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Posts posted by chas0218
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You realize those taking the big deer this year like other years are the ones managing properties not shooting skippys?Have you seen some of the deer taken this year? In non. Ar areas??? Its not needed. Great bucks are taken every year. Older deer are not easy to kill. The push for ars removes many opportunities for hunters to develop skill needed in tracking ,bullet / arrow placement. Tracking, still hunting, stand set up / location.I would not be the hunter I am with out the numerous harvest I have had of small bucks. At a point an individual may want a larger older buck but that is his own choice .no one imo has the right to ask for antler restrictions unless they have only harvested 120 in plus bucks their entire life....
My sister shot this on our property that we pass deer 3.5 years old. Guess what we practice AR. This was actually a cull deer that is a 4.5 year old 8 point. We dont shoot 8 points but he has been an 8 point since he was 2.5. I have a few other pictures somewhere, but I'm not in any pissing match. They work end of story, she yeilded 62lbs of meat from this 140lbs. dressed buck. He was rutting hard and no fat except a little above this tail.
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Caliber wise an -06 will do the same a .308 will. It will knock any north American game animal down. Gun wise the simpler the better in terms of reliability. A hammer fired gun can't get much more reliable. Autoloading it would have to be something like an AR. If i were doing an AR I think 6.5 creedmoor would be the ticket.
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Thanks, she was beyond excited. We have taken some real nice deer off this property. Sorry but she's not single and the land is spoken for. Haha
Congrats!! Nice buck.
So I gotta ask is your sister single and does she come with said hunting land??
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Thanks, sad part is the picture doesn't do it justice. The bases were bigger around than redbull cans or a touch bigger than bud light cans. Truly impressive deer. I passed him 2 years ago during rifle in the same area.WOWZA! some mass on that beast ! Nice buck. Congrats to your sis
We figired the rough score to be 147" with 23" inside spread.
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So the gut pile behind my house from a deer harvested in another area can get me in trouble for baiting? Seems like a stretch of that's all the evidence they have and presumption of guilt won't bring charges. In case you all have forgotten "innocent until proven guilty". The proof needs to be rock solid not what is in the gut pile or stuck in its teeth.
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Or a in food plot or 100. I know if i was in that area and there wasn't any corn fields within miles my number one food plot would be corn.Not that I don't believe you....but someone has to be growing corn in a backyard garden for the fun of it.
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Dont really need kill plots as there isn't much around for deer to graze after they turned the alfalfa field to corn and harvested it early bow.I have underground springs all over my property and it sure raises hell with plotting when rainfall is more than normal. But helps out in drier times of year. If you dont want to blend it all. do strip planting like your talking of. A lot also depends on size of the plot per species your trying to plant. Protected, or unprotected. Kill plot, or just a feed plot.. etc
Looking at some decent sized plots for grazing and lots of hinge cut maples and aspen around the plots.
Yeah I've really been considering the WI stuff they have a buy 2 get 1 right now on the perennial clover mix.i have two clover plots currently one is whitetail instatiute the other is just a basic ladino they eat both but the wi gets hit way harder, even tho the ladino looks more lush and appears to grow better, also dont go by this past year as far as moisture rain was way above normal and even places that are normally dry where wet
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40 acres total plots were going to vary but i didntwant to go much bigger than 40 yards x 40 yards.How big are the plots? How big is the property? Do you bow hunt?
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Sister managed to seal the deal on the big 8 i saw when big bro pushed an area he had a hinkering he might be.
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My plan for the one plot was going to be 50/50 clover/brassica my other 50/50 corn/soybean.
Im going to try some diversion ditches to get some water away from the plots as it comes down off the hill. Unfortunately i have a couple springs on the property that dont help the situation.
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I like to put it centered up down and left right so if you're 2"any direction you have a dead deer. This is a little gruesome but 80 yards with the .243 95gr. Ballistic tip hit spine on exit.So, ideally, where is the aiming point for the neck shot, as seen from the side? Base of the neck, a few inches from the top line?
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Looking ahead to this spring I need some food plots. No doubt in my mind part will be a mix of brassicas the other part has me wondering. I have wet soil and this clover is supposed to do well in wet soil. I dont have standing water but soggy with the amount of rain we got this summer.
Any other suggestions I'll take them. Alfalfa is out of th question it will end up getting a root fungus and die off. White clover doesnt like wet feet so that wont work. I want it to be a perennial plot.
I've decided to put in 2 bigger plots instead of 3 smaller ones. My plan is to hinge cut around the plots to allow easy access only in certian areas also to allow more light into the areas.
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Shot almost all my gun deer in the neck all have ranged where but from a .243 to 20 gauge. None took another step after the shot. Shot a doe this weekend in the boiler room went 70 yards and piled. Below is the blood trail. Easy to track and next to no meat ruined. First deer i shot in the vitals since i was 16 when i got my first 6 point with the old 20 gauge.
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Connected with a decent 2.5 yr old doe at 2pm. The wife's .243 really puts a hole in them. Went 60 and crashed, worse part about it was when I dragged her out at dark there was a buck all rutted up upwind of me. He smelled to high heaven and before i knew what was going on he was gone couldnt even get a good look but I'm pretty sure he is the giant I've been after.
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In 8f heard 37 shots so far first was at 6:32 on the dot. Big spike came up out 16" wide smaller body. 2 doe fawn button buck and 2 doe. Really want a big doe. Up to 40 shots.
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For me it's tougher during bow than gun. I think its because they have to get a lot closer and when that happens it's harder to control your adrenaline. Your movements and the shot has to be more calculated putting more pressure on yourself. Either way i love it. The adrenaline rush is unreal not much else can get me going like a big buck 20 yards from my stand.I have had an issue with Buck Fever since I started hunting almost 30 years ago now. I thought I was getting better at controlling it but I totally blew it yesterday. This isn't a feeling I ever want to go away, its the reason I hunt. I am worried about wounding an animal because I can't control my emotions. I feel like if everything is slow and developing I have gotten to the point where I can control myself and make a great shot. When it happens fast, I proved I can still blow it. Yesterday at a little after 3 I had a buck come in from behind me on my left. I didn't see him till he was at my 9 oclock. I saw him and it seemed like in a span of about 20 seconds I said to myself holy crap, that's the wide white horned 8, got my crossbow on the shooting rail, found him in the scope, figured he went behind a scrub bush that I know is 30 yds, figured he was 35 yds, found him in the right reticle (between 30 and 40) looked out of the scope and gave him a mahhhh….and he stopped dead. After that my memory is all blurry. I dont' remember finding him again in the scope, I am sure I peaked at the shot or maybe I wasn't even looking through the scope when I shot, maybe I squeezed the trigger when I stopped him. I know I watched my bolt fly right under him. I am still so mad at myself, I kept my composure about half way and threw it all out the window at the most critical part. This might have been my biggest deer ever, I do have a really nice 9 pt that is my avatar but this was a really nice deer. For sure my largest archery deer and if you guys have read posts, I don't see deer like that every day. I am so glad I didn't wound him. That would have been way way worse but if I can't get this under control with archery gear, I feel like that could happen. I could have easily shot him in the @ss....
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Yup, i agree 100% we have now been doing our own AR on 200 acres and the one neighbor doing it on his 100 acres and have true giants walking around. It's been 8 years now and we have had 3 bucks over 130" some close to 160" every year. It is possible even if you only have 20 acres and pass the small ones it's worth it. I have 40 acres and pass 2.5 year olds granted some of the young ones get shot by the one neighbor brown it's down but they can only take 1 during gun. Below is a 2.5 and 3.5 i have running around. This is on my little piece of 40 acres. If you do some land management the deer will stick around. That is the boat in in right now, where this photo was taken i had some clover that just got annihilated. i added a daytime picture of the 2.5.I know this may seem like an impossible task, but raise your limit to 8 or better , or 4 points to one side. i had a similar issue on a 48 acre land I hunted that the neighbors would “high five” after shooting a 4 pointer I just let pass.. it’s frustrating , I know!after talking to the other neighbors it seemed that Some were on the same page with me. Now I understand if it’s someomes first deer or a young hunter, but if you even get 1 hunter to be on board it could yield results.
it took two LONG years, but we started getting big 8’s, 10’s and an 11 by the third year. The big guys are out there, they need a chance to grow, they don’t get big by being dumb, they know where to walk and when it’s safe.
good luck
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If outhouse isnt your thing you could look into one of those composting toilets.
I would be burying one of those 500 gallon holding tanks and use a 12v pump with a long pickup. If you can i would pull off the bottom of the tank and bury the line or use the insulated hydronic heating line so i can use the water in the cold months. I would just bring drinking water with me.
The shower and sink drians i would just run them outside onto the ground with a check valve where I wouldn't be walking around.
Honestly no need for a septic and well if you arent looking to make it a year round residence.
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Think i saw some at walmart. Pretty cheap too. Less than $8 for a bag is pretty good i would think.
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DEC won't investigate without probable cause. Most likely will call the guy and ask what he is using it for and if the excuse is good enough they won't bother knocking on his door. A tipline isn't considered probable cause.On this one, I feel if you saw the bait in the field either from a property line or however it would be justified. Based off the information you have provided, you have no proof of wrong doing and really no justification for accusing the person of wrong doing. All you "know" (from a second hand source) is that he bought some corn from a local farmer, this happens all the time. Are you sure the guy doesn't have a couple of pig, or beef cows he's feeding? As stated, does he burn it for fuel? If myself and family had a cold and I went to the drug store and bought a bunch of cold medicine and you saw me are you going to call the police accusing me of making meth? Just asking...Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
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I consider 5.5 mature maybe 4.5 i have seen deer mature much more afyer 3.5.use of "mature" being subjective. it's my opinion that they still have a lot more growing to do after 3.5 yrs old. they can add on 40lbs or more of weight and 25+ inches out this way where they top off compared to the other end of the state. what you've seen is what you've seen out that way is what it is though.
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Same.The book says " must be displayed on the middle of your back". If you are wearing it on your pack (like I do ) it is in the middle of your back. When I get in a stand it is still on the pack and usually visible. If someone doesn't like it ts.
If it is on the middle of your back and you have a pack on it isn't visible
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Saw a huge 8 point on morning sit unfortunately didnt have a shot. His g2s were insane about 16" and spread 20"+. Truly awesome how big this thing was.
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Thanks everyone, very true the clean miss is a blessing in disguise.
I'm heading out to try her again playing the wind game today as this afternoon doesn't seem like the best time to be in a tree.
Im thinking that set is shot and he will be avoiding it, they dont get big by being dumb. I have my aluminum portable and climbing sticks im goin to throw up on this field edge he came in on hopefully i can get another shot tonight or tomorrow A.M.
Good luck everyone. Didnt get much sleep last night knowing i missed him. O well can't shoot them all.
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Figured I should try it
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So this year I decided to nut up and buy a bag of tall tines tuber. Did the prep work needed last fall turned over the soil let it sit till early spring turned it over again and roughed it up one last time before seeding.
I didn't spray and still dont have much in terms of weeds. The plot is small maybe 20 yards wide by 50 yards long. It seemed to germinate great and have been bringing in a few deer. I'll attach some pics, but anyway I got back home to see a lot burned up and was very disappointed by the progress it had made.
Well being that I didn't have a ton of time I worked up an area threw down some seed and we will see what grows. It was August 4th the last time I saw it and will be back to see it on the 24th so over the 20 days I'm hoping the old stuff started bouncing back and the new stuff took hold.
The photo with the tractor is when I worked it the first time this year.
Did I waste the rest of my $80 bag of seed? Lol
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