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All - I have always gotten good advice when I reach out, so here I go.

Looking to buy a ML, never owned one and want to take advantage of the ML season.

any suggestions from the good people on here is appreciated my price point would be +/- $ 500 range with a scope

Thanks in advance

 

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I have a TC Omega 50 cal with the thumbhole stock and a scope on it. I love it. Great shooting gun as far as I’m concerned. It was a package deal from Cabela’s a few years ago and I think it cost around $500. 

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I have a CVA Wolf which is on the lower end but it shoots great and can get one for under 300 with a scope.  Mine was 150 without scope picked it up last year for my first one and i love it.  I know cva has alot of higher end ones also.

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I’ve heard good things about the TC Omega.  Your optics on any gun as good as you can shoot is my quote. Buy good optics for whatever you choose imo.  I’ve used my Winchester apex magnum ML for primary deer gun for 20 years.  Bushnell Elite 3200 3x 9 firefly. 

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Cva optima my biggest problem with most muzzloader bullets is jacket is to hard for proper expansion and will never use shockwaves or any sabot again powerbelts only and will be buying all leads this season 

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1 minute ago, greensider said:

Cva optima my biggest problem with most muzzloader bullets is jacket is to hard for proper expansion and will never use shockwaves or any sabot again powerbelts only and will be buying all leads this season 

Power belts a terrible answer too 

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I have 2 cva  ,an apex and a optima v2 . Both of them shoot 100g Blackhorn 209, 300g shockwave , federal shot primers . Super consistent and great shooters.  I highly recommend the Blackhorn, there is a Blackhorn breach plug to make sure you get a hot enough ignition. Do some research and see if the one you are serious about is compatible with Blackhorn, once you shoot it ,you'll never shoot any of that other garbage ever again . 

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8 minutes ago, greensider said:

Cva optima my biggest problem with most muzzloader bullets is jacket is to hard for proper expansion and will never use shockwaves or any sabot again powerbelts only and will be buying all leads this season 

What weight were you using?

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4 minutes ago, Jeremy K said:

I have 2 cva  ,an apex and a optima v2 . Both of them shoot 100g Blackhorn 209, 300g shockwave , federal shot primers . Super consistent and great shooters.  I highly recommend the Blackhorn, there is a Blackhorn breach plug to make sure you get a hot enough ignition.

Shooting blackthorn powder or pellets ? I’ve had 2 hiccups the last few years with 777 pellets with hangfire and only primer. I’ll look into new breechplug 

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I shoot a tc encore and love it and last year we bought my wife the tc impact and she loves it shoots great and is extremely accurate 

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8 minutes ago, turkeyfeathers said:

Shooting blackthorn powder or pellets ? I’ve had 2 hiccups the last few years with 777 pellets with hangfire and only primer. I’ll look into new breechplug 

Does Blackhorn come in pellets? I have 2 jugs of powder ,I fill the speedloaders before I go in the woods . I dont think you need to change the breech plug for 777.

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17 minutes ago, turkeyfeathers said:

Shooting blackthorn powder or pellets ? I’ve had 2 hiccups the last few years with 777 pellets with hangfire and only primer. I’ll look into new breechplug 

I tried the 777 and the white hott pellets when i first got into MZ , both of them were so dirty i couldn't even fully push a second round . 

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Look for a used White, it will be the last muzzleloader you ever buy.  They are build far better then todays inlines.

You cant go wrong with a TC  I have a TC omega X7, have had plenty of encores and am looking for a triumph 

Cva and knight both are shooters too. You really cant go wrong with either .

The remintings seem to have some issues with blow by in their new RUM ,but several are working on new plugs for them 

You dont need to spend 500 to get a shooter 

If you can  find a Melvin Forbes NULA that's like winning the lottery. 

Once you choose what gun I can suggest powders and bullets ...

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I have a NEF 50 cal . I use the Triple 7 loose powder . Never cared for the pellets . 

 

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TC omega 50 cal. For me and has dropped plenty deer, topped with a nikon BDC. Using 209 primers   (3) 50grain  777 pellets and 250 grain shockwaves. Deadly combination.

 

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Love my NEF, wish they still made them. She shoots 460grain no excuses light out along with speer deep curls in 300 grain in a crush rib sabot 

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The nice thing about the modern ML with the removable breech plug is you can also look at used with confidence

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Cva Optima is by far the best choice in your range. 

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I've hunted almost everyday of my life.. the rest have been wasted!

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i have a TC impact - lower price range of TC's - most accurate gun I have at 100 yards for one shot!  My buddy has a TC encore and its a beauty!! 

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I was looking at getting the CVA Accura Mountain rifle , 50 cal, with the Bergara barrel,

Dont plan on shooting over 100 yards, so the shorter 25 inch barrel should not be a problem

 

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I do love my Encore but if buying a ML today I wouldnt bother unless youre going to buy some other barrels for it. And IMO by the time you do that and put good glass on them you could just buy complete rifles. And who doesnt want more guns?!

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1 minute ago, The_Real_TCIII said:

I do love my Encore but if buying a ML today I wouldnt bother unless youre going to buy some other barrels for it. And IMO by the time you do that and put good glass on them you could just buy complete rifles. And who doesnt want more guns?!

I have a 30-06 and mz barrel for my apex , I think the 30-06 barrel was less then 200 bucks ,spent almost 300 on glass for it . It's so accurate though ,being it's only a break action.

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I keep on telling myself to get a muzzle loader  to take advantage of that season but never get around to it .  

I think I would like to get one that has nice iron sites on it ,  Keep it simple I am not even sure if they  allow you to use those on the  range near me that I go to .

 

 

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4 hours ago, Jeremy K said:

I have a 30-06 and mz barrel for my apex , I think the 30-06 barrel was less then 200 bucks ,spent almost 300 on glass for it . It's so accurate though ,being it's only a break action.

I had a .308 barrel with nice glass on it, I sold it. I cant handle holding a single shot weapon during regular firearms season lol


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