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  2. My comment about eminent domain was in response to the previous reply about the gas transport pipelines that cross both participating and non-participating properties.
  3. ^^^ All good! Clearly the question about prior hunting experience has to be asked also. If they have never hunted before, a lot more background info needs to be supplied and further questions asked. Transitioning from deer hunting with one weapon to another is a little more straight forward. Lots of questions and even more soul searching needed!!!
  4. The real choice depends on what your motives and goals are in hunting. It is an individual choice that involves a bit of an inward look to determine what you personally want to get out of your hunting. Do you need more or less challenge in your hunting? For you, is there some personal attraction to the experience of using one weapon over the other? What level of dedication do you have to become expert at your weapon of choice? Some people don't give a damn what weapon they use as long as they can harvest some meat. For others, it is all about the weapon. Your choice will have to be your choice and based on your own personal approach to hunting.
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  6. In general, I would say that I agree about age vs. challenge. However, I am reminded of all those hunts where it was a little snot of a fawn that blew the whistle on me while the more adult deer simply concentrated on filling their face. And then there are the mature bucks that make absolute asses of themselves during that special time of the year when they are staggering through the woods in search of some "action". If you want to hunt the epitome of wariness and intelligence, go after that old seasoned doe who has spent her entire life not only looking out for herself, but also her annual offspring. And almost always, she doesn't have a single antler point on her head. Sometimes the challenge is simply the quantity of eyes and ears that you are facing rather than any particular gender or antler features. There is only one bona fide super challenge posed by that heavy-horned buck, and that is simply that they are more rare in numbers. That is what truly makes a older buck a trophy. There simply are not as many of them in the woods. and every body and their brother are trying to change that element of challenge. And so for many, "hunting prowess" is based not so much on the smartest, but more on the randomness of numbers. And, it has been shown time and again that such randomness is more a result of being in the right place at the right time, or another way of putting it ....... luck. But this whole idea of earning peer respect via increased challenge is brought into question by the constant movement of hunting away from challenge. Just looking at the most popular changes in hunting indicates that most people work very hard at eliminating challenge. We grow special plots to attract deer. With very, very few exceptions, we seek out weapons that give us special advantages. We would bait if it were legal. We have taken primitive rifles and re-designed them such that they are no more of a challenge than any modern day rifle. We hunt places that are known to have more deer. And on and on. There is no special quest for "challenge". Quite the opposite....we are constantly moving hunting toward removing challenge. So it all still leaves me wondering why antler size is our yardstick of success. To me the guys who bowhunt the deep woods of the Adirondacks with simple primitive equipment are the guys that really take on challenge in a very serious way, and there aren't really very many actually doing that.
  7. Interesting question I actually had asked of me while shopping for footwear at Dick's Sporting Goods. I did have a BowTech hat on, so a guy came over and asked the same thing as OP of this topic is inquiring about. First thing I asked was his age and if he had any physical limitations. Next was what his expectations were for taking up archery hunting, with any type of bow. Initially getting into shooting a compound bow has a lengthy and steep learning curve to become at least semi-proficient! Many hours &/or days of practice are required each follow-up year to keep proper form and consistency. Obviously having a knowledgeable mentor will be really helpful and reduce the learning curve somewhat. BTW - Needing any corrective vision (glasses!) can be an issue using a compound bow, esp if you wear trifocals. With a Xbow, after the initial couple of hours of familiarizing yourself with the Xbow & sighting in using the scope, there's probably less than an hour of practice needed each follow-up year. Major benefit of using a Xbow is there is NO holding the bow at full draw waiting for a shot opportunity. Contrary to any mis-beliefs, you only add ~10yrds to your max effective range over a compound bow's range. As of now, there's a fairly long bow season when using a compound bow and during a time of year when the weather is much nicer than any gun season. Xbow season is only 2 weeks long in the SZ, but that may change in the next couple of years...!?! Once you get confident with shooting either type of bow, the real learning experience begins. How to hunt the fall woods and getting up close & personal with the deer. Pretty sure any of the gun hunters that have jump on the Xbow bandwagon will tell you, they are completely different types of hunting and skill-sets required. Best advice is to look around and if you can shoot each type of bow. FYI - Do NOT believe most of the BS spewed by the clerks in the big box sporting goods stores. Best advice comes from the privately owned bow shops whose owners & workers are hunters also. Hope this helps! Good luck!
  8. The weather sure has made it tough on everyone this year. A lot of guys around here are just wrapping up planting 60 day corn according to my neighbor. Pretty glad I didn't invest in summer plots this year, other than the frost seeded clover and chicory. Which is surprisingly doing pretty good. Need to spray it and maybe mow again to combat some grasses coming in thicker than I'd like. I'm seeing good apples here too, I have probably 20-30 apple trees scattered all around and none of them produced anything last summer. This year it's looking good! I feel your pain on the spraying grow. I originally planned on spraying this new field I got after it was cut. But after talking with my neighbor, I agree with him on skipping the spraying and moldboard plow it instead to flip it over to kill it. He says he has much better luck doing it that way around our area. His farming experience is older than I am so I'll take his word for it. Going to try skipping the discing after plowing too, he says we will do it on a day when it's just a bit damp and I can drag my drag harrow around with the quad and that should smooth it out well enough. I agreed with this too, my drag really does tear some stuff up, a lot more than I would have imagined.
  9. I've given up on even summer plots...I mowed them except the WW. Can't spray with daily down pours. The one I did early grew back in. So today I disced up weeds and all along the road frontage strip and from Rivers blind to the end of laneway plot. Even with liming last year the soil is acrid smelling. I dropped 4 bags of lime there and 2 in the old clover fruit tree plot. That will need spraying more lime, and moss killer. Then worked for a fall clover/alfalfa ww plot front will be turnips / clover. Lane way. A mix....Just not a good plot year here. Much more lime is needed all over...The hay plot is greening up,fear with lots of weeds. Will have very few acorns..good apples. No corn a lot less clover,tons of beech nuts. I'm not going to worry about it..I can't control the weather so I'll just do what I can...drop lots of trees for one much canker ,so many dead and dying maple.It's a good thing I have so much wild clover growing around the place.berry patches are doing great and expanding..excellent feed and cover.
  10. So you still took it as some sort of attack and got nasty....It wasn't,I won't appologize for my opinion ,that wasn't trolling . Your responce didnt surprise me.
  11. No...actually near a 100 acre homestead we nearly bought years ago. Mr B switched companies in the middle of nogotiations and we decided to back out....Glad, skeeter must be nasty there. Back road in Wayland not too far from pokeymoonshine..
  12. Fill the freezer and enjoy nature while doing so.
  13. Ultimate goal will be taking a big mature buck during bow but I'll be happy just to see a good one to know he's around. Mostly looking forward to enjoy long sits over this new food plot I'm working on right now. It will be my biggest and best yet. A lot of work going into it so it will be nice to see it full of greenery and deer feeding in it. Hoping to either buy a box blind, or might end up building one on this new food plot so I can take my two little boys out with me during gun season. Waiting on our yearly bonuses from work to see if I'll buy or build haha. Enjoy every minute out there like I do every fall. Watching the sun rise and set and seeing Mother Nature in all her glory is the best feeling in the world at 20ft up a tree.
  14. #1-Have fun and enjoy every last second I can in the woods #2-Get that big buck that's been walking around my grandparents property or at least get some trail cam pics of them #3-Try to get at least 3 deer this year so I can smoke one and turn another into sausage and dried sausage #4-Call in another buck this year #5-Get a coyote
  15. Two items that I have not seen mentioned, and that helped me with the two bucks I killed last season are a laser range finder and a pedestal/hammock tree seat. I used the range finder to sight some objects around my stand and that allowed me to know the exact range and to put the arrow in the right spot on the buck that I killed on our farm with my crossbow last fall. The tree seat is light weight, easy to carry, and cost less than $ 20. It allows comfortable shooting 360 degrees around and is simple to use. Last season I made the best 50 yard shot of my life from that seat to kill my late-season Adirondack buck. I can't complain about my Barnett Recruit crossbow. I like it's low cost, small size, and ease of handling. I think it is the perfect crossbow for the 13 days that NY state allows it's use. It has got the job done for me each time I used it, dropping the bucks dead in sight or close enough to hear crash. I have also had good service from the previously mentioned muff with handwarmer, and mostly good (3 out of 5) with the Butt-out II last year. There is lot's of good stuff out there, but the most worthwhile is the large-print NIV Bible that I carry in my pack most of the time and read a couple pages from nearly every morning. That was about the best $ 5 that I have spent, and has directly contributed to all of the deer that ended up in our freezer over the last 5 years or so.
  16. So we had dinner with our former comptroller, he left To work for this company. They supply malt to Stone and Sierra Nevada Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  17. #1 See my 13 year old grandson, kill his first deer! #2 Shoot a deer with my bow, after shoulder surgery in May. #3 Shoot a deer with my new to me Sako 85 Classic in 270. #4 Enjoy every second that I'm out there.
  18. 1) Give God thanks and all of the credit for allowing me to cleanly kill enough deer to provide my family with enough meat to last until the 2018 season. We are going to have a tough time eating all the vacuum-sealed venison in the freezer that He blessed us with last season, so two average-sized deer will probably be enough this fall. 2) Practice sufficiently and select shots such that every one gets the job done and minimizes meat-damage. 3) Fill a DMP tag with a mature doe and donate it to a "feed the hungry" program thru a local processor. 4) Help a friend from work get his first antlered buck with his crossbow. 5) Help someone recover a poorly hit deer using the blood-glow tracking agent that I purchased a few years ago. I have heard great things about this stuff and would like to see it work. Every deer I have shot at since having it has dropped dead in it's tracks or close enough to hear crash, so I have not had a chance to try it. 6) Kill a 2-1/2 yr old or older Adirondack buck while still hunting with my new lever action rifle using open sights. 7) Kill an antlered buck during the late ML season.
  19. There is no doubt that list is 100% spot on. For those of us that find,scout,hunt and kill mature bucks no this. Yes we all get lucky at times but to pick a target mature buck and then go kill that buck? Yeah i guess so.
  20. The hand warmers!!!!! What would I do without them! They have literally sent deer to the freezer, by keeping me out there, "just a little longer"!
  21. Is that the south end of the West Lake Rd along Honeoye Lake, just north of Naples? You know, the spot with the swamp RIGHT next to the road??
  22. I was driving north of Lake George in Chestertown, New York in the mid 70's and saw this snapping turtle on the road. I thought that it was alive and went to get it off the road, but found that it was dead. Maybe he got rolled over by a passing car because it wasn't damaged. I picked it up and later I skinned and mounted him. I'm glad that don't see too many hit by cars. Nice job Grow.
  23. Not picking on you tree guy it's just that your quotes are a prime example of what has been a repeat theme in this thread. As I said before.... types of put downs without realizing it... The thought that all 31/2 year olds were easy hunts for the ones that got them, thus lesser deer then a 41/2 Assumptions that the "trophy" guys put more of everything into getting their deer. It's there in black and white several places in here... So, we can agree I never said young deer, or any deer was easy to kill, so scratch #5 off your list and then take a moment to read your list back to yourself..... Other than luck, do you really think #1-4 aren't true ? Do you think it's an insult to anyone for me to say those things ?? To all those folks out there that took offense to me mentioning the fact that trying to take mature deer may be #1-4 and found that offensive or a stab to make myself look better or whatever grow thinks I'm trying to say, I dont apologize. We all know this thread was started to get everybody stirred up, and in true fashion we all play along. Thanks for picking on me grow... Best troll I've had in awhile Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk
  24. Had to look. Kokanee :70 rating Genny :66. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  25. Kill a few doe...don't get hurt, make clean kills with quick recoveries, enjoy myself, and get at least one nice surprise.
  26. Hope to get out more this year and have better routine.
  27. One and done tonight. Nice slow sipper at 13% Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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