Arnold Schwarzenegger released a cautionary plea to the American public Sunday

[phantom]

Just now, Chef said:

Things like discrediting the media, fueling divide, claiming to be the victim... even the make America great again are all from hitlers play book


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media discredits themselves  

[9jNYstarkOH]

5 minutes ago, Chef said:

Things like discrediting the media, fueling divide, claiming to be the victim... even the make America great again are all from hitlers play book


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How the term being used by multiple leaders around the world sound Build Back  Better set on your radar seems like the same product but just the store brand. All using hitlers play book?

Edited January 11, 2021 by 9jNYstarkOH

[Northcountryman]

1 minute ago, Chef said:

Things like discrediting the media, fueling divide, claiming to be the victim... even the make America great again are all from hitlers play book


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The media discredits themselves with their clear and profound bias towards conservatives ; what many of us who voted for Trump was his courage to call them out on it . Unfortunately, I think he often took it a little too far . 
 What’s wrong with the MAGA slogan ?? Both sides should have no problem with the slogan ; maybe you don’t like their message , which is fine but the slogan is as patriotic as you can get . What about Obama’s Hope and Change message ? Was that somehow superior ? Some on the right argued that it had a  very Socialist / Communist connotation . I  myself , did not believe that but I disagreed with almost everything the man did as President ! 

[phantom]

1 minute ago, Chef said:

What does one thing have to do with the other... the fact that you even made that comparison shows what a disgusting person you are


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you  were saying  nazis  who killed 6 million are not socialist  just pointing out that Stalin who killed 20 million  defiantly was left  and he killed even more  people . 

how many people did trump kill ?  how many country's did he invade ?  

[Chef]

How the term being used by multiple leaders around the world sound Build Back  Better set on your radar seems like the same product but just the store brand. All using hitlers play book?

One is a slogan based about recovering from the largest disaster we have seen in modern times. The other day as creating a issue that never existed.


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[DoubleDose]

46 minutes ago, Chef said:

Things like discrediting the media, fueling divide, claiming to be the victim... even the make America great again are all from hitlers play book


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...and from his playbook is building a utopian society that will be the envy of the world, where civilian ownership of firearms to protect themselves is unnecessary.  I believe Biden said "Hell yeah i'm going to take your guns..." and he was going to put Beto in charge of doing it.  Schumer said change Georgia and then change America.  When we are going to quote history lets be complete and not selective.  All of the references and analogies to Hitler and Nazis have elements that can be applied to both parties.  I also do not believe it is fair to imply that either party is comparable to the Nazis.

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[Chef]

...and from his playbook is building a utopian society that will be the envy of the world, where civilian ownership of firearms to protect themselves is unnecessary.  I believe Biden said "Hell yeah i'm going to take your guns..." and he was going to put Beto in charge of doing it.  Schumer said change Georgia and then change America.  When we are going to quote history lets be complete and not selective.  All of the references and analogies to Hitler and Nazis have elements that can be applied to both parties.  I also do not believe it is fair to imply that either party is comparable to the Nazis.

That’s what you are missing... Trump is not a Republican... never was. There are still normal Republicans out there that did not get swept up in the hype


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[phantom]

6 minutes ago, Chef said:

That’s what you are missing... Trump is not a Republican... never was. There are still normal Republicans out there that did not get swept up in the hype


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Trumps only sin is he is  popular with the little guy   for doing things for the little guy  the dems use to be for  those people but are not anymore , and for this sin  trump most be put down .  

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[Versatile_Hunter]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/07/opinion/donald-trump-fascism.html?referringSource=articleShare 

[DoubleDose]

11 minutes ago, Chef said:

That’s what you are missing... Trump is not a Republican... never was. There are still normal Republicans out there that did not get swept up in the hype


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Chef I'm not missing anything.  I completely agree with you regarding the above; and would add there are still normal Democrats out there.  All I'm trying to do is be objective about the rhetoric from both sides.

 

[Northcountryman]

1 minute ago, Versatile_Hunter said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/07/opinion/donald-trump-fascism.html?referringSource=articleShare 

You’re posting an Oped clip Comparing Trump to Fascists from The NY Times ? Hardly an Objective source wouldn’t you say

[Versatile_Hunter]

Just now, Northcountryman said:

You’re posting an Oped clip Comparing Trump to Fascists from The NY Times ? Hardly an Objective source wouldn’t you say

Some food for thought - A Nobel Prize winner’s take on the matter. 

[DoubleDose]

6 minutes ago, Northcountryman said:

You’re posting an Oped clip Comparing Trump to Fascists from The NY Times ? Hardly an Objective source wouldn’t you say

We should all be able to agree with this from the opinion piece:

Law enforcement should seek to arrest as many of the participants in Wednesday’s attack as possible — some have already been identified, and there’s video evidence that should make it easy to identify many more.

And anyone who tries to violently interfere with the transfer of power should also be arrested.

[BowmanMike]

1 hour ago, phantom said:

you  were saying  nazis  who killed 6 million are not socialist  just pointing out that Stalin who killed 20 million  defiantly was left  and he killed even more  people . 

how many people did trump kill ?  how many country's did he invade ?  

yet...

[BowmanMike]

Arnold's speech is great. I am not a fan,but he put it well.

[Northcountryman]

4 minutes ago, BowmanMike said:

yet...

Ridiculous , that would not happen and will not happen :ever.   

[DoubleDose]

1 hour ago, phantom said:

you  were saying  nazis  who killed 6 million are not socialist  just pointing out that Stalin who killed 20 million  defiantly was left  and he killed even more  people . 

how many people did trump kill ?  how many country's did he invade ?  

Trump killed at least one person we know of.  That Iranian General believed to be a terrorist. Trump himself has publicly taken credit for this killing.  I'm just answering your question "how many people did trump kill?"  I am not taking any position on it.

[BowmanMike]

14 minutes ago, Northcountryman said:

Ridiculous , that would not happen and will not happen :ever.   

At this point i would not put it past trump. He has gotten away with everything so far and is obviousy becoming bolder. That call to the georgia governor asking to find 12.000 votes for him? That sounds right in line with the constitution. Or presidential.

Sounds like a dictator to me. 

[phantom]

25 minutes ago, BowmanMike said:

yet...

so what's he waiting for then ? going to be out in a few days .  biden and his goons are already planning the next war as we speak 

[BowmanMike]

10 minutes ago, phantom said:

so what's he waiting for then ? going to be out in a few days .  biden and his goons are already planning the next war as we speak 

If he had his way he would be in another 10 years. 

[Northcountryman]

22 minutes ago, BowmanMike said:

At this point i would not put it past trump. He has gotten away with everything so far and is obviousy becoming bolder. That call to the georgia governor asking to find 12.000 votes for him? That sounds right in line with the constitution. Or presidential.

Sounds like a dictator to me. 

A Dictator . Come on !! More hyperbole . I heard the call you’re referencing and I heard no threats or intimidation , attempts to bribe , etc. I think he was just frustrated, and , acting like a sore loser( which I believe that he is ). 

[9jNYstarkOH]

[Versatile_Hunter]

1 minute ago, 9jNYstarkOH said:

His own party is pushing for the 25th and for impeachment because of his lies and for inciting criminal actions against the US government...

[9jNYstarkOH]

36 minutes ago, Versatile_Hunter said:

His own party is pushing for the 25th and for impeachment because of his lies and for inciting criminal actions against the US government...

And even left leaning msm says Democrats are making a mockery of the constitution with this bs. And even if this is true it does not make him a dictator. Show me where he incited criminal actions against the government I will wait. You can keep repeating it but that does not make it true, you are better than this.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna1253751

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[phantom]

1 hour ago, BowmanMike said:

If he had his way he would be in another 10 years. 

well dems had there way in  Chicago  for over 60 years  how that work out ?