ADK Native Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/new-york-law-phases-out-most-gas-powered-vehicles-by-2035/ar-AAOh5eZ?ocid=SL5GDHP The article states “New York Governor Kathy Hochul signed legislation on Wednesday that resembles California’s, and would effectively ban sales of new, internal combustion engine cars and trucks in the Empire state by 2035.” Obviously Hochul is not interested in addressing the real problems in New York State like expensive state government, high taxes, high crime, drug addition, failed public schools, wasteful social programs and many other problems that reduce the quality of life in New York State. The article states “The New York legislation follows an earlier effort in California where Governor Newsom signed an executive order to ban sales of new, internal combustion engine light-duty vehicles in the state by 2035.” Hochul is trying to keep up with the disaster state of California? The news has reported that Hochul does support many of the policies of former Governor Andrew Cuomo who was a disaster for New York State. Nothing changes to improve New York State except for listening to Cuomo’s rants like “YOU DON’T NEED TEN BULLETS TO KILL A DEER!” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApexerER Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 I hope to be retired by then but if not. I guess that will be the end of my job anyway.... Hey, how do we make this state worse? Lets follow the lead of the worst one? Yea lets do that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 Democrats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 1 hour ago, ADK Native said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/new-york-law-phases-out-most-gas-powered-vehicles-by-2035/ar-AAOh5eZ?ocid=SL5GDHP The article states “New York Governor Kathy Hochul signed legislation on Wednesday that resembles California’s, and would effectively ban sales of new, internal combustion engine cars and trucks in the Empire state by 2035.” Obviously Hochul is not interested in addressing the real problems in New York State like expensive state government, high taxes, high crime, drug addition, failed public schools, wasteful social programs and many other problems that reduce the quality of life in New York State. The article states “The New York legislation follows an earlier effort in California where Governor Newsom signed an executive order to ban sales of new, internal combustion engine light-duty vehicles in the state by 2035.” Hochul is trying to keep up with the disaster state of California? The news has reported that Hochul does support many of the policies of former Governor Andrew Cuomo who was a disaster for New York State. Nothing changes to improve New York State except for listening to Cuomo’s rants like “YOU DON’T NEED TEN BULLETS TO KILL A DEER!” California is what democrats are trying to turn the country into . I dont understand what the grand prize is at the end of what ever the F theya re trying to accomplish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted September 11, 2021 Share Posted September 11, 2021 You think this is bad? People need to wake up to the fact these tyrants are just getting started. When will citizens grow a spine and decide enough is enough? The sheep are many in these blue states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantom Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 On 9/10/2021 at 2:27 PM, Jeremy K said: California is what democrats are trying to turn the country into . I dont understand what the grand prize is at the end of what ever the F theya re trying to accomplish. I guess misery is what they're trying to accomplish the super-rich don't like it that us piss ons can drive around freely no no no too much freedom for them. Bunch of psychos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steuben Jerry Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 What about chainsaws, tractors, ATVs, weed whackers, lawn mowers, outboard motors, generators, etc, etc, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtTime Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 Well, there's a lot of people who piss and moan about ATV's being loud and scaring the game away. So if they go electric I guess those people will have to find something else to cry about. There won't be anymore gas pumps either, so I guess there won't be any moaning about seeing a hunter pump gas in his hunting clothing. So it sounds like this might stop the shortage of Kleenex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 There is nothing wrong with electric vehicles or anything else, as long as people are free to choose what works best for them. There is a lot wrong with the government dictating what your choice is, especially if it only gives you one choice. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatball Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 So what's the plan when your battery dies on the highway? You no longer can bring a generator out to charge it up? Lol, they won't get rid of the combustion engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Lucky Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Working in the auto industry, and being one of the few certified to repair plug in cars it is going to be interesting. There already is a lack of quality technicians in the field. Battery powered cars will eliminate alot of maintenance for the consumer, but will increase problems on the technical end. I would say 75% of people who want to be technicians can not even work their way through a simple 12 volt system on vehicles today. It amazes me how many work in the automotive industry and have no concept of how to read a wire diagram, or how current flows. Getting into 600 volt vehicles, additional modules, computer programming, it will be a disaster at the repair level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 They are doing their best to turn NYS into an empty state. It may turn out that even I will be driven from my home state by the lefties. They are working very hard at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy K Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 The auto industry was prepared to spend billions of dollars investing in american plants until biden won the election. 2 reasons ,the electric car unknowns and the giant tax hikes. Our plant went from endless amounts of work to constant layoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomad Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doc said: They are doing their best to turn NYS into an empty state. It may turn out that even I will be driven from my home state by the lefties. They are working very hard at it. It’s crazy Doc . We had 6 couples / families visit this year who have moved out of NYS . We went to two,parties this summer for two others that are leaving , today at lunch with my sister I,learned my niece just bought a place in Tenn. and is relocating. My sisters ,sister in law is also leaving , her parents also just left . A couple we play cards with once a month just sold their home and are moving to NC, another couple who we only see when our friends who moved to Tenn. come up are also leaving . My other sister is making their Fla home their “ official “ residence selling their large home here and buying a small one for the summers , my hunting partner is doing the same thing for now , but may move full time if their daughter will move her family down . About every couple weeks we learn of someone we know leaving . Edited September 21, 2021 by Nomad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreeneHunter Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 What ????? No more Helicopter for the Gov .... I call BS ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 12 hours ago, Nomad said: It’s crazy Doc . We had 6 couples / families visit this year who have moved out of NYS . We went to two,parties this summer for two others that are leaving , today at lunch with my sister I,learned my niece just bought a place in Tenn. and is relocating. My sisters ,sister in law is also leaving , her parents also just left . A couple we play cards with once a month just sold their home and are moving to NC, another couple who we only see when our friends who moved to Tenn. come up are also leaving . My other sister is making their Fla home their “ official “ residence selling their large home here and buying a small one for the summers , my hunting partner is doing the same thing for now , but may move full time if their daughter will move her family down . About every couple weeks we learn of someone we know leaving . It is only family that is keeping me here right now. But if they start messing with my basic transportation, I won't really have any choice. I can't afford government experiments in the way I get around. The Democrats have a habit of cutting off supplies and procedures before the technology is ready to go forward. This is just another example. I can't afford Democrats. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApexerER Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 15 hours ago, Nomad said: It’s crazy Doc . We had 6 couples / families visit this year who have moved out of NYS . We went to two,parties this summer for two others that are leaving , today at lunch with my sister I,learned my niece just bought a place in Tenn. and is relocating. My sisters ,sister in law is also leaving , her parents also just left . A couple we play cards with once a month just sold their home and are moving to NC, another couple who we only see when our friends who moved to Tenn. come up are also leaving . My other sister is making their Fla home their “ official “ residence selling their large home here and buying a small one for the summers , my hunting partner is doing the same thing for now , but may move full time if their daughter will move her family down . About every couple weeks we learn of someone we know leaving . I know it was a rainy summer but i didn't think the weather was that bad here.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 California will cease to allow the sale of gasoline-powered cars in the state by 2035. California’s regulatory overlords are so eager to engage in virtue signaling that they ignore the devastating environmental and human costs of electric cars. Newsom is merely outsourcing suffering. This me-first attitude blinds the regulators to the harm their policies create elsewhere in the world, a harm that also goes directly against their stated goals. Save the Environment: Drive a Gas-Powered Car | Intellectual Takeout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 So sometime in the next 14 years we are going to have to figure out how to blanket the landscape with those huge wind farms and acres and acres of solar farms so that we can handle the new electric demands of transportation. How much of the national electronic grid will have to be rebuilt or fortified? Well I suppose the government can also put out mandates involving the elimination of non-transport electronic drains on the grid system. They are getting good at regulating and controlling the citizens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 People in these crazy blue states will still be able to buy cars in "free" states though, so these crazy blue states are not going to achieve what they think they will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 49 minutes ago, Grouse said: People in these crazy blue states will still be able to buy cars in "free" states though, so these crazy blue states are not going to achieve what they think they will. What they can't achieve with these crazy laws they will achieve through taxation. Even at the pump if that is what they have to do to get their way. Consider for a minute how they used taxation to control citizen smoking. They have perfected the technique of behavior modification through taxation. They can do what ever they want and the voter will never rebel. At least not here in NYS. Yes, the voters can get as angry as they want, but that anger never gets as far as the voting booth. We ARE a socialist state already and NYS government has mastered the technique of using the power that that system affords them. You can buy what ever you want, but getting to use a product that the state government does not approve of may be a very different story. There is no 2nd Amendment for car choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 My Brother-in-law asked a simple question that I had no answer for. He asked how long does it take to fill up a battery for an all electric car. I know that filling my car with gas is a rather brief interruption in my life that uses maybe 5 minutes total foe each fill-up. But if I had an all electric car, and my batteries were getting low, how long would my car have to be side-lined at a charging station before I could resume my driving? Another question that puzzles me is, what is the average life of the batteries that these cars use? And what does it cost to replace them when they refuse to take a charge? How about the massive disposal cost and difficulties that occurs with these. I have to confess total ignorance when it come to these batteries, but do we have any electronics wizards here that know the answers to these questions? Are electric cars God's gift to the planet that we are being told? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Lucky Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 36 minutes ago, Doc said: My Brother-in-law asked a simple question that I had no answer for. He asked how long does it take to fill up a battery for an all electric car. I know that filling my car with gas is a rather brief interruption in my life that uses maybe 5 minutes total foe each fill-up. But if I had an all electric car, and my batteries were getting low, how long would my car have to be side-lined at a charging station before I could resume my driving? Another question that puzzles me is, what is the average life of the batteries that these cars use? And what does it cost to replace them when they refuse to take a charge? How about the massive disposal cost and difficulties that occurs with these. I have to confess total ignorance when it come to these batteries, but do we have any electronics wizards here that know the answers to these questions? Are electric cars God's gift to the planet that we are being told? I have heard tesla is getting the charging down rapidly, like 5 minutes. As far as longevity of batteries, i have seen a few already with less than 500 miles with dead cells. As of now cells not service separate from battery pack, but that will change. Auto manufacturer warranty seem to be covered 12 yr, 120k or more, so cost to consumers are low. Disposal, as of now all have to be returned to manufacturer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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