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8 hours ago, Chef said:

One literally couldn't have made the US less great as Americans are restricted from entering Europe (and most countries around the world) because the pandemic is worse here than anywhere else on earth. Everywhere for which we have data.

 

Yes, the virus is not his fault. But despite some initial good steps, his failure to respond adequately is his responsibility. Nowhere else has a leader's inaction allowed the virus to become as bad as it is in our country.

 

The number of lives lost is expected to double before the end of the year. Millions more will become infected. Tens of millions (one in ten workers) still out of a job. Evictions beginning. Food lines becoming longer. And still no comprehensive plan. No mask mandate. No awareness.

 

What will it take to fix this? November 3.

 

 

 

 

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Not a fan boy of Trump but i gotta ask --- Biden is the fix??  Unless another candidate runs all of a sudden - where is the fix??   I cant swallow to vote for either of them but a fix - ya i'm not seeing it.  What exactly has Biden ever "fixed" ?   Career politician and has done exactly what .....and he is supposed to "fix" a pandemic??  lol.  sure. 

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10 hours ago, Chef said:

Yes, the virus is not his fault. But despite some initial good steps, his failure to respond adequately is his responsibility. Nowhere else has a leader's inaction allowed the virus to become as bad as it is in our country.

Why I don't completely disagree with you and  think he is sending a mixed message I can't blame him for his lack of doing more. The problem is not with him as much as the vast majority of the population (snowflakes) that refuse to adhere to the recommendations of the "experts" and continue to gather in large groups with no social distancing or protection.

 Trump gets criticized for everything he does or attempts to do and definitely does not help himself with some of his verbal responses and tweets.

Being a "free" society has it's drawbacks at times like this but you can bet if he did put more restrictions out there that people disagreed with there would be more unrest than there is now.

 We as a society are responsible for our own actions and we are the cause of the pandemic spreading not our leadership. If they restricted us more we would be bitching about that to.

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Arizona battles back - 0 deaths today

Houston battles back - from the "the end of the world" to opening all schools today on time.

NY - reopens gyms and bowling alleys.

Do we have to wait for election to be over or can we all admit this has been over for months?

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4 hours ago, The_Real_TCIII said:

Can you imagine the outrage had Trump shut the country down in Jan/Feb lol? Via executive order?? Give me a freakin break

He didn't have to.  Not every country did.  The moment there was any concentration, they shut down that city and that city only immediately.  But complete shut down.  No one goes in or out.  Rest of the country stayed open but test extensively.  Not here.  We closed restaurants but allowed everyone to travel freely.  Everything north of New Rochelle could have stayed open if NYC and New Rochelle would have gone into complete lock down for 2 months.

What was done is done.  We already picked one road  at the split and we walked too far to turn around.  We simply have to see it to the end.

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5 minutes ago, Elmo said:

He didn't have to.  Not every country did.  The moment there was any concentration, they shut down that city and that city only immediately.  But complete shut down.  No one goes in or out.  Rest of the country stayed open but test extensively.  Not here.  We closed restaurants but allowed everyone to travel freely.  Everything north of New Rochelle could have stayed open if NYC and New Rochelle would have gone into complete lock down for 2 months.

What was done is done.  We already picked one road  at the split and we walked too far to turn around.  We simply have to see it to the end.

Id love to go back in time and watch Trump tell Cuomo to lock a city down and see the reaction. Andy wanted to sue RI for telling NYers they couldnt come there

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Not a fan boy of Trump but i gotta ask --- Biden is the fix??  Unless another candidate runs all of a sudden - where is the fix??   I cant swallow to vote for either of them but a fix - ya i'm not seeing it.  What exactly has Biden ever "fixed" ?   Career politician and has done exactly what .....and he is supposed to "fix" a pandemic??  lol.  sure. 

He will at least pay attention to science which is way more than trump has done you can’t deny that


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Why I don't completely disagree with you and  think he is sending a mixed message I can't blame him for his lack of doing more. The problem is not with him as much as the vast majority of the population (snowflakes) that refuse to adhere to the recommendations of the "experts" and continue to gather in large groups with no social distancing or protection.
 Trump gets criticized for everything he does or attempts to do and definitely does not help himself with some of his verbal responses and tweets.
Being a "free" society has it's drawbacks at times like this but you can bet if he did put more restrictions out there that people disagreed with there would be more unrest than there is now.
 We as a society are responsible for our own actions and we are the cause of the pandemic spreading not our leadership. If they restricted us more we would be bitching about that to.

He should have been more supportive of masks early on and supportive of testing in general.


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Arizona battles back - 0 deaths today
Houston battles back - from the "the end of the world" to opening all schools today on time.
NY - reopens gyms and bowling alleys.
Do we have to wait for election to be over or can we all admit this has been over for months?

Just because Huston is opening schools doesn’t mean they should be.


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Just now, Chef said:


Just because Huston is opening schools doesn’t mean they should be.


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It's debatable, but so is the fact that NY gyms and bowling alleys haven't been open for the past several months.

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1 hour ago, Chef said:


He will at least pay attention to science which is way more than trump has done you can’t deny that


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I have zero faith in Biden because he hasn't proven to do anything.  Just because he's different does not mean he will be better. And again I far from a Trump fan. But I have zero confidence in Biden and don't agree with his political stance either. To me him fixing the pandemic is like sending Gomer Pyle to fix the space shuttle. Again that being said I can totally agree Trump hasn't wowed me at all in the last six months either.  I just don't see Biden as a cure or fix to anything. 

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1 hour ago, fasteddie said:

If Biden was elected , he wouldn't last long . He would be removed and Camel-Toe Harris would be in charge . She is on the Far Left .

 

I think most folks are smart enough to realize that, which explains why Biden's lead in the polls has fallen since he made that pick.  Ms Harris as VP is the best thing to happen to Trump yet, when it comes to his chances of re-election.

 

 

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I think most folks are smart enough to realize that, which explains why Biden's lead in the polls has fallen since he made that pick.  Ms Harris as VP is the best thing to happen to Trump yet, when it comes to his chances of re-election.
 
 

I agree with that, but I also think 4 more years of trump is way more detrimental to America’s world standing. I also think if they don’t get this covid think under Control it will absolutely kill the economy.

Why can’t get just form a nation strategy at this point


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I think most folks are smart enough to realize that, which explains why Biden's lead in the polls has fallen since he made that pick.  Ms Harris as VP is the best thing to happen to Trump yet, when it comes to his chances of re-election.
 
 

I agree with that, but I also think 4 more years of trump is way more detrimental to America’s world standing. I also think if they don’t get this covid think under Control it will absolutely kill the economy.

Why can’t get just form a nation strategy at this point


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I agree with that, but I also think 4 more years of trump is way more detrimental to America’s world standing. I also think if they don’t get this covid think under Control it will absolutely kill the economy.

Why can’t get just form a nation strategy at this point


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If the economy is your biggest concern then Trump is your man. Other sides of him we can all give or take


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If the economy is your biggest concern then Trump is your man. Other sides of him we can all give or take


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I disagree with that. I truly believe our nations poor response to the pandemic has destroyed the economy and unless we fix it, it will continue to do so. Remember the stock market is no the economy


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I disagree with that. I truly believe our nations poor response to the pandemic has destroyed the economy and unless we fix it, it will continue to do so. Remember the stock market is no the economy


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WWJ(have)D?
How would we all feel with Joe at the healm
For a pandemic? For an economic recovery?

I am no Rattler but we “sheeped” up pretty quick - no church, no work, no leaving the house, only 1 TP,....” All of that happened Without a heavily leaning left/borderline socialist candidate.

You handing over your Newly built AR to Joe’s campaign?


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WWJ(have)D?
How would we all feel with Joe at the healm
For a pandemic? For an economic recovery?

I am no Rattler but we “sheeped” up pretty quick - no church, no work, no leaving the house, only 1 TP,....” All of that happened Without a heavily leaning left/borderline socialist candidate.

You handing over your Newly built AR to Joe’s campaign?


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I don’t disagree Biden sucks, I just think he sucks way less than Trump. We also both know I’m not handing my AR over to anyone.

My honest opinion is this county need another Bill Clinton..... not Hillary.

A good old southern moderate Democrat


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I don’t disagree Biden sucks, I just think he sucks way less than Trump. We also both know I’m not handing my AR over to anyone.

My honest opinion is this county need another Bill Clinton..... not Hillary.

A good old southern moderate Democrat


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‘This country need a a good old AMERICAN. And we won’t get one until the media is told to go scratch and let the president do his job (with some perks).
Why would the right person ever subject himself (ok.../herself) to the scrutiny of that position


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I don’t disagree Biden sucks, I just think he sucks way less than Trump. We also both know I’m not handing my AR over to anyone.

My honest opinion is this county need another Bill Clinton..... not Hillary.

A good old southern moderate Democrat


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‘This country need a a good old AMERICAN. And we won’t get one until the media is told to go scratch and let the president do his job (with some perks).
Why would the right person ever subject himself (ok.../herself) to the scrutiny of that position


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