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I agree with Northsox. Cornell lands are good to have for another option for locals like us and Cornell employees that can "run out back" with a bow at 5 pm. On another note it is obvious that the Cornell deer reduction program using White Buffalo has worked as deer are not walking around campus like in the past I have not seen one with an ear tag this year.

The usual frustrated hunters that are not seeing the deer they think they should be seeing. Blame the DEC, coyotes, insurance companies, not enough logging, doe permits, hippies, bigfoot ... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It's a natural resource and does not belong in a landfill. Hang it in a tree. Birds will feed on it all winter. Put up a trail cam and you will get all kinds of interesting photos - fisher, hawks etc.

For a big woods buck killer you waste alot of time blogging with the newbies. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Theodore Roosevelt has written at length on the subject. Modern firearms deer season in NY is relatively new (1940ish), as the forest was mostly cleared and wildlife wiped out in the 1800s. The Great Depression after WWI took the pressure off the land and resulted in most of the state land we have today. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yes. That is the essence of deer camp. The norm these days is guys get a deer and go home. Or complain about the “lack of deer” at the old family camp in the mountains or southern tier and leave early to go sit over a food plot on the land they lease with work buddies in the flat lands. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10,000 yrs ago was a short time after the last glacial event so wildlife density was very low as plants were just getting re-established. By human hunting I assume you mean white people hunting as humans have inhabited this region, and hunted wildlife, for thousands of years. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No offense but it sounds like you have never hunted north of Syracuse. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If you are interested in forest management and improving wildlife habitat, then check out the NY Forest Owners Association and watch the many Webinars that are posted on-line by Cornell, SU, Penn State, U Vermont etc. Much of the forest in NY is 80-100 yrs old which is generally considered the least productive stage for wildlife. Early successional and old growth forest are the most productive stages of a forest for wildlife. Forest management to improve wildlife habitat is what most hunters would like to see. Logging is one of the many tools to accomplish that goal and under a management plan involves more cutting to improve diversity and quality of the forest than extract commercial timber. However, the sale of commercial timber is usually needed to fund the management work. The DEC writes Unit Management Plans (UMPs) for state lands. They are posted online and there is always a public comment period when a plan is drafted. No I do not work for the DEC but I do own and manage forested land in NY, and I hunt the ADK, Allegany State Park and the ANF in PA.

I see no deer so cut the woods down. Sell the timber burn the rest. Then I see deer and maybe be happy. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

After opening day you could cut many blood trails and see 1 drag mark. The talk back at the trucks was like “Yea I got 10 shots” Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

First hunted ASP in the 80s. Duck plug in shotgun, invasion of the orange army, trucks lined up on the shoulders, hunting clubs with headsets, banging pots n pans on deer drives, City hunters stealing deer from cabins (some folks chained and locked their deer) and buying bucks on the rez on way home. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

40-50 lbs Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You should have used all caps in your correction. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

PA deer and bear seasons do not coincide like NY. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Scenarios like this should be discussed beforehand when hunting with a group. I have hunted in many camps and the days of hunting parties and deer drives are long behind me and leave few good memories. Fortunate to hunt solo or with 1-3 veteran hunters who are on the same page. Learn, grow as a hunter and don't let this torture you as you obviously care. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Make sure you deer protect. Chestnut oak are a good choice also. High wildlife value. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Same story in my woods. And they seem to be holding in the valleys. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Deep is relative especially in the southern zone as trails and logging roads are numerous. The key is finding those nasty spots that are mostly undisturbed and funnels near those spots. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Some people feel entitled and extend their self perceived right to use the land to others. If you don't speak directly to that person then it will continue.

The blue pike genes run strong in the Raquette River in the ADK and less common, but still present, on Lake Erie. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Google it. PA has a statewide early anterless MZ season as do other states. Many hunters in PA. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Join National Woodland Owners Association. They offer low premium landowners liability insurance. http://woodlandowners.org/insurance/ Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Agreed. NY has one of the longest deer seasons and up to 7 tags per hunter. Plus all the public land. The same people that complain about NYC influence on upstate also forget that NY has a northern zone with an early MZ season. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk