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On 5/10/2019 at 12:13 PM, Belo said:

20 gauge at 40 yards is a decent poke my man. heck i'm shooting 3.5" mags out of a 12 lol.

I build my own turkey loads.. My 20 patterns better than my 3.5" 12ga and that thing patterns well too. Heres my pattern board at 40 from one of my 20ga thats a 10" (partial)circle lol

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2 hours ago, LET EM GROW said:

I build my own turkey loads.. My 20 patterns better than my 3.5" 12ga and that thing patterns well too. Heres my pattern board at 40 from one of my 20ga thats a 10" (partial)circle lol

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I think this is an interesting website to play around with

http://patternboard.winchester.com/#/compare/

if you compare a #5 winchester double XR load 3.5" 12 gauge load vs a 3" 20 gauge load, the velocities are the same but the pellets within 10" @ 40 yards basically double. @ 20 yards they more than double. Both are killing machines. Like I said earlier, i think it's up to the hunters comfort.

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2 hours ago, Cabin Fever said:

Not a peep yet... Finally a morning with no rain, so I was hoping they would be vocal and feeling frisky.

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good luck Bob. I'll be in your shoes tomorrow and I'm hoping the break in rain will get them out too

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 Well , I am home now and having Farina. Getting ready to try Sterling Forest in a bit. Round 1 went to a Wary Gobbler on another Chuck of Public Land. I called up a Gobbler to 40 yards on my 10 o'clock.  He saw me move though at the wrong moment. Putt-Putt- Putt.  Walked off  fast. I called that Tom up from 100 yards+ with the late Season 3 Note Yelps and Deadly Clucks + Purrs.  Only Mid Season though.

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44 minutes ago, ODYSSEUS said:

 Well , I am home now and having Farina. Getting ready to try Sterling Forest in a bit. Round 1 went to a Wary Gobbler on another Chuck of Public Land. I called up a Gobbler to 40 yards on my 10 o'clock.  He saw me move though at the wrong moment. Putt-Putt- Putt.  Walked off  fast. I called that Tom up from 100 yards+ with the late Season 3 Note Yelps and Deadly Clucks + Purrs.  Only Mid Season though.

Farina??? God gave me flashbacks of that crap as a kid. My mom always made that for us before school. 

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1 hour ago, Belo said:

I think this is an interesting website to play around with

http://patternboard.winchester.com/#/compare/

if you compare a #5 winchester double XR load 3.5" 12 gauge load vs a 3" 20 gauge load, the velocities are the same but the pellets within 10" @ 40 yards basically double. @ 20 yards they more than double. Both are killing machines. Like I said earlier, i think it's up to the hunters comfort.

It is interesting, and fun to play around with for sure! I dont really believe much of those pattern tests at ranges beyond 40yards. Even though they say they are based off actual real life testing. Before i made my own handloads with tungsten.. i swore by winchester loads, specifically the Longbead XR, The Winchester high velocity, and the ole Extended Range shells, never liked double x shells. These 3 shot well out of many 12ga guns we shot with several different chokes. Tight to more open constriction. That Pattern board is calling out some insane pellet strike numbers. I have a few pics I could show from my Winchester loads throughout the years, that do not come close to matching these.

Here is a 12ga 3" 2oz handload of 8s that shot pretty well, 285 for 1 choke, 300 for the other choke.  And i could even make them better if i played around with it more.. It shoots within a dozen hits as the 20 gauge does more or less..  @ 40 yards. BUT the 20 ga load is only a 1-5/8oz where the 12 gauge is a 2oz load. Not starting argument just showing real life results through my trials and errors lol. You are completely right though, its up the hunters comfort, and hope that they have a respectable range they will not shoot past..

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If i didnt have to take friday off for my son, Id have taken today off.. Its a beautiful morning to chase birds.. and people who did hunt today are proving that on social media lol. 

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For those of you that make your own tungsten shot, how much would you say you spend per shell now that you load it yourself? It’s getting a little old spending 5+ dollars a shell.


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 Well , I am home now and having Farina. Getting ready to try Sterling Forest in a bit. Round 1 went to a Wary Gobbler on another Chuck of Public Land. I called up a Gobbler to 40 yards on my 10 o'clock.  He saw me move though at the wrong moment. Putt-Putt- Putt.  Walked off  fast. I called that Tom up from 100 yards+ with the late Season 3 Note Yelps and Deadly Clucks + Purrs.  Only Mid Season though.

My 10oclock is the perfect shot as a right hander


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18 minutes ago, ATbuckhunter said:

For those of you that make your own tungsten shot, how much would you say you spend per shell now that you load it yourself? It’s getting a little old spending 5+ dollars a shell.


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The shot is on average around $50/lb. Some recipes are simple, some are more intricate.. it all depends on the recipe.. I dont want to give out anymore info since everything is confidential. Its not cheap lets just put it that way... id stick with 5$ shells if its about spending money 

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4 minutes ago, LET EM GROW said:

The shot is on average around $50/lb. Some recipes are simple, some are more intricate.. it all depends on the recipe.. I dont want to give out anymore info since everything is confidential. Its not cheap lets just put it that way... id stick with 5$ shells if its about spending money 

I figured it wasnt cheap, especially when you add the cost of buying everything. Ill stick to the 5 bucks a shell then

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1 hour ago, LET EM GROW said:

It is interesting, and fun to play around with for sure! I dont really believe much of those pattern tests at ranges beyond 40yards. Even though they say they are based off actual real life testing. Before i made my own handloads with tungsten.. i swore by winchester loads, specifically the Longbead XR, The Winchester high velocity, and the ole Extended Range shells, never liked double x shells. These 3 shot well out of many 12ga guns we shot with several different chokes. Tight to more open constriction. That Pattern board is calling out some insane pellet strike numbers. I have a few pics I could show from my Winchester loads throughout the years, that do not come close to matching these.

Here is a 12ga 3" 2oz handload of 8s that shot pretty well, 285 for 1 choke, 300 for the other choke.  And i could even make them better if i played around with it more.. It shoots within a dozen hits as the 20 gauge does more or less..  @ 40 yards. BUT the 20 ga load is only a 1-5/8oz where the 12 gauge is a 2oz load. Not starting argument just showing real life results through my trials and errors lol. You are completely right though, its up the hunters comfort, and hope that they have a respectable range they will not shoot past..

 

yeah i'd take their numbers with a grain of salt for sure, but it was a good tool to illustrate what you're really getting with that extra kick to your shoulder.

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17 minutes ago, ATbuckhunter said:

I figured it wasnt cheap, especially when you add the cost of buying everything. Ill stick to the 5 bucks a shell then

i've said this in a few other spots, but $5 a shell and maybe 2 or 3 shots a season is a small amount of money when you consider the time, effort and other expenses that go into turkey hunting. Heck I spent more money on the bacon that i wrapped my turkey in for the smoker than the $5 hevi-13 shell I used to kill him.

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16 minutes ago, Belo said:

yeah i'd take their numbers with a grain of salt for sure, but it was a good tool to illustrate what you're really getting with that extra kick to your shoulder.

Yes sir. Agreed.

 

14 minutes ago, Belo said:

i've said this in a few other spots, but $5 a shell and maybe 2 or 3 shots a season is a small amount of money when you consider the time, effort and other expenses that go into turkey hunting. Heck I spent more money on the bacon that i wrapped my turkey in for the smoker than the $5 hevi-13 shell I used to kill him.

You nailed it, ive said that for years. lol 

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54 minutes ago, ATbuckhunter said:

For those of you that make your own tungsten shot, how much would you say you spend per shell now that you load it yourself? It’s getting a little old spending 5+ dollars a shell.


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$5 per store bought tss ? More like $9-10

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I did not see  or hear any  turkey but jumped a deer . Weather was awesome!! perfect  nice and cool not to many bugs out this morning.  

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22 minutes ago, moog5050 said:

I save a lot of money on shells when hunting Turkey.  PM me for my secret!

That's a good one!  I've had the same box of 10 shells for the last 15 years, so I haven't spent much money either.  I have 9 left.  The one shell I shot was just because I wanted to check to see if the gun still works.  LOL

 

 

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1 hour ago, turkeyfeathers said:

$5 per store bought tss ? More like $9-10

I was just talking about Hevi shot. Tss i knew was too expensive for me to think about using lol. I heard handloads of TSS is over 5 a shell. 

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1 hour ago, ODYSSEUS said:

Keep going Storm! Those woods look good. Birds are there being quiet.

Seen 20 turkey cross that very trail at about that spot last day of deer season  last year .

Only reason I bothered to try there . 

That   happens  a lot when i am deer hunting i only see turkey or squirrels and rabbits  when I am  turkey hunting i only see deer . Always  the  game you just not hunting that day seems to alway show up  It is like they know .

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Storm914 said:

Seen 20 turkey cross that very trail at about that spot last day of deer season  last year .

Only reason I bothered to try there . 

That   happens  a lot when i am deer hunting i only see turkey or squirrels and rabbits  when I am  turkey hunting i only see deer . Always  the  game you just not hunting that day seems to alway show up  It is like they know .

 

 

 

 

There is a logical explanation to that phenomena, Stormy....Turkeys and deer are actually the same species, known as " DEERKEYS"

During deer season they look like turkeys, and during turkey season they look like deer...

It may sound kind of far fetched, but would I lie to you ??

By the way, the check is in the mail...

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