Remote kill switches for all vehicles

[Jeremy K]

https://amp.hothardware.com/news/bidens-infrastructure-bill-mandatory-backdoor-car-kill-switch

 

The 1 trillion dollar handout infrastructure bill includes a section that makes it mandatory to have remote kill switch on all vehicles that can be controlled by a third party via the internet . But at least no mean tweets have come up in the new bill.

[Grouse]

And there are people out there who still say that bill was all about fixing roads and bridges.  Will it actually fix any roads or bridges?

[mowin]

Not sure if this is part of bidens infrastructure bill or just some law that's been introduced, but I read somewhere that all new vehicles must be speed limited to states max speeds. 

I just don't see this passing. We all know the State doesn't really give a shit about it citizens, but does care about money coming in and less tickets means less money. 

Edited September 19, 2022 by mowin

[Grouse]

[Jeremy K]

37 minutes ago, mowin said:

Not sure if this is part of bidens infrastructure bill or just some law that's been introduced, but I read somewhere that all new vehicles must be speed limited to states max speeds. 

I just don't see this passing. We all know the State doesn't really give a shit about it citizens, but does care about money coming in and less tickets means less money. 

It was part of the 2400 or so pages in the infrastructure blank checks ...I mean infrastructure bill.

[The_Real_TCIII]

Lets pass it so we can find out whats in it!


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[Dinsdale]

Posts distort infrastructure law’s rule on impaired driving technology; 

CLAIM: President Joe Biden signed a bill that will give law enforcement access to a “kill switch” that will be attached to ALL new cars in 2026.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. While the bipartisan infrastructure bill Biden signed last year requires advanced drunk and impaired driving technology to become standard equipment in new cars, experts say that technology doesn’t amount to a “kill switch,” and nothing in the bill gives law enforcement access to those systems.

From; https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-402773429497

 

{Sorry for the crazy font sizes, tablet has a mind of its own today}

[left field]

1 hour ago, Grouse said:

If you fall asleep in the sun with the tin foil hat on, does it meld to your skull?

Edited September 19, 2022 by left field

[The_Real_TCIII]

2 minutes ago, Dinsdale said:

Posts distort infrastructure law’s rule on impaired driving technology; 

CLAIM: President Joe Biden signed a bill that will give law enforcement access to a “kill switch” that will be attached to ALL new cars in 2026.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. While the bipartisan infrastructure bill Biden signed last year requires advanced drunk and impaired driving technology to become standard equipment in new cars, experts say that technology doesn’t amount to a “kill switch,” and nothing in the bill gives law enforcement access to those systems.

From; https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-402773429497

 

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So they are in fact putting that tech in new cars 

[Dinsdale]

20 minutes ago, The_Real_TCIII said:

So they are in fact putting that tech in new cars 

It funds a bunch of companies to do research on finding a solution, then that has to be incorporated into NTSB directives and then it would be out several years before implementation.

One of my clients in Ct. is involved as an engineering/ hardware supplier to these type systems. Part of it is software technology that analyzes the driver if they are impaired ; same technology is used in other DOD projects. Guy collects Maserati’s; it pays really well.

Theres a ton of testing, the inevitable court cases etc, before this becomes a reality.

[Nomad]

45 minutes ago, left field said:

If you fall asleep in the sun with the tin foil hat on, does it meld to your skull?

If one Is going for accuracy, tin foil was out of production around WWII, replaced by aluminum foil .

[Grouse]

You know Elon Musk was asked to turn off all of the Teslas in Russia when the Ukraine was invaded, right?

He refused.  He didn't say it couldn't be done.

When all upgrades can be uploaded into a car via WiFi, if you don't think the car can be shut off whenever, you are in denial.

Laugh while you can fools.

Edited September 19, 2022 by Grouse

[fasteddie]

57 minutes ago, Nomad said:

If one Is going for accuracy, tin foil was out of production around WWII, replaced by aluminum foil .

Since the price of aluminum has sky rocketed, those aluminum foil hats are going to be pricey .

[Jeremy K]

My favorite is the people who believe it's only to track drunk drivers . 

[Jeremy K]

3 hours ago, The_Real_TCIII said:

So they are in fact putting that tech in new cars 

Yes but it's only for tracking drunk drivers . The government would never use it for any other reason.

[left field]

4 hours ago, Nomad said:

If one Is going for accuracy, tin foil was out of production around WWII, replaced by aluminum foil .

Fair point and thanks for correcting me.

[Dinsdale]

5 hours ago, left field said:

If you fall asleep in the sun with the tin foil hat on, does it meld to your skull?

The problem is a rookie mistake putting the shiny side in versus out.

Happens all the time.

Then theres the issue of name brand vs store brand. Them store brands have chinese microchips in them, and the name brands cia/nsa chips. Pick your poison.

So you really have to make your own.

[left field]

Hunting NY is a wealth of info.

I just got back from Sweden and rented a Volvo. It had this feature on the speedometer that put a red line at the speed limit. It would change the instance you entered a new speed zone. If you went over, it flashed the speed limit at you. Pain in the ass, but Sweden has a zero tolerance for speeding. They can/will fine you for one km over the limit. They also have zero alcohol limit. Designated drivers are a big thing in Sweden.

I got used to it. They're already tracking my phone.

Edited September 19, 2022 by left field

[GreeneHunter]

2 minutes ago, left field said:

Hunting NY is a wealth of info.

I just got back from Sweden and rented a Volvo. It had this feature on the speedometer that put a red line at the speed limit. It would change the instance you entered a new speed zone. If you went over, it flashed the speed limit at you. Pain in the ass, but Sweden has a zero tolerance for speeding. They can/will fine you for one km over the limit. They also have zero alcohol limit. Designated drivers are a big thing in Sweden.

That would probably be nice here but some Dip$hit would most likely scream " Freedom of speeding / drunk driving " !

[left field]

Generally speaking, all good ideas are usually ruined by a screaming dipshit. 

[Jeremy K]

It would be a great idea if it was actually true,the whole3rd party access part is a major red flag .Anyone with even a small amount of street smarts and some kind of ability to recognize trends will tell you enough to be suspicious.

[Bolt action]

I don't hate the idea of cars being able to detect a distracted or impaired driving and either turning on auto pilot or automatically pulling the car over. I'd be open to the idea if the reality made sense on the road. With that said, I don't want the government (or their 3rd party) on the button to deactivate cars based on their objectives and agendas. 

 

As for the price of aluminum going up, I found the solution for those hats...

 

[Nomad]

2 hours ago, left field said:

Hunting NY is a wealth of info.

I just got back from Sweden and rented a Volvo. It had this feature on the speedometer that put a red line at the speed limit. It would change the instance you entered a new speed zone. If you went over, it flashed the speed limit at you. Pain in the ass, but Sweden has a zero tolerance for speeding. They can/will fine you for one km over the limit. They also have zero alcohol limit. Designated drivers are a big thing in Sweden.

I got used to it. They're already tracking my phone.

That’s fine if here they raised the limit by 15 mph or,so on expressways like God and the highway engineers intended. 

[left field]

At first it bugged the hell out of me as I like to drive fast. Then I just went with the flow and since everyone was doing the same speed, we moved very well down the road.

I drive to the city yesterday and in massive traffic with assholes driving a few feet off my bumper and weaving in and out of traffic. To get nowhere. 

Socialism for the win!

Edited September 19, 2022 by left field

[ncountry]

32 minutes ago, Nomad said:

 if here they raised the limit by 15 mph or,so on expressways like God and the highway engineers intended. 

After recently driving back from Colorado through Wyoming , that 80mph speed limit was awesome. It sucked as we got closer and closer to home. Each state seemed to lower the limit by 5mph.