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I read a thread on another site that questioned if you knew what worked and what didn’t in your survival pack. So today I went through my stuff(I’m still adding)and decided to start with the fire starting gear. Which consisted of two bic lighters(no need to test) two ferro rods a magnesium stick and piece of hacksaw blade a lens from an old scope and uco stormproof matches. Cotton balls smeared with Vaseline vacuum sealed in a bag.

The ferro rods where a coghlan’s which came apart and a no name I picked up at a hunting show. Both throw good sparks with the hacksaw blade and my buck 102 and a cheap Chinese life one of my brothers gave me. I was surprised that the kabar mariner knife didn’t work. The lens was a Waste if time. I sat there trying all kinds of kindle nothing lit. The matches worked great. I even dipped one in water and it relit. So after today I think I’m set with fire starting. I might try a magnifier.

As far a water purification I know my sawyer works because I use it all the time. Whistle and mirror are good. Extra compass. 550 cord.

It’s to hot to try the space blankets right now.

I know I’m missing a bunch of gear,but I never had to carry a survival pack hunting on Long Island. Now I’m up in the ADK’s I won’t go in without one.

So what’s in you pack and does it work??? Let’s hear and see it.

 

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It is  a good point to practice with what you plan on having...especially the most basic tools and skills. Once you become proficient, then practice on crappy conditions...in the dark, in the rain, etc. I have eliminated many tools/ knives, firestarters, etc. from my gear in this way. Keep it simple and durable.

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I have no survival pack..dont go anywhere I'd need one...


I've hunted almost everyday of my life.. the rest have been wasted!

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I'm not a prepper but I have a knife a compass and a  folderable wallet size survival manual  in my wallet at all times  one thing I need to get is something to start a  fire easily that I can attach to my keychain .

But I alway keep a lighter in the car at least . 

 

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9 hours ago, Hawk914 said:

I'm not a prepper but I have a knife a compass and a  folderable wallet size survival manual  in my wallet at all times  one thing I need to get is something to start a  fire easily that I can attach to my keychain .

But I alway keep a lighter in the car at least . 

 

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Not a prepper.My pack is for hunting,fishing and hiking I hope i never have to need it but want everything to work should I get lost or hurt and have to spend the night.On average most people are found within 1-3 days.Water,warmth and food will help keep you still until your rescuers find you. I'm working on a medic kit as well.

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I am a big believer in being prepared and would definitely carry a kit similar to what you have assembled if I were to be in a remote area especially for an extended period. Even if I just go out for a few hours I always carry a good compass, knife, para cord and a lighter. I like the old fashioned Zippo outdoor lighter because they always work.

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1 hour ago, rachunter said:

Not a prepper.My pack is for hunting,fishing and hiking I hope i never have to need it but want everything to work should I get lost or hurt and have to spend the night.On average most people are found within 1-3 days.Water,warmth and food will help keep you still until your rescuers find you. I'm working on a medic kit as well.

Ok I get you . Still even for hunting fishing having that survival Manuel  on you at all times  would help shows you everything you need to know to live off the land with nothing at all , how to make fire how to get water or filter water how to build a shelter how to make traps  how to navigate covers it all . Even if you read something like that unless you actually practice those skills with out having the book with you more then likely you will forget most of the things in that booklet  that's why it's a good thing to have on you at all times  say you  get lost don't have a backpack with stuff in it with you. Just your wallet  in you pocket which is what most people will always have . It's a great thing to have  for any survival situation.

 

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37 minutes ago, Hawk914 said:

having that survival Manuel  on you at all times  

 

Survival Manuel : you’re taking a Mexican?

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1 hour ago, Hawk914 said:

Ok I get you . Still even for hunting fishing having that survival Manuel  on you at all times  would help shows you everything you need to know to live off the land with nothing at all , how to make fire how to get water or filter water how to build a shelter how to make traps  how to navigate covers it all . Even if you read something like that unless you actually practice those skills with out having the book with you more then likely you will forget most of the things in that booklet  that's why it's a good thing to have on you at all times  say you  get lost don't have a backpack with stuff in it with you. Just your wallet  in you pocket which is what most people will always have . It's a great thing to have  for any survival situation.

 

I don't carry one afield but have several survival books in my library, they are interesting and lots of valuable stuff can be learned, they are well worth reading if one spends time in the outdoors.

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A book is ok as a reference, but trying to develop a skill when it could be a life or death need while reading about it is about worthless in my view. It's actually kind of neat in my book to try some of these skills. build a couple different kinds of traps. Try a couple different ways to make a fire.  Take a compass and a topo map and try to navigate to a landmark. 

 

One of the best sets of books that I have read, deals with many topics even beyond just survival skills.  Look into the Foxfire books. 

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12 hours ago, G-Man said:

I have no survival pack..dont go anywhere I'd need one...

I don’t know if that means you don’t carry any survival items or just a dedicated pack / pouch . Anyways every lost hunter or day hiker that required a search and rescue crew to find them said pretty much  the same thing .

This gal,went for a three mile hike in a park on a trail, 17 days later she was found . She got turned around and slipped down a ravin , apparently it’s very thick and easy to do there .

(CNN)A woman who survived 17 days in a forest in Hawaii after she got lost while hiking says she was irresponsible for going into the woods unprepared.

 

I have a friend who fell,out of a stand preseason, ( trimming branches ) broke his femur ,couldnt move, no phone,no whistle , no light or any way to signal  for help .  One can taylor their items for the area, although the basics tend to stay the same . 

Bob I agree, when I used to turkey hunt ,when I was done I’d pretend ok I fell out of the tree I’m leaning against , and using only materials I could reach build a fire . 

Once I walked into, the woods with my normal, pocket load out and spent the night . Built simple lean too, made fire, “ slept “ on a trash bag stuffed with leaves .

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1 hour ago, turkeyfeathers said:

Survival Manuel : you’re taking a Mexican?

(manual) at least the talk to text on my fun thinks I'm bringing the Mexican I guess .

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38 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

One of the best sets of books that I have read, deals with many topics even beyond just survival skills.  Look into the Foxfire books. 

I had the Foxfire set and as you said they are full of skill learning that is valuable to outdoor folks and just plain entertaining. 

Another pretty good read I picked up a short time ago is "I Knew That" from the pages of "Fur Fish and Game" magazine. Fur Fish and Game I think is the best outdoorsman magazine in print at this time.

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33 minutes ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

A book is ok as a reference, but trying to develop a skill when it could be a life or death need while reading about it is about worthless in my view. It's actually kind of neat in my book to try some of these skills. build a couple different kinds of traps. Try a couple different ways to make a fire.  Take a compass and a topo map and try to navigate to a landmark. 

 

One of the best sets of books that I have read, deals with many topics even beyond just survival skills.  Look into the Foxfire books. 

Having the book on you Better then nothing let's  face it it's like being a craftsman unless you are doing the skill all the time you  get rusty at it .

Most people don't have time to practice survival skills on a regular basis . 

And under stress you forget things a book on you will help .

Definitely better then nothing when being  lost in the woods  with  nothing on you .

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On 6/29/2019 at 6:47 PM, rachunter said:

 

I read a thread on another site that questioned if you knew what worked and what didn’t in your survival pack. So today I went through my stuff(I’m still adding)and decided to start with the fire starting gear. Which consisted of two bic lighters(no need to test) two ferro rods a magnesium stick and piece of hacksaw blade a lens from an old scope and uco stormproof matches. Cotton balls smeared with Vaseline vacuum sealed in a bag.

The ferro rods where a coghlan’s which came apart and a no name I picked up at a hunting show. Both throw good sparks with the hacksaw blade and my buck 102 and a cheap Chinese life one of my brothers gave me. I was surprised that the kabar mariner knife didn’t work. The lens was a Waste if time. I sat there trying all kinds of kindle nothing lit. The matches worked great. I even dipped one in water and it relit. So after today I think I’m set with fire starting. I might try a magnifier.

As far a water purification I know my sawyer works because I use it all the time. Whistle and mirror are good. Extra compass. 550 cord.

It’s to hot to try the space blankets right now.

I know I’m missing a bunch of gear,but I never had to carry a survival pack hunting on Long Island. Now I’m up in the ADK’s I won’t go in without one.

So what’s in you pack and does it work??? Let’s hear and see it.

 

 

 

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I would add a vacuum packed small candle stick to your fire starting material.  All you need to do is get it lit and you won't need to waste anymore matches or the fluid in the lighters.  You'll have a flame going for a good while, way better than the vaseline soaked cotton balls.  My .02 cents.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, steve863 said:

I would add a vacuum packed small candle stick to your fire starting material.  All you need to do is get it lit and you won't need to waste anymore matches or the fluid in the lighters.  You'll have a flame going for a good while, way better than the vaseline soaked cotton balls.  My .02 cents.

 

 

My idea is have some type of flammable fluid on you in a small container something like a gas oil mix that will help you get a fire going at first .

Some times even with a lighter finding dry stuff to get the fire going can be tuff in the woods .

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2 hours ago, BeIo said:

I don’t know if that means you don’t carry any survival items or just a dedicated pack / pouch . Anyways every lost hunter or day hiker that required a search and rescue crew to find them said pretty much  the same thing .

This gal,went for a three mile hike in a park on a trail, 17 days later she was found . She got turned around and slipped down a ravin , apparently it’s very thick and easy to do there .

(CNN)A woman who survived 17 days in a forest in Hawaii after she got lost while hiking says she was irresponsible for going into the woods unprepared.

 

I have a friend who fell,out of a stand preseason, ( trimming branches ) broke his femur ,couldnt move, no phone,no whistle , no light or any way to signal  for help .  One can taylor their items for the area, although the basics tend to stay the same . 

Bob I agree, when I used to turkey hunt ,when I was done I’d pretend ok I fell out of the tree I’m leaning against , and using only materials I could reach build a fire . 

Once I walked into, the woods with my normal, pocket load out and spent the night . Built simple lean too, made fire, “ slept “ on a trash bag stuffed with leaves .

I don't carry anything,most of the time i dont even carry a knife in woods hunting.


I've hunted almost everyday of my life.. the rest have been wasted!

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1 hour ago, Hawk914 said:

My idea is have some type of flammable fluid on you in a small container something like a gas oil mix that will help you get a fire going at first .

Some times even with a lighter finding dry stuff to get the fire going can be tuff in the woods .

Birch bark is amazing for starting a fire .

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26 minutes ago, G-Man said:

I don't carry anything,most of the time i dont even carry a knife in woods hunting.

Hehehe forget my knife sometimes when I hunt but luckily I have one of those keychain ones on my car /house keys that  never gets  forgotten  also a keychain compess on there as well .

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2 hours ago, Hawk914 said:

My idea is have some type of flammable fluid on you in a small container something like a gas oil mix that will help you get a fire going at first .

Some times even with a lighter finding dry stuff to get the fire going can be tuff in the woods .

A bottle of hand sanitizer works pretty well. Serves two purposes. 

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19 minutes ago, Hawk914 said:

Hehehe forget my knife sometimes when I hunt but luckily I have one of those keychain ones on my car /house keys that  never gets  forgotten  also a keychain compess on there as well .

One time I made one from a piece of flint, another time I shot a spent shell casing to make sharp.edge. usually I just go back to house and get one along with tractor

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I've hunted almost everyday of my life.. the rest have been wasted!

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good topic. I bought about $300 worth of gear about 5 years ago and filled 2 duffles worth of stuff for a bug out and haven't really opened them since. I'm sure things like batteries should be swapped. 

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I read Belo's post and went through my duffel bags. Alot of this stuff will never get used and , I bought over a long period of time.  I have much more that, I bought on the Fly. Really though--- when Hunting-- all, I take is a Whistle and the all important 16.9fl oz of Spring Water. Add in a map and a Camo cheap ass rain jacket if it is threatening above. I have done much reading on this subject.  A simple lighter is a good idea too.  I bought those- ( Quickfire) at the Rockland Outdoor Expo. Vendor was outside so she could demonstrate. A good Nutcracker is never thought of- but,if you know your Nut Trees-- you can have your fill.  I am a Hiker also as some here know and alot of Hikers try to learn more about what is edible.  In the 90s- I found a olddd Deer hut in Sterling Forest put together completely by different size Cable Ties.  I pushed hard on it-- Solid. I never forgot that woods lesson and that is why you see Cable Ties on my pic. 1 Dollar at the Dollar Tree. I was thinking at one time of Hiking the whole Appalachian Trail. Probably why, I still have this stuff . 2 survival wrist Rockets  that can't be used.  Really though--- the more knowledge you have the better. If, I was stuck in the wilderness for whatever reason and, I found a Walnut tree grove- I would crush up the Green Husk of a bunch and into a pond, I would throw it.  And gather some stunned Fish. This is Illegal- so don't try it unless there is a fire emergency. Gold Bond, I have in my car for the dreaded Poison ivy.  Of everything though--- that Whistle could save your ass if you break one of your legs  with possible internal injuries. If you forgot your cellphone or broke it in a really bad fall- that whistle could save your life . Always good to leave a note also about where you plan to hunt/hike.

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