your Chapter Chair for information on Transportation. Oswego County Federation of Sportsmen's Clubs will be hosting a bus for this event with pickups in Pulaski at 5 am and at Gander Mountain, Cicero at 5:30 am. We will be returning around 2 pm. Those wishing to ride the bus will be asked to make a donation to help cover the cost of the bus which will be around $25 per person. The bus will accommodate 55 people and it is on a first come first serve basis. Additional details will be forthcoming as they become available. Hope to see everyone in Albany! Erie County Chapter will be hosting a bus leaving the South Gate Plaza at 4:00AM. The cost will be $20.00 per seat, SCOPE NY will be teaming up with Sporting Clubs, Conservation Clubs, etc to visit legislators in Albany on January 25th 2011. We need volunteers to fill the buses, fill the halls, and visit the legislators.

2011 Resolution Process Deadline By now, you should be putting the final touches on your county’s or organization’s resolutions to the NYSCC which are due February 1, 2011. All of your research should be done, supporting documentation gathered, your members queried for their input and you should be ready to submit it electronically by email (preferred method of delivery) to the main office at [email protected] . [/size] As the 2010 resolution voting process completed in September 2010, the new resolution submission process for 2011 began. For those who have not started putting together their organization’s resolution – a considerable amount of work lies ahead. The submitted resolution should be the final “polished” version, and not a work in progress. It should be something that your organization is proud to present to the rest of the state and our legislators. It should be well thought out, documented and if passed ready to act on. For those resolutions being submitted this year, the Resolution Committee will be paying particular attention to make sure that the resolutions are of statewide significance. Local or regional resolutions will only be accepted as exceptions after all other avenues of action have been exhausted. These actions should be documented in the body of the resolution. Simply stating that all sportsmen can hunt or fish in a particular region does not in itself make it of statewide significance. Some of the more common errors for which the Resolution Committee will reject a resolution:1. Does not instruct the NYSCC to perform any action.2. Does not contain supporting facts, or contains rumors or hearsay. 3. Contains several unrelated resolutions tied together with an “also be it resolved”.4. A local resolution with no documented action already taken to try resolve the issue.5. Resolutions submitted after the deadline.6. Does not state how it will benefit the sportsmen in New York.7. Supporting documentation (Whereas statements) have nothing to do with the resolution.8. Broad, unqualified statements of support.9. Not in the correct resolution format.10. “Boilerplate” resolution, all with the same errors. More information on the Resolution process can be found at http://www.nyscc.com/resolutions2010/theresolutionprocess.html Particular questions on the Resolution process can be sent to the Committee Chair, Stephen Wowelko at [email protected] The NYSCC Resolution process continues to evolve each year. We have overcome many hurdles and are trying to make this a valuable process with positive results for the good of all of the Sportsmen in New York! NYSCC_Resolution_Presentation.pdf

I shot an 86 pound groundhog once! He had a hole 2 foot across.

This was a hot topic some years back. It appears someone is not happy with Remington's latest contract to supply new rifles to the troops. I've shot military Remington's and never had a problem. I have one now and no problems. Then again I don't play with the safety or trigger & a round in the chamber either. Most of the problems stemmed from a modified trigger and dirty rifles. If you've seen some of the firearms I have you be shocked. I'm not saying a trigger or safety may fail now and then, BUT I find its operator error more than mechanical. Oddly enough how many rifles did Remington get to actually test that the report was about?

Yepper the DEC has a list every year. I use to get it when I was an instructor. You can FOIL the incidents from the DEC as well.

http://blog.timesunion.com/capitol/archives/43577/pete-grannis-joins-environmental-advocates/ I think the new Commissioner was from this group as well. From the people who brought us lower fuel mileage and the food to fuel program that starve 10 million people, another bottle tax..hey but we saved the earth to float our projects and bank accounts.

FWMB each area has one. they are comprised of sportsmen,clubs from the region. We also have a CFAB at the state level all volunteer. Region 8 drafted a resolution which will be presented to the other's probably at the Spring NYSCC meeting. I figure once the other regions see 8's they will either adot it in full or write their own similiar to 8's. You all should attend the meetings if they are in your area. Its a good way to keep on top of a few items.

The Oswego County Federation of Sportsman's Clubs is sponsoring a bus from the Syracuse area. Pickups will be in Pulaski at 5am and Gander Mountain Cicero at 5:30 am. If you are interested in reserving a seat E-mail me @ [email protected] for full details. Rick

DEC Region 8 FISH AND WILDLIFE MANAGEMENT BOARD RESOLUTION ENCOURAGING THE STATE OF NEW YORK TO RETAIN THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION AS ITS OWN ENTITY WHEREAS, the Fish and Wildlife Management Board was created by the State of New York as an Advisory Board to the Department of Environmental Conservation, and WHEREAS, the members of the NYS DEC Region 8 Fish and Wildlife Management Board represent all sportsmen and women (fisherman, hunters, and trappers) and landowners in the NYS DEC Region 8 Area, and WHEREAS, the Region 8 Fish and Wildlife Management Board speaks on behalf of those sportsmen, sportswomen and landowners in the NYS DEC Region 8 Area, and WHEREAS, it has come to the attention of this Board that the State of New York is entertaining the idea of placing the DEC under the authority and jurisdiction of the Office of Parks and Recreation, and WHEREAS, the Office of Parks and Recreation’s emphasis is on “fish and wildlife” as opposed to “fish and game”, and WHEREAS, fisherman and hunters depend on the Fish and Wildlife Management Boards and the DEC to help protect their rights to fish, hunt and trap where legal anywhere in the State of New York, and WHEREAS, the Office of Parks and Recreation’s focus is and will continue to be directed to public parks and protection of wildlife, exclusive of the promotion of fishing, hunting, and trapping in the State of New York, and WHEREAS, the expenses paid by the sportsmen and sportswomen of the State of New York for fishing and hunting licenses, stamps and other permit fees are maintained in the Conservation Fund to be used to support, enhance and promote their sport, and WHEREAS, these funds by State Finance Law are mandated for such use, and WHEREAS, fishing, hunting and trapping not only have a long tradition within this State, those activities currently provide food for the tables of fishermen, hunters, trappers, their families and friends, as well as local food cupboards, now, therefore, be it RESOLVED, that, on behalf of all sportsmen, sportswomen and landowners in DEC Region 8, this Fish and Wildlife Management Board urges the New York State Executive and Legislators to continue to support the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation in its current form, and also, be it RESOLVED, that the State of New York celebrate and promote this important aspect of residents’ lives in their own State, and be it also RESOLVED, that copies of this resolution be forwarded to Governor Andrew Cuomo of the State of New York, the Commissioner of the Department of Environmental Conservation, the Majority Leader of the New York State Senate, the Speaker of the New York State Assembly, the Chairman of the House Environmental Committee, the Chairman of the Senate Environmental Committee, Senators Michael Nozzolio, Senator Patrick Gallivan, (and the other senators representing the eleven Region 8 Counties) Assemblymen Sean Hanna, Brian Kolb (and the other Assemblymen representing the eleven Region 8 counties), DEC Regions 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 9 Directors, and the same DEC regions’ Fish and Wildlife Management Boards, the NYS Association of Counties and the NYS Association of Towns.

Nope Sorry, This was sent to me by the Federation. You could call Avon 226-2466 think that's the correct number

Ah you missed it. I ran an add for 4 weeks to do just that last month. with the weather the way it is now I play hell getting to sight anything in.

State land is logged

I was at a meeting 2 years ago and the DEC had already requested the formula. According to the discussion that day, the drilling companies were not releasing anything claiming proprietary rights. Sooooo your statement seems a bit peculiar to me.

Subject: Archery class Archery Education Class February 7, 6-9 pm February 9 , 6-9pm February 12, 8 am - 1 pm At ; C&C Archery 7149 West Main Rd. LeRoy NY Register in Person at C & C Archery or LeRoy Town Clerc Lead Instructor Bill Fox 585-356-4992 Please post class and Email class poster with number to Carl Hyde Gen. Co.co.

Link to a flyer if you want it. http://xa.yimg.com/kq/groups/2643011/762299516/name/finalmiller+sportsmen_flyer2011_CAMO2.pdf

Yes and No ....... I have seen a few articles on the PSE Tac-15 . It's a powerfull and has amazing accuracy out to and beyond 100 yards . Here I am at 69 years old shooting a 60 & 70 pound bow . Poor me , I should be able to use something much easier . I could have reached out and touched some of those deer with the Tac-15 . You could use something easier, say like a 50 pound bow. People became polarized on bigger and more power. It was all marketing hype to sell more equipment. Macho man stuff.