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Two videos side by side to compare hunting pheasant and grouse. A third video to be added to this page in the near future. The next time someone says pheasant are helpless and all that, refer them to this. http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/videos-difficulty-of-hunting-pheasant-compared-to-ruffed-grouse.html -
Mourning Doves spring migration is underway and they have been back in NY since February, Since about March 2, there has been even more. The males are actively calling for mates. If you are not hearing them, this is what they sound like: https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Mourning_Dove/sounds
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Click on this link to take Quiz number 3 http://goo.gl/YAA44h
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Here is quiz number 2 - have fun! http://goo.gl/vtJFkI
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Take the NY Dove Hunting quiz. See if you are a good dove hunting advocate! http://www.poll-maker.com/Q51PGM
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Our 5 Websites (Note each website also has its own social media presences) http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/ http://thebirdhuntingsociety.weebly.com/ http://unitedhuntersofnyc.weebly.com/ http://newjerseysundayhuntingforall.weebly.com/ http://thefoodcentrichunter.weebly.com/ RGS Chapter (Hudson Valley) Fundraiser https://attachment.fbsbx.com/file_download.php?id=1724294747805159&eid=ASu-VZP_4wW3ZSURnC_fw4nIlPnA0DhNocnrqTituG_FCk-h-Q1PemYEnnP6XYzMG98&inline=1&ext=1454491292&hash=ASsZgXR9LXqru5dw
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NY Dove Hunting launched another subsidiary. From this site, we have doewhacker and 16. gauge hunter working on the team. Those interested in our advocacy goals, as well as some dog training meet ups and hunts, are encouraged to use the web link below to learn about the organization and join us. Follow us on Facebook as well. http://thebirdhuntersofnewyork.weebly.com/
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We just learned of an event posted on Facebook to protest a crow hunting contest in NY. Reading the comments within the event, we see someone commenting against the hunting of rails, gallinules, and woodcock. The theme: crows, rails, gallinules, and woodcock is webless migratory game birds, which would also include mourning doves, although they were not mentioned. Another comment pushed against grouse and pheasant hunting, and created the Facebook hash tags grouse lives matter and pheasant lives matter. This is why BIRD HUNTERS need to organize and sign petitions as we ask!
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Twenty states have state pheasant stocking programs. Critics of these programs grossly mischaracterize all aspects of them, including how much they cost and who pays for them.This report is specific to NY and is part of a series we (NY Dove Hunting and The Bird Hunting Society) are publishing to provide a realistic perspective about the matter. http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/cost-of-reynolds-pheasant-farm-per-hunter.html
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Synopsis of The Annual “Joint Budget Hearing – Environmental Conservation.” Every year, state agencies such as the DEC have a hearing regarding how much money they need for the upcoming year’s operations. The DEC, is actually the Environmental Conservation Department, hence Joint Budget Hearing – Environmental Conservation. Other state agencies also have their own Joint Budget Hearings, but Environmental Conservation indicates the DEC. This year the DEC’s hearing is Thursday, January 28, 2016, from 9:30 am to 12:30 pm. The location is: Hearing Room B, 2nd Floor, at the state house in Albany of course. The hearing will also stream live as a video and also be available as an archived video at least for some time. The word “Joint” refers to the presence of both the state senate and state assembly. However, it is not the entire senate and assembly; it is the Senate Finance Committee and the Assembly Ways and Means Committee, or at least their chairs, who at this time are Senator John DeFrancisco and Assemblyman Herman Farrell. The Senate and Assembly Environmental Conservation Committees do not necessarily participate in this hearing, as this is a matter of funding. Besides the DEC testifying on its own behalf, the public can also make suggestions about funding the DEC. Perhaps a dozen persons who represent a variety of diverse organizations will testify. In 2015, even Susan McDonough, a former state trooper (16 year veteran), who now is the NYS Humane Association Chair of the Committee on Animal Cruelty issues had testified. Although the record of McDonough’s testimony addresses the Agriculture Markets Department, an agency that might have been relevant to her testimony, apparently McDonough got lost and ended up in the Environmental Conservation Hearing were she asked for tens of thousands of dollars to be used to train police officers and dog control officers about animal cruelty. McDonough asserted that animal cruelty is a “bridge crime” and testified that serial killers often have a history of animal cruelty and indicated Jeffrey Dalmer and the Boston Strangler are examples of this. If YOU want to testify here is how you go about it. You call Jessica Jeune (518-455-3573) at least two days before the hearing. The DEC is scheduled on Thursday, January 28, 2016. Therefore you must call Jeune no later than Tuesday, January 26. Your testimony must be limited to ten minutes and you must bring 50 copies of your testimony with you.
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Doves seen per hour in Blinds across NY
mike rossi posted a topic in Small Game and Predator Hunting
So, just how many mourning doves does one see per hour sitting in blinds across NY state in December 2015? Here is a partial report on this years Christmas Bird Count for mourning doves, done just this past week or so.... Note Location and in BOLD first number is doves seen, second number is hours in the blind. As I already said, December is not prime time to see mourning doves in NY because of migration and mortality, thus numbers of resident and stop over doves in the fall are much greater. December 2015 Christmas Bird Count Mourning Dove – NY Mourning Dove NYUD Ulster-Dutchess 42.0280 -73.9537 486 4.2445 NYOD Oneida 43.0957 -75.6522 398 8.2062 NYCT Catskill-Coxsackie 42.2871 -73.8823 364 3.6129 NYSI Staten Island 40.5833 -74.1500 344 3.7189 NYML Mohonk Lake-Ashokan Reservoir 41.8516 -74.1292 332 3.6889 NYCH Conesus-Hemlock-Honeoye Lakes 42.7776 -77.6161 302 3.0200 NYOO Oak Orchard Swamp 43.1517 -78.3904 272 2.9405 NYNN L.I.: Northern Nassau County 40.8660 -73.5938 261 1.4978 NYEO Eastern Orange County 41.4811 -74.1473 232 2.4946 NYSB St. Bonaventure 42.1082 -78.4844 223 4.3092 NYSY Syracuse 43.1000 -76.0833 219 1.7951 NYRC Rockland County 41.1347 -73.9746 194 2.1202 NYBM Beaver Meadow 42.6757 -78.3721 148 3.4023 NYCM Chatham 42.3797 -73.6461 138 1.4681 NYMT Monticello 41.5678 -74.6321 137 3.0444 NYOS Oswego-Fulton 43.3983 -76.4742 102 1.6518 NYRM Rome 43.3035 -75.4732 78 2.9434 NYSO Scio 42.1668 -78.0667 66 2.5882 NYWA Watertown 44.0071 -75.9843 64 1.6495 NYSL Saranac Lake 44.3167 -74.0730 45 0.3830 NYHP Huyck Preserve 42.4980 -74.2170 15 0.3947 -
Mourning Dove Population and Distribution in NY State Note: This report is not complete and is still in progress.Stay tuned.... • DEC Mourning Dove Banding Effort: The DEC participated in a five year banding study which was recently completed. We are confirming locations of banding, and number of doves banded each year and will include this data in this report. Thus far, we have some partial data from Region 9: in the town of Portland, the DEC banded between 200 and 300 mourning doves per year. • Christmas Bird Counts (CBC): These counts are done in December every year in all sections of the state. Note that mourning dove populations are not likely to be near peak during the CBC because of migration. We are collecting CBC data which will be included in this report. We have some data from the Plattsburg region Christmas Bird Count of 2006. Here is the numbers for that year: Ferrisburg: 579 mourning doves. Plattsburg: 442 mourning doves. Elizabethtown: 171 mourning doves. Saranac Lake: 84 mourning doves. • Miscellaneous: Mourning doves nest in “great numbers” in Long Island, the Lower Hudson Valley, and the Lake Ontario Plains. Mourning dove populations have increased in NY for the past 40 to 45 years as evinced by population surveys done by the FWS.
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Being a Dove Advocate 1. Individuals such as yourself acting as an advocate for dove hunting is essential to the success of the dove initiative. 2. Outreach on hunting matters is always very difficult. There is no exception to this, just ask any DEC staff. 3. Never expect people to be informed or even interested in the subject, this is why outreach and advocacy is so important. 4. Expect a few naysayers in every crowd. 5. Because so few are informed about the matter and the inevitable naysayers you need to be prepared. Use our online outreach tools to first inform yourself and then to inform those whom you speak to. 6. At first you might not influence many people. You may even feel your efforts are backfiring. However, as you gain experience conducting outreach you will get better and better. 7. Remain confident and stick to your narrative as all of the information we promulgate is accurate, verifiable, and in the correct context. In contrast, the narratives of naysayers are none of that. 8. Do not feel obligated to defend everything you say. Remember there are 12 million hunters in the USA and each of them have opinions about numerous topics. As you become more skilled you will find it easier to defend your statements, but that does not equate to an obligation of responding to absurd opinions or repeatedly address the same subtopic over and over to no end.
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The Anti-Pheasant Hunting Narrative (a set of predictable stories with repetitive refrains) is a cleverly layered case against pheasant hunting purposely designed with seductive premises which resonate with a broad public. That diverse group includes some conservationists and hunters who are willing to bolster (the pheasant and dove rhetoric of the Humane Society) to undermine certain forms of hunting.... Read More: http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/the-case-for-state-pheasant-stocking-programs.html
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During the most radical changes in New York for deer management, which were proposed in 2015... Read the complete article: http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/evaluating-the-new-york-hunting-communitys-response.html
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Actually, the past year some of the 11 states have modified Sunday bans. However, we believe in Sunday hunting for all, not just bow hunters and/or private land owners. In addition to our dove effort in NY, we also are engaged in reforming Sunday, public land, firearm hunting bans. We ask persons who buy New Jersey non-resident as well as resident hunting licenses to sign our petition. If you are a non resident, include in the comments that you buy a NJ non-resident hunting licence. And, as always, inform others in your personal network about this petition and the website NJ Sunday Hunting For All. Here is the link to this petition: http://newjerseysundayhuntingforall.weebly.com/sign-the-petition-to-allow-sunday-firearm-hunting.html
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Here is a map depicting the distribution of signatures as of November 28, 2015. Also attached for comparison is the distribution map up to September 18, 2015. When we published the September 18, 2015 map, we called everyone's attention to the "bald spots". As you can see there has been a response and improvement, however, certain areas are still lagging. Of course, some of the bald spots cover the Adirondack and Catskill Parks, and other areas where few or no people live. Even prior to September 18, 2015, we stepped up efforts in the Lower Hudson Valley, NYC, and Long Island. These regions carry the most weight in the NY State Assembly, and cooperation form Assembly members in those regions is important to the success of this initiative. As evinced on the map, the response in these regions has been very good! We still have a ways to go and we urge everyone to maintain all the stamina they can muster and keep pushing!
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Last year the DEC opened its revised mute swan plan for public comment. Little or none of the actions set forth in this plan required legislative approval. The public comment period was open for 45 days and the DEC received over 8,000 comments, mostly from animal rights advocates. NY Dove Hunting submitted comment, wrote the Legislature, the DEC, and the Governor. Before the public comment period was completed, Senator Avella and Assemblyman Cybrowitz put pressure on the DEC by introducing legislation which would prevent the DEC from implementing its mute swan strategies. Defying all common sense, this bill passed with only 25 legislators voting against it - all from the assembly; which means the entire republican majority senate also voted anti DEC. NY Dove Hunting than created a petition which was signed by about 350 persons. We submitted the petition to the governor, along with video evidence of the impacts of mute swans. In December 2015, Governor Cuomo did indeed VETO the legislation. However Avella and Cybrowitz were not willing to take no for an answer. They reintroduced the bill, with minor modifications (* see below), and it passed again. We are in the process of verifying the vote, to determine how many legislators changed their vote the second time around. We believe (ONE) senator (may) have voted against the bill the second time.Check our websites at a latter date for this information. The second bill was also VETOED by Cuomo earlier this week. Cuomo's veto message for the second bill was: "The circumstances that necessitated my disapproval have not changed". (*) 1. Prioritize non-lethal methods when dealing with mute swans 2. DEC must hold a MINIMUM of two public hearings before taking any action.
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As most of you know the anti-pheasant movement includes some hunters , including some who then turn around and tout the proverbial hunters should stick together. We (NY Dove Hunting and The Bird Hunting Society) have published counter arguments to this distortion of the facts. We are currently working on a series of reports about the matter. As a prelude to these reports, I want to share with you some of the photos we will be using and introduce the claim made made by antis (including hunters or people pretending to be hunters or paid google trolls drumming up hits for advertising - sporting gun, camo, and dead things complete). Anybody who has actually killed game birds, rather than just talks about it (or how easy they are), examines crop contents.... Here are a few, more to come....Stay tuned for series of reports........ http://thebirdhuntingsociety.weebly.com/bird-crops.html
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From the DEC Facebook page: we replied as The Bird Hunting Society. Please read our response and help us tell the antis how it is. For those that do not follow the DEC on Facebook, please start, the hunting community is outnumbered on the DEC page. Please don't be rude, just read the article we refered to, take one or two talking points from it for use in your own comment. Please like our two replies and our pages. Thank you! https://www.facebook.com/NYSDEC/photos/a.10150117710380956.294616.65102420955/10153749772060956/?type=3&theater
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Update August 13, 2015 New York Dove Hunting Petition is doing well. As we alluded in our slide presentation, this movement does not move unless it is pumped. We have analytic tracking which allows us to determine how many people look at our website and social media, and how many return. Of course, the number of petition signatures and social media subscriptions are known as well. We also enter the subscribers into a spreadsheet with petition signatories. Only 10% of those who follow us on social media have actually signed the petition. We have indeed tried to press those people to sign and/or ask why they have not signed, with no results for either. The number of petition signatures we receive is directly related to any action we take. Without doing anything, we might get about one signature a day. Of all the actions, except the advertisement in the Hunting and Trapping Regulation Guide, no action outperforms any other. For example, if we blog on a hunting forum or face book group, send out face book feed, advertise on face book, post on face book hunting groups, or send out mass emails, no one action yields more, and all indeed show a marked spike in signatures. Thus, it is important that you also undertake these actions and help us expand our reach. And, some of you have, keep it up. The others must become engaged as well. The advertisement in the Hunting and Trapping Regulation Guide is only a few days old, and it is indeed working. We also look up some of the signatories and notice we are now reaching a new market or demagraph, which is a very good thing. We hope to take out a full page ad next year, and it is not too early to start gathering donations for the June deadline. At this year’s rates, a full page ad will cost just under $3,000. Our National Hunting and Fishing Day Campaign did not get off the ground. That does not mean all of you cannot take a laptop and/or print outs of petition sheets and go gather signatures at these events next month. With enough people engaged, it would be very easy to get over 10,000 signatures on this one day. Again, now is the time for discussions about National Hunting and Fishing Day in 2016. The sooner this gets into play, the sooner we will be closer than ever toward a dove hunting season in NY. We created a slide show for your use to bring to your clubs. So far, we have no indication anyone has used it or recently presented to any clubs. We will be brushing up our internet sites. Besides housekeeping and maximizing the use of search engines and keywords we are going to also be working on different ways to deliver our message. We will be sending out social media feed in much smaller bites which are more palatable. In addition to that, we have been experimenting with cartoons, and will be prolifically producing cartoons and, of course, distributing them in the near future. We are excited and optimistic about the ground we have broken, the wide foundation we have built, and the new approaches, especially the cartoons we are developing. However, we are not nearly in place to take the beach yet. The sooner more people “get serious about doves” the sooner this will happen. “Time to get serious about doves!”
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Today is Monday, December 15. Governor Cuomo has until Wednesday December 17, presumably until midnight, to act on the anti DEC legislation out of Queens. The legislation is on the governor’s desk, right next to NY Dove Hunting’s petition asking him to VETO it. NY Dove Hunting has reported and informed on this issue for a solid five months. In the future, we need all to pay better attention to what we promulgate and mobilize faster. However, there still is three days. Let’s test how organized we are and our ability to mobilize. One hundred emails / phone calls to the governor’s office each of those three days, up to and including Wednseday. Three hundred contacts POLITELY asking Governor Cuomo to VETO this legislation. NYDH has outlined many useful “talking points” to use in constructing a message about this legislation. At this stage in the game, we are not going to dredge it all up, but it is published online. Some of the lesser used material centers around the need to manage wildlife across government borders. Any Governor with presidential ambitions might be behooved to consider how conservation-minded United States citizens who do not live in Brooklyn and Queens might view this legislation mostly driven out of two boroughs of NYC. Many persons contacting the Governor about this legislation used analogies with snake heads and feral swine. However, the Governor lives in Long Island, essentially NYC. Therefore, he may relate better to Norway rats, black rats, house mice, Pigeons (which are really “rock doves” another Bird of Peace you know); English or house sparrows, and European starlings. All of these came here oversees in small numbers. We might throw in the Quaker parrot or monk parakeet, which have established colonies in “ Tony Avella County; ” however, there currently is also legislation pending which will reclassify Quaker parrots from unprotected wildlife to protected bird. That’s another chapter and another challenge coming up. There really is no need to get into detail at this stage, unless you feel compelled to. A simple, polite contact, perhaps using one or two talking points, or merely saying that you desire the legislation is VETOED is sufficient. Does your rod and gun meet tomorrow? Are you bringing a petition and/or form letters and pressing everyone to engage? Are you on social media and / or contacting your email contacts about this? As stated, after five solid months of promulgating this, the response was not satisfactory. In the same time, the antis generate tens of thousands of petition signatures and managed to bring this through the legislature. Prior to those five months, the DEC held a public review phase, during which we urged the sporting community to engage. The antis were extremely active in the public review of the DEC’s mute swan strategy, while most sportsmen never even heard of a mute swan… The next MODO bill (mourning dove) must be fully engaged. One of the excuses of Senator Grisanti (who was voted out this election ) was that he and other lawmakers heard from plenty of people opposed to dove hunting, and this was the only contact he and others had in support of it. Some of this falls on the erroneous belief that 1) Pro hunting legislation can escape the radar of anti hunting organizations, it will not however. 2) Failure to understand that environmental conservation regulations will almost always be subject to a public review phase, and that public review phase will be advertised. Speaking of Grisanti, his departure opens the door for a new Senate Environmental Conservation Committee Chairman. The Assembly Cahir position of the same committee is also vacated by the retirement of Robert Sweeney. The new appointments will be interesting. The senate version of the mute swan bill was sponsored by Tony Avella, who is on the Senate En-Con Committee. The assembly version of the mute swan bill was sponsored by Cyronowitz, who is on the Assembly En-Con Committee. This is not suggesting that these two lawmakers will be appointed to chair the committee in their respective houses, but it is a possibility. The En-Con chairpersons are the gate keepers to all DEC related legislation. They decide if it moves forward and also if it expires in what they call the “suspense file”…
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Tony Avella's Anti- DEC mute swan bill (S-06589A and A-08790-A) passed both houses today and will be sent to the governor. All we can do is email Governor Andrew Cuomo and request he veto's the mute swan bills because the DEC knows more about managing wildlife than the humane society. This having passed both houses is now in the hands of the senate which can deliver it to the governor any time they feel. The governor would then have 10 days to either sign it into law or veto it. As of just now, the senate still has it. We need to IMMEDIATELY contact the governor and urge him to veto this proposal. This bill was expedited through the legislative process and finalized the very day before they all break for the year. The 17 sponsors in the Assembly and the 5 sponsors in the Senate made sure they completed this political favor for the animal rights organizations that endorse them before breaking until the fall!
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