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I scouted a new spot on state land for opening day. I got in there an hour before light. All set up, it starts getting light I see movement, unfortunately it is 2 legs not 4. I wave to the guy thinking he'll see me and walk away. He keeps coming following my tracks with a stupid look on his face. Walks right to me and says " I hope you don't mind company , I have a chair stashed over there and I've hunted here for 20 yrs." I said its first come first served. He said state land your we welcome to stay I'll be over there. DB

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On ‎11‎/‎19‎/‎2018 at 1:49 PM, The_Field_Ager said:

And people complain about private land hunters keeping their plots for family and friends. There is good reason for this. People, by and large, are ass-hats today. 

Not just today, this kind of nonsense has been going on since I started hunting 45 years ago.

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This is just one reason I will NEVER hunt public land.  I'll sooner give up hunting completely than have to deal with any of this type of nonsense.  I will add, that it can happen on private land too, but generally is much less likely.  It seems like most issues on private land happen when neighbors start challenging each other by setting up stands on property borders.  If neighbors can stay away from that, things should be fine.

I will also agree with Uncle Nicky's post 100%.  You could go back eons and you'd find similar and even worse hunter vs. hunter situations.  This type of behavior wasn't discovered last week, I can assure you!

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Sure, even on public land, we try to do some serious scouting and usually pick out a spot as being pretty darn likely to be the best spot in the area. We know what kind of sign we are looking for, and eventually get convinced that some rather intensive scouting has produced THE spot. And yes it happens that the same sign and deer activity has caught the attention of other hunters. That is why these confrontations can frequently occur. We put our entire opening day strategy on a single spot and when someone beats you there, it can be devastating. That is why I put in extra effort and develop several spots. It means extra scouting and more time invested, but often it will result in more options so that if someone beat you to that primary hot-spot, you have three or four other places to set up at.

There  really is nothing you can do to effectively reserve a spot on state land, so instead of trying to bully another hunter out of his stand, put in some extra effort and have good alternate options.

I have had situations where other hunters set up in what I consider to be unsafe proximity, and I have moved because I am concerned. Perhaps that was their intention, but I see those kind of people to be potentially irrational idiots that I really don't feel comfortable hunting that close to. Again, alternate stands are a good option. I don't want to even see another hunter because if I can see them (even as a tiny orange color), that means to me that there is a hole for a bullet to get to me. That's too close for me.

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I no longer hunt public land during gun season for all the reasons mentioned above.  Add to that the large deer drives with somewhat drunk hunters telling us we had to move because they would be driving the woods with 20 guys.  But, I lived in Central Pa for 6 years and hunted the Game Lands.  Trust me, that is a whole different level of scary!  

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I agree 100 percent with DOC. In NY, I have a good 10 hotspots at Stewart State Forest. Another 8 or so at Sterling Forest. And one spot on open unposted land.   I don't have the money to own or lease my own private land and can't get a (yes) to hunt-- so Public Land is it for me along with an army of others.   I just get in 1 mile and sometimes hang up an orange hat somewhere behind me if, I am close to a May Roost

.  Still-- with all that, I might have company. And leaving a Gobbling Tom is something that few guys will do-- even if they arrive 2nd. If the hunter won't leave after, I shine my flashlight back at Jim--- I yell out HUNTER. This alerts the Gobbler . I soon leave the area and make a racket doing so and find another bird.

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I agree 100 percent with DOC. In NY, I have a good 10 hotspots at Stewart State Forest. Another 8 or so at Sterling Forest. And one spot on open unposted land.   I don't have the money to own or lease my own private land and can't get a (yes) to hunt-- so Public Land is it for me along with an army of others.   I just get in 1 mile and sometimes hang up an orange hat somewhere behind me if, I am close to a May Roost
.  Still-- with all that, I might have company. And leaving a Gobbling Tom is something that few guys will do-- even if they arrive 2nd. If the hunter won't leave after, I shine my flashlight back at Jim--- I yell out HUNTER. This alerts the Gobbler . I soon leave the area and make a racket doing so and find another bird.

What does “open unposted land” mean?


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Wow. I heard stories of land like this from some of the old timers in our party- pull off on the side of route 17 and just start hunting rabbits, birds, etc. I am just surprised land opportunities still exist like that today.

I am also surprised that the local municipalities didn’t slap some town ordinance banning hunting or claiming it a “safe space” for hikers and the like.


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6 hours ago, crappyice said:

Wow. I heard stories of land like this from some of the old timers in our party- pull off on the side of route 17 and just start hunting rabbits, birds, etc. I am just surprised land opportunities still exist like that today.

I am also surprised that the local municipalities didn’t slap some town ordinance banning hunting or claiming it a “safe space” for hikers and the like.


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It's the southern tier people like to hunt if it was around a liberal city it would be banned 

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27 minutes ago, crappyice said:


Sterling is about 45 minutes from my house and about the same to the city- I assume the other properties is close to that range.


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I forgot exactly where this place was now someplace in 3j  I friend took me there one time  to hunt Turkey about 20 years ago 

Was just abandoned land i think that everyone around new about that people hunted .

Place was a mess  lots of trash   junk where everyone parked  I remember .  Then I have been to others that are kepted natural no trash junk around .

 

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