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That eggs are like $2 at the store and don't require a shovel?

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Organic? Where?


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You know the difference between a grocery store egg and an "organic" egg?

$4 Lol

If you spent $6 more can prob get eggs from those special chickens where you special order your chicken from.

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You know the difference between a grocery store egg and an "organic" egg?

$4 Lol

If you spent $6 more can prob get eggs from those special chickens where you special order your chicken from.

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As someone in the food industry I can say this is mostly true. The simple explanation is bovine fecal material rolls down hill


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As someone in the food industry I can say this is mostly true. The simple explanation is bovine fecal material rolls down hill


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What makes them taste so much better?

We get the Vital Farms ones. They are outstanding.

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You know the difference between a grocery store egg and an "organic" egg?

$4 Lol

If you spent $6 more can prob get eggs from those special chickens where you special order your chicken from.

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The taste is way different IMO. Just like Perdue chicken which tastes like rubber and frequent chewy pieces vs Bell & Evans which never tastes bad


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$12 bottles of red wine can taste as good as $50 bottles….as long as the price tag is changed before being seen!


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It’s all about taste. Lots of great bottles of red under $20. But Perdue chicken is tough to swallow (pun intended).


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34 minutes ago, BizCT said:


It’s all about taste. Lots of great bottles of red under $20. But Perdue chicken is tough to swallow (pun intended).


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Agree a 100% until you have tasted the difference, one doesn't know what they have been missing when it comes to pasture raised grass fed chicken.

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My uncle worked in a food processing warehouse for 25 years. He used to tell us how they ran a brand label on canned foods then switched brand labels often and never changed products.

Worked at a place where they bought bags of potatoes from one company opened up the bags and put them in new bags for their contract and made $ off it.

Took a tour of some organic farms during farm days. The difference was the "organic" animals and plants were just separated farther from the road with no pesticides in their certain area. The chickens still ate their own feces at both.

Differences were that they had lower yield for the organic as they couldn't use pesticides but they could charge more. I didn't ask about gmo or anything.

My brother was a national chain grocery store manager for 20 years and his stories of places trying to rotate eggs from store to store were interesting. My Dad was a chef.

That being said there is nothing better than fresh produce or meat raised local and fresh. And if organic is for you then go for it. But I would better spend that money on fresh local produce or meat if I was to spend more and wanted better products. Not buy it and think it's better because it says organic. My two cents.

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There was a business in my first due, that “made” bottled water . They had all the different bottles on display, from fancy ones that looked like wine bottles  for NYC restaurants, Vegas casinos , and plain Jane bottled water .

It all was filtered Rochester tap water . 

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We are exclusively using bantams now. Smaller eggs but a few are in the medium category (bantam Cochin). They still lay pretty well for us - I think we have 8 total, and they lay 5-6 per day in season. We don't force light our birds during winter or slow period. Bantams have proven to be a bit more docile and easier to handle for my daughter. This is our first spring in probably five years with us not hatching eggs or buying chicks. 8 is enough.

Agree on all fronts with the coop suggestions. I have two coops - one cheapo kit from TSC that we winter the birds in (easier to provide some wind break with greenhouse plastic wrap), and a larger cattle panel hoop enclosure with a separate coop inside. Really agree with the advice around security for predators. We've done the same with HC and a chicken wire overlay. 

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My uncle worked in a food processing warehouse for 25 years. He used to tell us how they ran a brand label on canned foods then switched brand labels often and never changed products.

Worked at a place where they bought bags of potatoes from one company opened up the bags and put them in new bags for their contract and made $ off it.

Took a tour of some organic farms during farm days. The difference was the "organic" animals and plants were just separated farther from the road with no pesticides in their certain area. The chickens still ate their own feces at both.

Differences were that they had lower yield for the organic as they couldn't use pesticides but they could charge more. I didn't ask about gmo or anything.

My brother was a national chain grocery store manager for 20 years and his stories of places trying to rotate eggs from store to store were interesting. My Dad was a chef.

That being said there is nothing better than fresh produce or meat raised local and fresh. And if organic is for you then go for it. But I would better spend that money on fresh local produce or meat if I was to spend more and wanted better products. Not buy it and think it's better because it says organic. My two cents.

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Hahaha all of what you said is spot on..

Yes you go to a saputo dairy. I’m using this as example because they are all over NY. For 3 hours in the morning they pack my cheese. Then they change the package and pack for Sysco. When they are done with Sysco they pack US Foods and so on.

Lots of companies re pack that’s normal but silly

As far as farm tours go I have spent lots of time in the Salinas Valley, and yes to all that you said..

Also who knew that pre bagged salads are washed in bleach?

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RE organic, we had a bout of mites hit two years ago - pretty bad. We maintain good cleaning habits for our coop but mites are more of a when rather than if, in alot of instances.

We looked into ivermectin and decided to use it. It works well, but there is some notes about human consumption - some say 21 days later before consuming eggs. Some people freak out and say lifetime ban on egg eating if they were treated. Others, they eat them after the 21 days. We eat them. Really hard to tell if it's dangerous or not - get busy living, or get busy dying, I guess.

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1 hour ago, Robhuntandfish said:

My uncle worked in a food processing warehouse for 25 years. He used to tell us how they ran a brand label on canned foods then switched brand labels often and never changed products.

Worked at a place where they bought bags of potatoes from one company opened up the bags and put them in new bags for their contract and made $ off it.

Took a tour of some organic farms during farm days. The difference was the "organic" animals and plants were just separated farther from the road with no pesticides in their certain area. The chickens still ate their own feces at both.

Differences were that they had lower yield for the organic as they couldn't use pesticides but they could charge more. I didn't ask about gmo or anything.

My brother was a national chain grocery store manager for 20 years and his stories of places trying to rotate eggs from store to store were interesting. My Dad was a chef.

That being said there is nothing better than fresh produce or meat raised local and fresh. And if organic is for you then go for it. But I would better spend that money on fresh local produce or meat if I was to spend more and wanted better products. Not buy it and think it's better because it says organic. My two cents.

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This all makes sense. Because you're talking about farms that are selling both organic and non-organic items. But organic isn't the only key word when it comes to flavor certain items. Grass-fed, or pasture-raised must have an effect too. Just deer out west that eat corn or sage brush taste different. 

Buy a carton Vital Farms eggs or Bell&Evans chicken and tell me they honestly don't taste different.

And yes, I agree 100% on local organic fresh stuff being the best. We rarely freeze anything besides venison. Everything tastes better fresh.

Lastly, when I worked at Stop & Shop in produce dept. as a teen I would bite a few strawberries and put them at the bottom of the quarts for a surprise for customers. 

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35 minutes ago, Chef said:


Hahaha all of what you said is spot on..

Yes you go to a saputo dairy. I’m using this as example because they are all over NY. For 3 hours in the morning they pack my cheese. Then they change the package and pack for Sysco. When they are done with Sysco they pack US Foods and so on.

Lots of companies re pack that’s normal but silly

As far as farm tours go I have spent lots of time in the Salinas Valley, and yes to all that you said..

Also who knew that pre bagged salads are washed in bleach?

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who in their right mind buys salad in a bag? aren't they always recalled anyway

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I have been raising poultry since I was a kid, everything from Ducks, Geese, Turkeys, Pheasants, Quail and even some Rhea birds, I find it interesting and enjoyable. 

I have messed around with many chicken breeds but my favorites are American gamefowl, they are the best hands down for free ranging. They can not be beat for their beauty, they take care of themselves like no other breed, the Hens are the best at raising and protecting chicks, they are very good eating and lay more than enough eggs for me. The only caveat is mature Roosters need to be kept separated.

Al

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21 hours ago, Jeremy K said:

What's interesting about back yard chickens ,if you don't use or get rid of the eggs you just scramble them up and feed them back to the chickens and that's weird .

You think that's weird? In big commercial laying battery operations they have a vacuum system hooked to each cage and suck out the hens that go into their first molt and run them through a shredder and then that is fed back to the other chickens. Hail the economy of that!

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4 hours ago, airedale said:

I have been raising poultry since I was a kid, everything from Ducks, Geese, Turkeys, Pheasants, Quail and even some Rhea birds, I find it interesting and enjoyable. 

I have messed around with many chicken breeds but my favorites are American gamefowl, they are the best hands down for free ranging. They can not be beat for their beauty, they take care of themselves like no other breed, the Hens are the best at raising and protecting chicks, they are very good eating and lay more than enough eggs for me. The only caveat is mature Roosters need to be kept separated.

Al

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Beautiful

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