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I have found that an old metal file will get some real good sparks off the ferro rods I have, like them better than any of my knives, they are cheap and come in all sizes. I had an old one laying around, put it in a vice and snapped it into a convenient size for carrying.

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34 minutes ago, airedale said:

I have found that an old metal file will get some real good sparks off the ferro rods I have, like them better than any of my knives, they are cheap and come in all sizes. I had an old one laying around, put it in a vice and snapped it into a convenient size for carrying.

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Agree 100%.  That's why a tool like a Leatherman or a Swiss Army is great to have and probably more valuable than the Bowie knife some want to lug along.  I've got a Leatherman with a file and works great as a striker.

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1 hour ago, steve863 said:

Agree 100%.  That's why a tool like a Leatherman or a Swiss Army is great to have and probably more valuable than the Bowie knife some want to lug along.  I've got a Leatherman with a file and works great as a striker.

Steve, with all respect, it depends on what you are using the knife for. If you are using it to build primitive shelters and tools using wood, You want the "Bowie" knife, not the Leatherman. If it is made of carbon steel and had a 90 degree edge at the top, it will work fine as a striker for a ferro rod. Me, personally, for a pure survival situation, if I had to pick between the two, I would go with a full-tang knife over a Leatherman. As a handyman, "camping" or supplemental survival knife/tool, Leatherman's are great, especially for making traps and snares.

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17 hours ago, Hawk914 said:

You don't know  what birch bark is ?

Or the other stuff you carry then  why do you carry it ? 

I'm not even a survival expert and I know that ?

Never claimed to be either on here .

Don't know why you think I am .

Just use a lighter already  or   bring two  MacGyver and something that burns easy Like Char cloth  .

You want my blessing or something? 

 

 

 

 

I know what every item in my pic is, and the circumstances where one would be better over the other. But seeing you still aren't answering the question I make the assessment you have no clue. Keep typing. I go out and do, not just post other peoples videos.

13 hours ago, old man river said:

Hawk has a valid point here.

Does he? What point? Can you tell me what the items are in my pic William?

 

To both of you, stop taking turns humping each others leg and go primitive/backwoods camping for at least a night, then come back and chime in. You make a cute couple but it gets old fast.

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58 minutes ago, DirtTime said:

I know what every item in my pic is, and the circumstances where one would be better over the other. But seeing you still aren't answering the question I make the assessment you have no clue. Keep typing. I go out and do, not just post other peoples videos.

Does he? What point? Can you tell me what the items are in my pic William?

 

To both of you, stop taking turns humping each others leg and go primitive/backwoods camping for at least a night, then come back and chime in. You make a cute couple but it gets old fast.

Well  golly gee  

I don't know 

Looks like part of a meth lab  kit . :)

is there something you want to tell us ? 

 

 

 

 

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This is some things I keep in a pack, in my truck. When hunting in cold weather, or big woods, the amount of crap and the size of the pack goes up.

Paracord, lifestraw, lighters & candles, winter hat, space blanket, books, snacks and first aid stuff, are a must have for me.

The lighters are all full, and I swap the granola bars out every year. I hope the lifestraw works, but am not going to test it.

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Agree 100%.  That's why a tool like a Leatherman or a Swiss Army is great to have and probably more valuable than the Bowie knife some want to lug along.  I've got a Leatherman with a file and works great as a striker.

I carry a leatherman everyday,but I wouldn’t want to cut up tinder and such with it. Maybe in a pinch. Sometimes I over think things the hacksaw blade or a piece of file like AL mentioned is a good option.
I’m picking up some good info here keep it coming


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This is a great thread , very informative , yeah that’s what I figured with the cotton balls and  vaseline, do you know how effective it is? I think I would bring a bunch in a ziplock bag as a backup but maybe also bring one of those little fuel canisters as my primary fire starter 

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This is some things I keep in a pack, in my truck. When hunting in cold weather, or big woods, the amount of crap and the size of the pack goes up.
Paracord, lifestraw, lighters & candles, winter hat, space blanket, books, snacks and first aid stuff, are a must have for me.
The lighters are all full, and I swap the granola bars out every year. I hope the lifestraw works, but am not going to test it.
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The life straw works great. I use one all the time. There’s no way I could carry enough water. I’ve drinking out of puddles with it never a problem. From what I read there no shelf life on them. My sawyer is a little better.


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This is a great thread , very informative , yeah that’s what I figured with the cotton balls and  vaseline, do you know how effective it is? I think I would bring a bunch in a ziplock bag as a backup but maybe also bring one of those little fuel canisters as my primary fire starter 

They burn hot. You’d be surprised how many you can jam into a 35mm film canister. I vacuum sealed about 40 into a small bag.


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Here is another idea if you just don't want to go out and buy special stuff for making fire .

Everyone has cooking oil and paper in there house right ?

You can get a zip lock bag  and soak  a few sheets of papper in the cooking oil  when hit with a flame it will burn nice and easy for you long enough to get a bigger fire going  .

I do this to light the wood or  charcoal in my bbq sometimes when I run out of lighter fluid .

Works like a charm and could be adapted to a survival kit with a ziplock bag . And you don't have to worry if it breaks open cooking oil is not toxic last time  I checked .

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10 hours ago, Northcountryman said:

This is a great thread , very informative , yeah that’s what I figured with the cotton balls and  vaseline, do you know how effective it is? I think I would bring a bunch in a ziplock bag as a backup but maybe also bring one of those little fuel canisters as my primary fire starter 

Vaseline covered cotton balls are very effective fire starters, both in terms of quickly igniting and, more importantly, burning for several minutes to give your kindling a chance to catch on fire. My concern with liquid fuel is that while it may ignite quickly, it will not have a long burn time. A potential flash in the pan, so to speak.

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I have a week long deer hunting trip in a remote part of the ADK's coming up the end of October. I am not hunting areas with marked trails or "woods roads", so I need to make sure I am prepared for this trip. Below is a pic of what will be in my pack. There will be a tarp as well, but I didn't take a pic of that because I want to try and buy a US Military Poncho to reduce weight if money allows. I also just realized I did not take pic of the flashlights.

 

 

The little black plastic container in my first aid kit, it had the usual items and also two space blankets, some fishing line and split shots, I do have to re-wrap it with Gorilla tape as an added item for a splint or a to seal up a nasty cut.

A compass..Duh!

A few slabs of fatwood for tinder, this stuff burns hot and for a long time!

Plain ole' cotton balls.

A couple tea candles.

Para cord.

A couple carabiners.

Some tent steaks ( oh look, they are still dirty, that's what happens when you actually use gear! ).

My knives and ferro rods.

A small folding saw.

My mess kit.

Water bottles.

Some small rations of food.

 

 

This may seem like a lot of useless gear, but it all fits in my day pack and weighs just about 15#'s. Not much weight really. I don't take chances in unfamiliar territory, and I don't just go 5 feet from the road and snap a pic, so I am making sure if something goes bad, I will be good for a day or two until people find me.

 

 

 

Here's another tip, if you get seriously lost in the woods, don't move! Stay put and set up a camp, learn how to make a debris shelter! Bright tarps and ponchos will also help people find you easier.

 

Another tip, as has been mentioned a couple times in this thread, go out and practice using your gear! Set things up in your yard and dial things in! If it doesn't work in your yard, it isn't going to work when you need it the most!

 

 

 

 

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Got my survival book. Looks good so far.
There’s a story in the intro about a hunter getting lost. When they found him he had a camp set up and was waiting for a rescue team. So letting someone know your route(where about) and like “DirtTime” said stay put.
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10 hours ago, goosifer said:

Vaseline covered cotton balls are very effective fire starters, both in terms of quickly igniting and, more importantly, burning for several minutes to give your kindling a chance to catch on fire. My concern with liquid fuel is that while it may ignite quickly, it will not have a long burn time. A potential flash in the pan, so to speak.

I actually have experimented with this  to   light my  bbq  when I had no  bbq fuel  and no really dry wood around adding cooking oil gives you the slow burn to be able to heat up sticks charcoal wood what ever is in there even when it is damp wood.  I believe this mixture or version of it has been used against tanks by  insurgents in the past  .  Actually just the cooking oil soaked in paper and small sticks will work .   Dump or soak a bunch of small sticks and paper in just cooking oil and it will burn long enough to get it going at least that has been  my experience with the stuff on bbqs with wood and charcoal.  Best part cooking oil is not toxic can be stored in just a zip lock any plastic container unlike other fuels that you have to watch out for . I started  my bbq on the 4th this way it works .

Just another option to think about if you got nothing else around to work with .

 

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A good way to keep your feet dry in emergency conditions is to simply double up a Walmart plastic bag over your socks before putting on your footwear that may be drenched already.

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One thing I will be adding to my pack this fall is a Tick Key. I picked up an additional one so I have one to carry and one in the pack 

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3 hours ago, turkeyfeathers said:

Will my 40 year collection of belly button lint work ? Disclaimer is I ask random strangers for there’s 

Yep that works. Just make sure you are not lost for an extended period of time. You keep playing with that belly and hungry people may take notice and you might be next on the menu. Nothing says food like someone with a big belly and bunny suit LOL!

2 hours ago, old man river said:

A good way to keep your feet dry in emergency conditions is to simply double up a Walmart plastic bag over your socks before putting on your footwear that may be drenched already.

This can work, and I have done it but only for a very short term situation, walking back to my car situation. It's not a good idea in a long term situation. You can develop 'foot rot', which is about as much fun as as having a mule kick you in the face

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14 hours ago, rachunter said:

Got my survival book. Looks good so far.
There’s a story in the intro about a hunter getting lost. When they found him he had a camp set up and was waiting for a rescue team. So letting someone know your route(where about) and like “DirtTime” said stay put.
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Panic is deadly! You have to remain calm and evaluate your situation.

 

On a side note, if you get lost in an area with no cell service, your phone will die looking for a signal pretty fast. My thoughts on using only new age gizmos in a bad situation, once the batteries die, you just have a tool that doesn't work anymore.

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