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8 minutes ago, OtiscoPaul said:

If you aren't in the stand as systems collide you are missing out...don't have to shoot when it's pouring...I don't see them as much then anyway, but after it breaks!

I watch the systems and fronts and try to hunt accordingly but I am not staying out getting soaked. I will wait another day. I am out there to have fun & enjoy not to battle the elements. I don't "need" to kill a deer.

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I couldn't agree more. Bowhunting is about getting real close to your prey in my opinion. I would only switch to a crossbow if I can't shoot my bow anymore,and that is a long time off I hope.

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14 minutes ago, Steve D said:

I watch the systems and fronts and try to hunt accordingly but I am not staying out getting soaked. I will wait another day. I am out there to have fun & enjoy not to battle the elements. I don't "need" to kill a deer.

I don't need to kill a deer either the elements don't bother me much and I wear appropriate gear, wet is good for me 35 & above better than hot...and I'll hunt and ski all day dry 0-20* snow and wind no problem, I enjoy it.  

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6 minutes ago, OtiscoPaul said:

35 & above better than hot...and I'll hunt and ski all day dry 0-20* snow and wind no problem, I enjoy it

I agree and also have spent a day skiing in cold temperatures but being wet does absolutely nothing for me. Some of the most miserable times hunting were coming home drying out clothes, stripping down guns to dry, clean & oil. etc.

The only other thing worse than bow hunting in the rain is trapping in the rain. I will run traps in the rain & not like it but I am not getting the Mathews wet!!

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4 minutes ago, Steve D said:

I agree and also have spent a day skiing in cold temperatures but being wet does absolutely nothing for me. Some of the most miserable times hunting were coming home drying out clothes, stripping down guns to dry, clean & oil. etc.

The only other thing worse than bow hunting in the rain is trapping in the rain. I will run traps in the rain & not like it but I am not getting the Mathews wet!!

Well I can tell you I was dry today but it was basically just living in a cloud at 2000ft not a pour down.

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26 minutes ago, OtiscoPaul said:

My experience is anything less than a downpour tends to dilute/spread blood trails but not wash them away...can actually help a little in a pin drop trail.

If you aren't in the stand as systems collide you are missing out...don't have to shoot when it's pouring...I don't see them as much then anyway, but after it breaks, gotta pay to play!

Like any other factor considerate it in your shot selection, ethical range, etc.

 

i watch the weather,  I am not missing out on anything but a possible washed out blood trail. this isn't my first rodeo in bow hunting nor tracking deer, I think I do ok bowhunting. 

I only take high percentage shots and they are close, but as I said ANYONE can make a bad hit because you are not shooting at a stationary 3d target, you are shooting at a live animal with an unbelievable will to survive things happen and they can do some unbelievable things after being fatally shot.

 

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5 minutes ago, Steve D said:

Good for you now read my lips: I am NOT bow hunting in the rain. If you choose to God Bless ya and have fun ....but I am not.

This is a message board...so I'll take you by your written statement.

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37 minutes ago, wolc123 said:

I use to think the same thing about rain, however I picked up a night time blood tracking product called bloodglow that is supposed to work even better in the rain.  You mix it with water and it makes blood glow bright green in the dark under the star and moonlight.  Now I hunt right up to sunset even in the pouring rain (with my crossbow during the open part of the season, from a covered blind).  During archery season, the action is usually best right before sunset, so why not take advantage of a little modern CSI technology to hunt that time, regardless of weather ?   

My first crossbow hunt this year will be Friday, up in the northern zone, and I think there is a chance of rain.  On one hand, I am hoping any deer I hit will drop dead in sight or close enough to hear crash, as they all have so far.  On the other hand, I would really like to get a chance to see if that bloodglow works like it is supposed to.  

your response does not surprise me at all,,,,,so you have had this almighty "SCI bloodglow" stuff for how long? and you have shot how many deer since acquiring the blood glow stuff?  so why have you not mixed up a batch and tested it out on an already recovered deers blood trail so you KNOW how it works? just because the packaging says it works doesn't mean it does as it says.

like i have said many times in the past, you keep stacking the odds against yourself eventually your luck is going to run out. I will rely on my skills and experience not rely on modern csi technology to have to bail me out.

 

 

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16 minutes ago, reeltime said:

i watch the weather,  I am not missing out on anything but a possible washed out blood trail. this isn't my first rodeo in bow hunting nor tracking deer, I think I do ok bowhunting. 

I only take high percentage shots and they are close, but as I said ANYONE can make a bad hit because you are not shooting at a stationary 3d target, you are shooting at a live animal with an unbelievable will to survive things happen and they can do some unbelievable things after being fatally shot.

 

As I said just because I'm sitting in the stand when it rains doesnt mean I throw my ethics out the window...

It adds factors to consider in my shot selection (as in whether I shoot or not) etc, and yeah beyond that if something goes wrong that can happen anytime so you do your best to avoid errors and learn from the ones you make.

If you're worried about preserving a 150 yard blood trail or longer your shot selection credo is not as good as you think. If you are opposed to hunting in the rain don't do it.

I have found well hit deer with little blood just by seeing that the trail was recently used.  

Also why bash a product you've never used...dude didn't say it would find his deer for him he said he'd like to see if it works.

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5 minutes ago, OtiscoPaul said:

If you're worried about preserving a 150 yard blood trail or longer your shot selection credo is not as good as you think. If you are opposed to hunting in the rain don't do it.

i don't hunt in the rain, if you want to thats your choice as well. 

as far as the first sentence....ummmm thats pretty funny right there especially considering you don't even know me. lol.

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4 minutes ago, reeltime said:

i don't hunt in the rain, if you want to thats your choice as well. 

as far as the first sentence....ummmm thats pretty funny right there especially considering you don't even know me. lol.

Hunt how you want you threw out the ethics card I just assumed you were afraid of losing a long blood trail to the rain...I try to keep them down in sight DRT.

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24 minutes ago, OtiscoPaul said:

As I said just because I'm sitting in the stand when it rains doesnt mean I throw my ethics out the window...

 

Also why bash a product you've never used...dude didn't say it would find his deer for him he said he'd like to see if it works.

I never said a word about ethics. 

I didn't "bash" any product,  we have been hearing about the almighty csi blood glow for well over a year but yet even though he has killed deer he is still waiting for the opportunity to use it,  I simply asked why he didn't mix a batch up on a recovered deers blood trail and try it so its KNOWN whether it works not waiting till its "needed" to find out it does not work as advertised.

 

Im done with this,  my apologies to DOC for trashing his thread.   

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41 minutes ago, reeltime said:

your response does not surprise me at all,,,,,so you have had this almighty "SCI bloodglow" stuff for how long? and you have shot how many deer since acquiring the blood glow stuff?  so why have you not mixed up a batch and tested it out on an already recovered deers blood trail so you KNOW how it works? just because the packaging says it works doesn't mean it does as it says.

like i have said many times in the past, you keep stacking the odds against yourself eventually your luck is going to run out. I will rely on my skills and experience not rely on modern csi technology to have to bail me out.

 

 

You come across as bitter and frustrated.  Let it go, for it is kind of like drinking poison, the only one you are hurting is yourself.

I have shot and killed (6) deer since getting the bloodglow, 3 years ago, and all have dropped in sight or close enough to hear crash.  

I don't count on "luck" to recover my deer, but I do rely on my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.  He is the one who has the final say where all living things wind up.  I suggest you do the same, if you are not already.  Woodsmanship will only get you so far in life.  He will get you all the way to Heaven someday.   He has also managed to put every deer that I have shot at over the last 12 years into "deer Heaven" (my family and friend's food supply), and that is a nice side- benefit.  I hope you are feelin better soon and continue to have many more successful hunts.  

As far as using the bloodglow on a deer when it is not needed, I don't have the spare cash for that.  If I did I would rather toss it in the collection plate at Church.    

    

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This took a weird turn, I'm with some others I'm not bow hunting in much rain at all, unless I'm still hunting. I don't know how anyone in this world can just sit there and get rained on. If I'm still hunting it doesn't bother me much but I'm still not hunting in a downpour.


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A huge percentage of the weather in bowseason consists of overcast, partially drippy weather. Whenever you see that graphic on the forecast that shows the little cloud with drops of water shown underneath, that does not mean that a deluge will begin in the morning and continue until dark. In fact most of the time it is indicating that there will be a chance for brief isolated showers some time during the day. So those that roll over and go back to sleep simply because a potential brief shower is predicted at some point in the day is basically throwing away a huge percentage of the season each year. And of course the opposite can happen too where the chances of rain are under-predicted. So it is entirely possible that you will find yourself surprised on stand by one of these brief isolated showers, or something a lot more substantial. So there is no doubt that rain gear will figure into your hunting at some point in the season if you intend to maximize the opportunities. And if you are out there on one of these normal questionable days, you will likely be wearing some form of rain gear. If you are wearing rain ear, it is important to spend some time on the practice range shooting with it on.

That is why I asked the question regarding choices of rain gear for bow hunting. I am still interested in what those choices are based on function, and lack of interference issues and minimum noise. I don't really care who only goes out on bluebird sunny days only, or who shoots crossbows, or any of those other unrelated issues. Quite simply, what rain gear do you use that serves your bowhunting the best?

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10 hours ago, reeltime said:

i will not bow hunt in the rain, I take only high percentage close shots and even with that I have had several deer take a partial step between the time my brain says release and my fingers respond thus going from a lung shot to liver shot.

What you do after the shot WILL dictate the outcome, you make a bad shot and its raining you have 2 choices either get down and follow/chase the animal or walk away and hope it only goes a short distance and dies and you can find it via grid searching because with rain you are going to have little to no blood to follow.

 

for me there is no way I am taking an avoidable loss possibility shot because of rain.

 

Thanks for apologizing for hijacking the rain gear thread with your "rain hunting is bad ethics because..." statement.  Cuz you did.

If you ever want to try it (you might not even melt buckmaster) come back to this thread for some good advice.  

To Review:

I'm happy with Kryptec did not like Badlands.

 

 

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Thanks for apologizing for hijacking the rain gear thread with your "rain hunting is bad ethics because..." statement.  Cuz you did.
If you ever want to try it (you might not even melt buckmaster) come back to this thread for some good advice.  
To Review:
I'm happy with Kryptec did not like Badlands.
 
 

Given that I almost never sit it's unlikely.


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Just now, Buckmaster7600 said:


Given that I almost never sit it's unlikely.


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I was gonna mention that too..lol, just bustin balls.

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 If it's raining hard enough to need a rain coat I am not hunting! To many things to go wrong. On a good day blood can be hard to find on the leaves! Gun is a different story but then you don't have all the sound issues either.

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7 minutes ago, biggamefish said:

 If it's raining hard enough to need a rain coat I am not hunting! To many things to go wrong. On a good day blood can be hard to find on the leaves! Gun is a different story but then you don't have all the sound issues either.

We just went through this...that is a fine ethical choice for you and we are not talking about sitting out in all day deluges to make poor shots on deer.

Sometimes you get wet...do you have gear that helps, why/how is or isn't it suited for bow?

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16 hours ago, BowmanMike said:

Wool will keep you dry for a good while. 

And you are not supposed to bowhunt in the rain,remember?

 

Same with fleece real and synthetic.

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49 minutes ago, Doc said:

A huge percentage of the weather in bowseason consists of overcast, partially drippy weather. Whenever you see that graphic on the forecast that shows the little cloud with drops of water shown underneath, that does not mean that a deluge will begin in the morning and continue until dark. In fact most of the time it is indicating that there will be a chance for brief isolated showers some time during the day. So those that roll over and go back to sleep simply because a potential brief shower is predicted at some point in the day is basically throwing away a huge percentage of the season each year. And of course the opposite can happen too where the chances of rain are under-predicted. So it is entirely possible that you will find yourself surprised on stand by one of these brief isolated showers, or something a lot more substantial. So there is no doubt that rain gear will figure into your hunting at some point in the season if you intend to maximize the opportunities. And if you are out there on one of these normal questionable days, you will likely be wearing some form of rain gear. If you are wearing rain ear, it is important to spend some time on the practice range shooting with it on.

That is why I asked the question regarding choices of rain gear for bow hunting. I am still interested in what those choices are based on function, and lack of interference issues and minimum noise. I don't really care who only goes out on bluebird sunny days only, or who shoots crossbows, or any of those other unrelated issues. Quite simply, what rain gear do you use that serves your bowhunting the best?

If your in stand I would recommend one of those tree umbrellas. I use mine whenever it dribbles to downpours. It takes about 2 minutes to setup and I can angle the umbrella any direction the rain is coming from. Here is a photo of mine it works well and as you can see blends in well. They can also double as a blind if you ground hunt.59df5c3d1bc15_TreeUmbrealla.thumb.jpg.8eef89ef679c65581e61e37cb2b41ee6.jpg

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