This *&@#% Weather is Making My Rifle RUST!

[wildcat junkie]

What do you recon I should do now?

Edited October 23, 2016 by wildcat junkie

[Pygmy]

Damn Jap steel !!  << grin>>....

[ny hunter]

wd 40 and fine steel wool.......

[stoneam2006]

Wd or Kroll oil and finest steel wool as said. Need to get a barrier on it.

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

[Larry]

RUSTY DUCK

[wildcat junkie]

I think I'll boil it for a while after supper.

[wildcat junkie]

34 minutes ago, Pygmy said:

Damn Jap steel !!  << grin>>....

GERMAN!

[Travis46]

RE blue it.  not hard to do and cheap

[turkeyfeathers]

That a newer model Remington? 

looks like a little elbow grease going to be needed. Obviously don't need to tell you don't use anything too abrasive 

[Dinsdale]

2 hours ago, wildcat junkie said:

I think I'll boil it for a while after supper.

Sounds like a good idea.

[wildcat junkie]

3 hours ago, wildcat junkie said:

I think I'll boil it for a while after supper.

 

1 hour ago, Dinsdale said:

Sounds like a good idea.

MAUSER SOUP!

How long do you usually cook one of these?

 

 

Hmm I wonder if it's done yet?

 

Stick a fork in it I think it's done!

 

I hope I can get all this rust off!

 

Phew, I hope it doesn't start rusting again! Wouldn't that be awful? 

1 hour ago, Travis46 said:

RE blue it.  not hard to do and cheap

How would I go about that?.  

Edited October 24, 2016 by wildcat junkie

[Travis46]

Check out birchwood Casey perma blue kit.  I'm sure there are YouTube videos showing the process to make the instructions more clear.  it's not as good or as strong as "hot bluing" done by a professional, but better than nothing  

Edited October 24, 2016 by Travis46

[bugsNbows]

Send it off to be Cerakoted??? 

[WNYBuckHunter]

Yep, Cerakote if you are worried about rust. My deer rifle will be getting that treatment after this season.

[ny hunter]

They say that's the best around I well be doing a couple of hand guns this year

[wildcat junkie]

Ok, a few of you caught on right off & I'm sure some others have figured it out by now. I appreciate the helpful advice given on how to prevent future rusting. However, the fact is, the rust is intentional and the damp miserable weather has been a great help in my efforts to apply a "slow rust blue" finish to my rifle.

 

"Rust bluing" is a very desirable finish for several reasons. 

1. It can be applied to firearms that have soft soldered assemblies such as barrels band swivel studs or sights. High end English double barrel shotguns & rifles are rust blued for that very reason since the barrels are soft soldered together to allow precise "regulation" of patterns or POI. Hot tank bluing with salts would attack the solder.
2. It is extremely durable since the finish is micro etched into the surface. It is much more durable than conventional hot tank bluing & vastly more durable than the various "cold" blues.
3. It gives a subtle, rich dark charcoal gray satin finish.
4. It can be done with a minimal amount of investment in tools & supplies. I bought the boiling tank pictured since I have done 2 and intend to do several more firearms. (I didn't know about the steam pipe method either) A stem pipe can be fabricated for about $30 bringing your total investment to less than $50 for the solution & tools.It is not technically difficult, but it takes a lot of time/work over the course of several days.
5. The drawback is the time & effort involved but the satisfaction of a DIY bluing technique that is used on high end firearms that cost 5 or even 5 figure$ makes it all worthwhile.

Below is a link that shows how to fabricate a stream pipe from cheap, easily acquired materials.

http://www.rustblue.com/blog/why-should-you-steam-rather-than-boil/

 

Another link to a tutorial about rust bluing. It is not necessary to use distilled water as I get good results from either my softened or non-softened well water.  The warm box isn't needed in damp either & the parts can be hung in a corner of the bathroom in drier conditions. (an understanding wife/hubbie helps here)

 

Also, Brownells sells their own brand of rust bluing solution that is less than 1/2 the price of the "Pilkingtons". There will be enough solution to do 2 rifles if you don't waste the product.

http://shop.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/metal-prep-coloring/metal-bluing/specialty-bluing-chemicals/classic-rust-blue-sku082000010-22820-48994.aspx?cm_mmc=PPC-_-Itwine-_-Google-_-082-000-010&gclid=CJjT6t2chdACFcEmhgodWhEBQw

 

I took some pictures of the progress of color as the bolt was rusted/boiled/carded. I only had enough solution for 3 cycles, but it came out a nice rich dark charcoal gray.

Since I only wanted to blue the portion of the bolt that was visible behind the rear bridge, I used "frog tape" to protect the polished finish on the rest of the bolt.

This picture is after the 1st rust application. I usually leave the 1st application on for 24 hours to get a good etch into the surface.

 

Small parts are boiled for 30 minutes on top of the stove in a SS kettle. SS allows the kettle to be returned to cooking duties afterward. (again, an understanding significant other helps)

 

Here is what the parts will look like after boiling. They will turn black, but may have a dark chocolate brown appearance sometimes. Do not be concerned as the metal will not be brown under the surface once the film is carded off.

 

This is how the bolt looked after 1 "cycle". Notice it has taken on a medium gray color. (The bolt knob is the easiest place to gauge the color change)

 

On the second rust cycle, I reduce the rust time to 12 hours to prevent pitting.

 

Note the deeper gray color after carding the 2nd rust/boil.

 

The 3rd rust cycle.

 

And the darker color that results. I would have done another cycle or 2 but I was running out of solution & time. It is still a very deep charcoal gray under natural light.

 

The competed bolt assembly with the Dakota Arms 3-position Model 70 type safety.

[wildcat junkie]

The completed project can be seen here.

https://huntingny.com/forums/forum/41-guns-and-rifles-and-discussions/

 

[moog5050]

That's impressive!

[stoneam2006]

Wow that's cool

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

[wildcat junkie]

13 hours ago, wildcat junkie said:

The completed project can be seen here.

https://huntingny.com/forums/forum/41-guns-and-rifles-and-discussions/

 

Oops, I posted the wrong link. here is the completed project.