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[stoneam2006]

Buckmaster....how long does that bale of hay last behind your target that's a good idea

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[Buckmaster7600]

I have good vision also hoping lollipop works otherwise new pin it is...do you lollipop your hunting yardage too?

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Yes. It takes some getting used to every weapon I have that isn't scoped is sighted in for a Lolipop hold.


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[Buckmaster7600]

Buckmaster....how long does that bale of hay last behind your target that's a good idea

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I think it's 3 years old now and still stopping em. I get em for free from my cousin that bales all my fields but last I checked you can get a round bale for around 40-50$ use it for 4 or five years then use it for mulch in the garden.


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[stoneam2006]

I think it's 3 years old now and still stopping em. I get em for free from my cousin that bales all my fields but last I checked you can get a round bale for around 40-50$ use it for 4 or five years then use it for mulch in the garden.


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Yea my wifes grandparents own a farm across street hay every year and I help when I can I'm sure I could get one...may have to...

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[moog5050]

First at 22yds

Next at 30

and 22yd group.   One high flier:

[BizCT]

How long does it take someone to be good at 20-30 yards? 50 shots, 100 shots?

I mean someone who never shot before, but was setup with the right equipment etc

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[stoneam2006]

Imo with the right stuff 10 to 30 yards is pretty quick to get confident with. That of course is with someone willing to help get your form right but not bad. Again jmo

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[Buckmaster7600]

How long does it take someone to be good at 20-30 yards? 50 shots, 100 shots?

I mean someone who never shot before, but was setup with the right equipment etc

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That's a loaded question because good is a broad term. With a someone that knows what they are doing and some practice probably 100shots. But on the same note professional sports coaches say it takes 10k times of repetition to become muscle memory.

30yds is a lot big different than 20! If I was starting shooting today and wanted to hunt this season I would put the cap on around 20yds. Many of the guys that know way more about archery than me say shoot out to a distance where you can put 10 shots in a pie plate not all shot at once and take away 1/3 of the distance and that should be your max hunting range.


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[moog5050]

With a compound and sight, you could be proficient at 20yds pretty quickly.  I was an ok shot (5" or less groups) within a few weeks.  Killed my first two deer my first season ever hunting with the bow and bought it in sept.  The first shot wasn't the greatest but that was more nerves.  

Now the bare bow recurve is a whole different story.  Lol

[BizCT]

All makes sense


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[moog5050]

Even though you can become decent in a short time, the real test is when you are ready to shoot a live deer.  The more you ingrain your form, the less likely you will blow it if a B&C comes by.  It should be second nature.   Imo

[stoneam2006]

Even though you can become decent in a short time, the real test is when you are ready to shoot a live deer.  The more you ingrain your form, the less likely you will blow it if a B&C comes by.  It should be second nature.   Imo

That's it right there...the hard part of archery is not the shot but more the control of all motions and having a deer within range usually 30 yards or less. When they are that close its not like a gun it becomes sort of unreal imo everything has to be right from the draw ancor release and follow thru and that's where practice comes in. My nerves get me alot and it's what causes me to miss normally low as I punch the release and drop the bow. Hopefully this year with the extra time and effort I am putting in I can control myself and get thru the nerves.

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[moog5050]

Not to mention that learning when and how to draw on a deer takes experience but I guess you need to be proficient before you get there. 

[phade]

1 hour ago, moog5050 said:

With a compound and sight, you could be proficient at 20yds pretty quickly.  I was an ok shot (5" or less groups) within a few weeks.  Killed my first two deer my first season ever hunting with the bow and bought it in sept.  The first shot wasn't the greatest but that was more nerves.  

Now the bare bow recurve is a whole different story.  Lol

Not for nothing, because I know we (the three of us) give alot of grief about our shooting, but you took to shooting faster than anyone I've met. You are not the 99% on this one so your experience is going to be atypical. Even shooting trad bow right now, you'd outshoot alot of veteran competition trad archers.

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[moog5050]

Was that a compliment Phade?  No more of that now!   Back to breaking my chops. And you will recall deer one since you jumped her coming in to find me when I had no clue what to do next.  Just sitting in my blind with an adrenaline overload.   Lol

[Buckmaster7600]

Even though you can become decent in a short time, the real test is when you are ready to shoot a live deer.  The more you ingrain your form, the less likely you will blow it if a B&C comes by.  It should be second nature.   Imo

BINGO!

The 1 and only deer I have ever wounded with a bow was a year when I got back from Iraq in the middle of September. I practiced for 2 weeks and wounded a doe on oct1. Things can happen and deer can be wounded or missed for many reasons but when 100% of the blame falls on your shoulders it sucks even worse. I said that day that I'll never let that happen again.


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[Doewhacker]

Only had time run out and plunk one shot tonight. Again from 60, hit right where I was holding so I guess I'm done moving the pin. 

[mlammerhirt]

There are different power verifiers(lens) they screw into a threaded peep and help clear up a starbrusting pin, but at the same time while you are looking thru your peep and at your target the target is clear enough to either aim at the kill zone or see rings if shooting in a 3d league


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[The_Real_TCIII]

Verifiers make me nervous for hunting, we get a lot of nasty wet weather

[Buckmaster7600]

Verifiers make me nervous for hunting, we get a lot of nasty wet weather

I like to keep stuff simple and I shoot a huge peep. I had one on a 3D bow once and I couldn't imagine it on a hunting rig.


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[dbHunterNY]

I can't say that the juice would be worth the squeeze on this idea. I understand the "practice" aspect but the deer I want to kill never comes out first he's the one sitting 5yds in and watching me draw therefor changing his plans for the night.

8 or 9 years ago when I was in the service hunting camp Lejeune I had hunted a monster 6pt for 3 months and never got a shot, the week before Xmas I had given up on him a basket 6 that I had let go 20x before walked under me I drew on him and just as I did I heard the unmistakable snotty "blow" of a mature buck looked up and there was my big 6 at 20yds broadside locked on to me when I was trying to shoot the dink. I learned a lot that day.


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It's helped me is all i know. That would suck though. I try to watch out for other deer when drawing. Thats part of not getting busted. It includes other deer around you. If they blow your deer won't be hanging around long and is now going to be on edge. Some super slammers like tom miranda also practice drawing.

[dbHunterNY]

When I get home lately it's usually dark or raining. Basement paper tuning shot tonight. Bare shaft to tell if I'm doing something wrong. Not the conventional picture

[mlammerhirt]

Verifiers make me nervous for hunting, we get a lot of nasty wet weather

If the weather takes a turn for the worst while I am out hunting i van just unscrew the verifier, and hunt without it.
For some reason my contacts just cause to much starbrusting, and I would rather take my chances with the verifier in vs. worrying about precipitation on the lens.

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[dbHunterNY]

10 hours ago, Buckmaster7600 said:

 

 

I like to keep stuff simple and I shoot a huge peep. I had one on a 3D bow once and I couldn't imagine it on a hunting rig.


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I agree.  my hunting bows usually have 1/4" tied in peeps. no tubing or anything else.

[Nomad]

33 paces, one and done .