First-light 4201 Posted November 19, 2018 I have shot deer through the neck pretty much brigs them right down. This was the case with the buck I shot this weekend. He was a big 2.5 year old. Took him at 100 yards 1187 with lightfield slugs. He was broadside but neck turned looking in my direction. The slug entered half way down the neck 1.5 inches from the bottom side of the neck. There is no exit hole. I'm asking myself what I hit to bring him down like that? Did it change direction and go up to the brain or down. I'll ask the guys who skin him but it has me baffled. Deer dropped in his tracks and died in about 7 minutes. Let me know what you think. 4 Quote "We Feed 'em" "He Breeds 'em" Legends Lodge, "Where Legends are born" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engraver99 365 Posted November 19, 2018 Lightfield slugs.....baddest slugs on the planet. Never had a deer take another step when hit with those bad boys. I hit one with lightfields years ago but coming straight at me. Vitals were jelly and found zlug about 2 feet in against the skin on it side. Lightffields were made a few miles from me when i livef in jersey. Been using fhem since about 97. Wish i was usi g my slug gun opening day when i missed an 8 in brush with my 06. Congrats on the buck..nice shot! 1 Quote NRA Life Member Buckmaster's Life Member Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First-light 4201 Posted November 19, 2018 8 minutes ago, Engraver99 said: Lightfield slugs.....baddest slugs on the planet. Never had a deer take another step when hit with those bad boys. I hit one with lightfields years ago but coming straight at me. Vitals were jelly and found zlug about 2 feet in against the skin on it side. Lightffields were made a few miles from me when i livef in jersey. Been using fhem since about 97. Wish i was usi g my slug gun opening day when i missed an 8 in brush with my 06. Congrats on the buck..nice shot! Thanks bud they are awesome! Quote "We Feed 'em" "He Breeds 'em" Legends Lodge, "Where Legends are born" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpkot 1717 Posted November 19, 2018 usually when they drop instantly you did something to the central nervous system. My bet is the spinal cord somewhere. 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First-light 4201 Posted November 19, 2018 4 minutes ago, kpkot said: usually when they drop instantly you did something to the central nervous system. My bet is the spinal cord somewhere. Right but my shot was not high in the neck. It was 1.5 inches from the bottom end. Quote "We Feed 'em" "He Breeds 'em" Legends Lodge, "Where Legends are born" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunter007 2515 Posted November 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, First-light said: Right but my shot was not high in the neck. It was 1.5 inches from the bottom end. Hydrostatic shock probably 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kpkot 1717 Posted November 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, First-light said: Right but my shot was not high in the neck. It was 1.5 inches from the bottom end. I understand, but they dont just drop without that trauma to the CNS. bullet may have entered and traveled? We would have to see shot placement, angle, distance maybe to get a true sense of the shot. regardless nice deer congrats. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First-light 4201 Posted November 19, 2018 (edited) Here is the placement. It was the other side though. No exit hole 100 yards. Edited November 19, 2018 by First-light Quote "We Feed 'em" "He Breeds 'em" Legends Lodge, "Where Legends are born" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pygmy 15039 Posted November 19, 2018 Definitely hit the spine..Probably at the base of the neck, where it joins the shoulders and everything comes together... One of my hunting buddies, who grew up in Pa, always shoots his deer right there, because he wants them to go STRAIGHT DOWN, avoiding the deer running 50- 75 yards and perhaps being claimed by another hunter in the crowded PA woods of the 60s and 70s.. He calls it the SWEET SPOT.. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First-light 4201 Posted November 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, kpkot said: I understand, but they dont just drop without that trauma to the CNS. bullet may have entered and traveled? We would have to see shot placement, angle, distance maybe to get a true sense of the shot. regardless nice deer congrats. I have a feeling you are right. Trauma brought him down and the bullet went into cavity. Once I got to the lungs and heart a ton of blood pooled out. 1 Quote "We Feed 'em" "He Breeds 'em" Legends Lodge, "Where Legends are born" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the blur 171 Posted November 19, 2018 Hydrolic shock.... or something like that. It's the energy that is transferred from the projectile, to the mass. Like a giant shockwave. I read a few articles on it. I forget the exact name, or terminology, but speed kills... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CapDistPatriot 322 Posted November 19, 2018 Nice thing about that shot, besides not having to track it, is it doesn't ruin a lot of meat. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JRod 8G8H 398 Posted November 19, 2018 if it hit bone it will sublux, dislocate, and shatter into the spinal cord.. if this happens the trauma will cause the nervous system to shut down major organs such as the diaphragm first.. if it hit blood vessels such as a carotid arteries or jugular or brachiocephalic veins depending on the angle etc the deer probably died from hypovolemic shock... yes i am a doctor and i have shot deer in the neck it's usually lights out with my 30-06... lol 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbHunterNY 5192 Posted November 19, 2018 28 minutes ago, CapDistPatriot said: Nice thing about that shot, besides not having to track it, is it doesn't ruin a lot of meat. depends on the deer. a good buck you'll get a 10 lb neck roast. a bigger buck it'll be closer to a 17lb neck roast. seems like there's a lot of garbage connective tissue in there but it renders down or can be separated out easily if cooked a certain way. ton of good flavor in portions of neck meat. most just grind it up though. 1 Quote --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Upper Hudson River Valley QDMA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbHunterNY 5192 Posted November 19, 2018 hunters don't realize the spine dips lower at the base of the neck. doesn't run right along the top back of it's neck you know of and see. not saying it's where you hit at all. just saying it's closer. a slug with no exit hole is a lot of energy that's dissipated in the deer which causes lots of shock and terminal damage. Quote --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Upper Hudson River Valley QDMA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CapDistPatriot 322 Posted November 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, dbHunterNY said: hunters don't realize the spine dips lower at the base of the neck. doesn't run right along the top back of it's neck you know of and see. not saying it's where you hit at all. just saying it's closer. a slug with no exit hole is a lot of energy that's dissipated in the deer which causes lots of shock and terminal damage. I have never even thought about shooting there. Would it be a fool's errand to try a rifle shot there with a fast moving bullet? I shoot 7mm-.08 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turkeyfeathers 35525 Posted November 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, CapDistPatriot said: I have never even thought about shooting there. Would it be a fool's errand to try a rifle shot there with a fast moving bullet? I shoot 7mm-.08 If shooting that 7mm and that's an accurate round I'd go for the boiler room. Watched my buddy shoot 3 doe in about 9 minutes last night from 150 yards. One bang flopped, one went 15 yards and one 20 yards My guess is a slug like a Lightfield is dumping more energy too 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dbHunterNY 5192 Posted November 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, CapDistPatriot said: I have never even thought about shooting there. Would it be a fool's errand to try a rifle shot there with a fast moving bullet? I shoot 7mm-.08 people do it but it's a smaller target and not a guarantee in my mind. vitals are vitals and that's what i always aim for. head shot is technically a vital and despite i've done it in the past i don't do it. even less margin for error there and i wouldn't want to take off a jaw and have the deer suffer. 1 Quote --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Upper Hudson River Valley QDMA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
helmut in the bush 1273 Posted November 19, 2018 Good shot 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
First-light 4201 Posted November 19, 2018 The guy who capped it said he found the slug on the other side of the neck didn't exit. Must of been shock that brought him down. I thought a few times he was getting up with leg movement but just stayed put. Deer is a hog with plenty of meat.! Quote "We Feed 'em" "He Breeds 'em" Legends Lodge, "Where Legends are born" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turkeyfeathers 35525 Posted November 19, 2018 I think all the deer I've shot with Lightfields have never punched 2 holes. Most barely moved after getting hit. They dump a ton of energy Some guys want 2 holes,. Why when I don't have to track to a piled up deer. 3 years in a row I found the sabot tucked under the skin of opposite shoulder One was a 3" at about 25 feet. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nytracker 2153 Posted November 19, 2018 I like the neck shot . My gramps taught me that it was the best shot on a standing deer . No major loss of meat and drops them right there. Grams however loved the neck roast and usually gave him heck. I personally pick an imaginary line just in front of the shoulders where the neck starts. This also works on boar with devastating effect. Alot of vitals packed in a small area . Plus the pictures are prettier than a head shot. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chrisw 5356 Posted November 20, 2018 I've never advocated neck shots, when executed perfectly they work well but I have also seen deer alive for a long time after being hit in the neck. I've tracked deer for buddies that hit a deer in the meat off the neck and they went a mile, some found, some not. I just don't understand why it makes any sense to aim there? It's not even half the size of the heart lung area and Yea so if done perfect they drop, but how far does a deer run with a double lung hit? 50yds? I think I'll take the 150% bigger vital area and walk a few extra yards to claim my deer. Hell, I know guys that have dropped deer with a neck shot only to have them get back up and run off to never be seen again. IMO, don't shoot for the neck or head. Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nybuckboy 711 Posted November 20, 2018 my father always shot the neck with a 16 gauge Quote A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chas0218 1364 Posted November 20, 2018 Shot almost all my gun deer in the neck all have ranged where but from a .243 to 20 gauge. None took another step after the shot. Shot a doe this weekend in the boiler room went 70 yards and piled. Below is the blood trail. Easy to track and next to no meat ruined. First deer i shot in the vitals since i was 16 when i got my first 6 point with the old 20 gauge. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites