Pete Collin

Hunting Leases - Southern Tier

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Hello.

I have three hunting leases available for sale.

The first is 29 acres in the Town of Wirt, Allegany County, NY. It is mostly a grove of acorn-bearing oak trees. We are asking $590 per year.

The second is 250 acres in the Town of Lyndon, Cattaraugus County, NY, It is woods and fields right behind the main farm, has been posted and patrolled for years, has not been hunted in over a decade. We are asking $4,500 per year.

The third is 426 acres in the Town of Lyndon, Cattaraugus County, NY. It is woods and fields, swamp, contains a grove of acorn-bearing oak trees. It has a cabin that you may use, but it is derelict and has no electricity. We are asking $7,242 per year.

I am a professional forester, working on behalf of the owner. My website is at www.pcforestry.com. You may email me at pcollinforestry@gmail.com if interested. I will send you maps of the properties, you may inspect them, and can phone me if you are ready to sign a lease for one of them. These are all the leases I have. A lease gives you exclusive rights for all wild game hunting seasons for one calendar year. (excluding fur trapping). You may put up tree stands, but only commercially made ones that do not put screws or nails into the trees. We are managing intensively for sawtimber, so we don't allow cutting of shooting lanes or making feed plots. No camping is allowed on the 2 leases that don't have the cabin on them. ATVs are allowed only for deploying or retrieving tree stands, or for retrieving downed game. I have never hunted these properties, but have a long working experience on all three and can attest that deer and turkey are abundant on all three.

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Does excluding fur trapping mean others will be fur trapping on that property, and if so when?

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1 hour ago, Pete Collin said:

No, nobody will be trapping fur on the properties.

why is trapping excluded?


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On 7/31/2019 at 5:57 PM, Pete Collin said:

Because the landowner said so. 

 

Understood. Was just wondering if there was a reason behind the decision.  Is furbearer hunting allowed?

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2 hours ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

Understood. Was just wondering if there was a reason behind the decision.  Is furbearer hunting allowed?

The last property is 2 away from me. It needs to have about 3 million coon and dozens of coyotes removed. It's where they all come from after I eliminate all the ones by me.. neighbor use to be buffer but he died and no one does anything there anymore as well. Sad

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I've hunted almost everyday of my life.. the rest have been wasted!

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2 hours ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

Understood. Was just wondering if there was a reason behind the decision.  Is furbearer hunting allowed?

Yes, you can gun or bow hunt anything that is legal.  I had only one guy in the past ask about trapping.  It was a fair question, so I asked the landowner, and he said no.  It isn't my place to question his reason or argue otherwise.

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2 hours ago, G-Man said:

The last property is 2 away from me. It needs to have about 3 million coon and dozens of coyotes removed. It's where they all come from after I eliminate all the ones by me.. neighbor use to be buffer but he died and no one does anything there anymore as well. Sad

I feel that any good management plan has a working component that controls predators. Trapping is so much more effective than hunting IMO. I  was asking because I know farms and timber lots that are managed for crops and timber as the main focus and they exclude predator trapping and hunting. Their view is the more predators around the harder the deer population will be hit above legal tag limits and reducing the pressure on their marketable crop. I get it, It's their land. Just need to go into a lease understanding all of it. 

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4 hours ago, Culvercreek hunt club said:

I feel that any good management plan has a working component that controls predators. Trapping is so much more effective than hunting IMO. I  was asking because I know farms and timber lots that are managed for crops and timber as the main focus and they exclude predator trapping and hunting. Their view is the more predators around the harder the deer population will be hit above legal tag limits and reducing the pressure on their marketable crop. I get it, It's their land. Just need to go into a lease understanding all of it. 

It's a big property and has a large duck area.. I just cant see taking 7k worth of game off it. Even with 10 guys


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8 minutes ago, greensider said:

Stop saying lease people don't need to know we would pay them for using their land we are loosing land fast enough already 

It's not that your losing land people just want compensation.. 

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23 minutes ago, G-Man said:

It's not that your losing land people just want compensation.. 

Yup, property taxes aren’t cheap. Especially rural property where there isn’t a high population density to absorb the annual levy.

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1 hour ago, G-Man said:

It's a big property and has a large duck area.. I just cant see taking 7k worth of game off it. Even with 10 guys

I thought prices seemed steep ,compared to other properties i've looked at in the same area. 

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3 minutes ago, Jeremy K said:

I thought prices seemed steep ,compared to other properties i've looked at in the same area. 

I agree about 4 bucks an acre over imo. But my taxes are 7k  so I assume your paying the taxes


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13 minutes ago, G-Man said:

I agree about 4 bucks an acre over imo. But my taxes are 7k  so I assume your paying the taxes

Ya, i saw a couple places going for 12 an acre in the same area . 

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18 minutes ago, Steuben Jerry said:

If you could just lease only the right acre..

I haven't resorted to leasing yet .

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It's a sign of the times , thats why I just looked and bought my own piece, back when i first hunted i could just knock on doors and get permission easy for free, most it would cost is giving the farmer a deer and even then i would just leave the deer at his barn wouldnt even need to butcher it, but after loosing properties to change i bought my own......nothing wrong with lease hay if the owner can get his taxes paid good for him

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I love leasing. Bad hunting? Switch. Bad neighbors? Switch.


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24 minutes ago, The_Real_TCIII said:

I love leasing. Bad hunting? Switch. Bad neighbors? Switch.


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Lease this and you can be my neighbor..  lol

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Lease this and you can be my neighbor..  lol

You don’t want that lol


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