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  1. Meat Manager
    As usual thanks for parsing my words. It only took you two thread pages. In my quote you'll notice I used the phrase "local populations." Obviously local conditions prevail. That said I don't need an education on population management from someone who openly admits that arrow costs and dragging difficulty prevent you from harvesting does. Denying the accuracy or precision of the DECs numbers makes it easier to justify a lazy decision. Again is the DEC perfect...no. Are they better at collecting data and managing the wildlife across the state than say a handful of message board members, yeah. I'll keep filling tags. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Who is better equipped to manage the state's wildlife then? If you report your harvests you are part of this management report. The reason they have to hand out a ridiculous amount of permits is because only 1 in 6.5 is getting filled. If they hand out 82 DMPs in a square mile it's because that's how many you have to hand out to get 12 doe harvested. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    I would say this is my least favorite "statement of the entire thread." Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Sure you can do it...but over time it will have a negative impact on the animals you seek. The OBR was brought up in relation to buck age structure and pop management. So if you want hunting to be a sustainable practice you will comply with the state management plan and help reduce pop numbers. This is what I refer to as the hunters responsibility to help monitor and manage the local population. That all said OBR is not in effect in NY and I would take two mature bucks in a season if one or both were with bow. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    I imagine you saying that in valley girl style..."worst idea ever, gag me with a spoon." The button aspect is a legit concern with EAB in terms of buck age management, but what is "up," and what were the results in pop reduction? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    That's a good point I had not thought of before. My main concern is emphasizing the importance of filling the doe tags you have. I do feel like 2 bucks per season promotes a culture of buck only hunting...I would agree that it is a separate issue from population management. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    I agree 100% with that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    I'm not necessarily against mandatory AR (prefer voluntary), and I'm not talking about manner of taking (nice attempted thread jack on page 2). The topic is the DECs deer take press release and numbers and THEIR emphasis on a hunters responsibility of population management (as well as the implication of state intervention in this respect). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    I agree with dmps and dmaps only for antler-less harvest no either sex or antler-less tags. I totally disagree about EAB...it's working in Central/Southern NJ first 2 weeks of archery. Encourages bow hunters to harvest breeders early prior to all kinds of pressure. Does not require check station so it's basically voluntary in the enforcement sense. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    DMPs are not handed out to balance the herd but to reduce it, so they must feel 4y is not overpopulated. Although I believe your personal experience it seems to be the exception rather than the rule statewide. Both anecdotally and statistically guys eat tags way more often than fill them (1 in 6.5 DMPs filled). Besides holdouts of the outdated mindset of not shooting does ever, many guys wait until late season when it's harder to score or they don't want to "sacrifice" buck hunting time. All of these mindsets and tactics disregard a hunters responsibility to manage populations. The DECs message is simple (and I agree): Fill antler-less tags early and often or snipers and farmers will be shooting your giants bald at midnight in May. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  11. Meat Manager
    It's just annual and perennial clover, fescue and rye...more for shady ground cover than forage. It was basically an early spring grass seeding on a logging trail. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Ok parse my words. I was implying that the process was "starting" to have an impact. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    I agree with the main points expressed: 1. Hunters must choose to shoot more does (or deal with culls and red tags could be implied) 2. Hunters are starting to choose to pass on yearlings, this is a good trend. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Yeah I'm high on ph anyway so no lime. Using the Egyptian wheat as a screen in a long strip, not planting any annuals under it. It's going to be the last planting this spring. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Managing deer populations and processing lots of meat as a result of harvesting as many does as I have tags for especially in problem areas (7j,7f, DMFA, PA 5c & 3d, NJ 7). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Everything up over last year and above 5 yr average but buck take which could point to a trend in passing yearlings...just conjecture on my part. Plenty of deer to be had...note 650,000 permits to take 99,000 baldies. So 1 in 6.5 DMPs get filled...I'll be attempting to fill all my tags again next season. Wish there was a nuisance tag number to go along with the dmap numbers on the chart. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Logging trail is doing nicely...early spray knocked down any fresh competition and the strategy of seeding it prior to the last snow also seemed to work. The only green on the trail is my sprouting seed: I also did the first round of spray on forage plot 1: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    It is also my first year on a new lease property. I got a call today from a state policeman who lives on a nearby property and asked if he and his wife may continue to respectfully use the 4 wheeler roads to walk his dogs as he has for years. That is why I put my number on the signs...for the potential good guys who will actually call for permission. He mentioned he noticed the increase in posted signs and wanted to give me a call (mission accomplished). I gave him permission to continue walking up there in non-hunting months. We then discussed how much those trails get used by non-respectful 4 wheelers and snowmobiles. I asked him if he encountered anyone else to pass on the "New Management, No Tresspassing!" Ofcourse he said no problem. I am hoping this is a good first step towards cooperative relationships with the neighbors and leveraging that into additional boundary enforcement. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  19. Meat Manager
    I got my 2 yr old son the same floating spongebob combo (no bluegills that day, ha): Bluegills are the best eats...just need a dozen a head. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  20. Meat Manager
    I'm pretty sure the does are in charge of the breeding and my point was that many factors contribute to breeding activity sightings....I'm not excluding age or any other factor. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Archery category? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    I harvested 7 of 8 deer in a peak lunar phase last season. I am aware that photoperiod triggers biological changes at fairly fixed dates and hot does will get bred; However a hunter's likelihood of observing breeding behavior is effected by things like extreme weather and lunar phase. That said I'd never plan on it being good months in advance with any certainty...bad weather is more likely to influence sightings than prime lunar conditions would. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    I'm in Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    Started on forage plot 1 this afternoon: Raked it clean and spread 1 round of fertilizer...gonna spray next week. On the utility plot that brief inch of snow cover appears to have worked the Logging Trail seed in well: Also I received my final spring seeds...some peas and WGF sorghum: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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    +1 in PSE grips reducing torque. I've got the 2012 bow madness xs...it's a deer slayer. After 5000 shots in the first 3 months I had it last spring I don't bother shooting groups anymore...too many busted arrows. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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