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International shipping is an option but i think the end user had to be resident of that country as well as getting an ECOWAS permission letter, the shipping and freight fees were about 2000 dollars for that particular country, i was quoted by Rob at CZCUSTOMS . My AR was in one piece, in a Herters soft case unscoped inside my main pink bag, i have posted pix as proof. The police asked Air France manager if that was ok to have the AR in a soft case and the response was yes ; I had a hard case in the X6 just in case . Even though my buddies have travelled from CT and PA to JFK with out of state firearms, told me the procedure, I still went and did my own research at the source which included having the manager calling France to know how many firearms were allowed. There is nothing wrong with Being overly cautious , here is Port authority police once again if anyone reading the thread has questions 718-244-4335. On the international side, make sure you have a permit which allows you to bring the firearms there; I added the application record that I presented to Port authority police in JFK. I will have to ask, some names were too technical for me. In the country we went the most popular calibers were 30-06, 223, 308 , 375HH and few others i cannot recall . Talking about which We went to visit a gun shop there called OUAGAARM to buy ammo and got turned down for trying to buy 223 and 308 ammo which is supposedly only allowed to law enforcement but were able to get anything else. i heard very positive comments about these Blaser while talking to local hunters, i can see you were always well prepared and appreciate your input in this thread . Most game are tough on that continent and would take a 375 and run like there is no tomorrow. Never seen a Gemsbok but saw an Oryx while jet skiing on a trail infested with birds, i uploaded a pict . 2 holes is something any hunter should believe in for clean humane kills on top of good ammo and practice. I forgot to mention that our firearms were kind of WET when we opened the cases almost like they were kept frozen. Beer for dinner sounds like a good deal. No offense taken, this thread is mostly about safety measures and sharing personal experiences meaning nothing is off topic . Port authority police or Air France never told any of us anything about registering the ARs in NY, but a cop said he will call PA police to let them know i was at the airport while he was running my firearms serial numbers. That 24 hour rule is what Port authority police told me right after they asked me how long i have been in nyc with the firearms. When i called them, the person over the phone told me to come straight from PA to JFK and not to hang around. When i went to JFK few days before the trip they told me to make sure my name matches on both firearms and drivers license for the handguns. If there is Safe Act I was worried about was France simply because I am from there and cannot own these firearms there, yet was transiting for 7 long hours. Technically we could not own AR or pistols in France, NYC and Africa but all those have very fair rules when it comes to hunting trips. Fair enough Steve, most of my smaller big game kills were with the 308, although the 223 was very effective on pigs and goats. I couldnt agree more on budget priced firearms shooting great nowadays. Meeting few fellow hunters at our office in Africa as well as local hunters opened a whole new hunting network for years to come, guided hunts got boring very quick; Like Dinsdale said it is addicting.

Lol, thanks for rubbing it on my face , i neglected this trip until the day before and went to cabelas in hamburg to find out it cost roughly 3000 dollars for remington 700 african big game which is what both coworkers own. Guess i will start putting milk and cookies for santa. I am more of a target shooter than a hunter anyways, and my buddies and i agreed on me bringing handguns so we can all shoot variety of firearms. Target shooting in Africa is WAY BETTER than anywhere we have ever been, those handguns were not intended for any types of hunting, there were more game roaming around that i can possibly dream of, however bringing my glock 30s was a tragic mistake as we did not get any 45 acp ammo around .I do not own anything more than a 308 howa axiom, which was useless since my buddy was bringing his 308. LESSON LEARNED THE HARD WAY Good subject, i will look into it. I just know about exporting a gun there but that is a whole other thread.

Sounds like you had fun in Canada . Lol at lettuce, what was so different between customs at JFK and Canada? Yes sir, hogs,rabbits, bunch of birds and a waterbuck. i was really upset because the rancher was prohibiting us from eating any types of wild meat because of Ebola. Nice profile picture by the way. The facial expression of the teller was priceless when she asked me if i had more than one gun, if i was in the military and why i needed so many firearms. That bag falling is a good one, thanks for sharing, lol. Dinsdale, Not only they opened it in the middle of everyone in the concourse but they made me pull all the firearms from the case and rocked the slides in front of everyone around, i saw people pointing, whispering....they looked terryfied and disgusted specially when the cop pulled the AR from its case, i heard OMG WOW. I am laughing at it now but it was not that funny back then, LOL I do not have the words to describe that continent, it is like a black plaque; from target shooting to hunting, pest control at night ,pigs and goats management in the morning, fishing, riding and shotting from horses, riding dirtbikes like a maniac .i am totally coming back next year with some serious fire power! what guns did you bring over if you do not mind me asking? my coworkers had some 375 HH as their primary hunting riffles. At the airport when we landed they had this device to check our body temperature for signs of ebola I hear your pain, finding someone to watch over your dog is as hard as finding some CCI mini mags ammo in cabelas , i heard about dog hotels but have no idea how much that cost. Thanks again for the advices , much appreciated I did not get away with anything in that trip, like i said way up Port authority police called their station with the name ,model and serial number of all my firearms; their main concern was that the guns were really mine and had way more interest in the handguns the AR. My two buddies are from CT and PA and had three AR chambered in 223, 308 and 450 bushmaster in their rifles arsenal; my glock 17 has three 17 rounds mag and one 33 rounds mag. According to police we were considered to be in transit in nyc which is legal for 24 hours only. I personaly took receipts at toll booths and macdonald to back my words up in case my X6 with PA plates looked suspicious on my way to jfk In the country we were ,an AR cannot be own by a civilian because those calibers are just for military personnel , range owners and collectioners .... Could not agree more on Dinsdale being right on the procedure, guess i owe him more than a beer now

Dang , i totally forgot to update this thread, been having too much fun shooting and hunting. Excuse any typos , I am using an azerty keyboard. So i went to JFK couple of hours before the flight. Went straight to the counter and declared i had firearms; the terrified lady asked how many then called her manager who quickly called port authority police. Within 20 seconds I was hanging with three cops who were asking simple questions like: how long have you been in nyc with those firearms, why taking the plane in nyc and not in Pennsylvania, why so many guns. Then asked for the pistols paperwork (I showed my application/record sale), my driver’s license and official documents allowing the entry of my firearms in Africa. I didn’t have any paperwork for my AR as PA doesn’t issue any but the cops said it was fine and were only interested in the handguns. After which he called his station to give the firearms serial numbers, meanwhile his buddy told me to pull of the firearms to the ground and started inspections, he safety check the firearms for clear chambers and empty magazines. Needless to say passengers in that area were terrified watching, especially when the cops pulled the AR out. I wish this could have been done elsewhere but in front of every travelling person. They got a call about the serial numbers, told me I was clear and told me to close the bag; the manager of air France said she needs to weight my ammo before the bag is checked because apparently there will be a lot a lot of ammo going in. I had to take out 100 rounds of 45acp and told me in french that if I was the only passenger on board with ammo it wouldn’t be an issue. The cops escorted me to the TSA bags section and said I didn’t have to lock my bags, which I quickly locked! I brought my some firearms that I wanted to test long range: glock 17 gen4, glock 30s gen4, smith and Wesson shield, ruger sr9c, keltec p32 and Mp 15-22 Cops said it was ok to have out of state guns in nyc for less than 24 hours as its considered in-transit; they also said not to mistakenly bring the 100 rounds of through the gate as it is a serious matter. It was a quick good experience; those cops were very helpful and professional! We landed safely, the rancher came to the airport police station with bunch of paperwork because civilians are not allowed to own more than two firearms no bigger than 9mm unless it is for hunting or range practice purposes. I totally forgot to bring the form 4457! A rancher gave me some cci standard velocity which made me realize the 22lr ammo crisis has been hard on me, grrrrr! I stretched my firearms and shoot all kinds of other rifles and pistols. Took shoots from a galloping horse at wild pigs with my bear anarchy. I felt under gunned when the hunting period came as I did the tragic mistake of not bringing a high powered riffle even though I am more of target shooter. My two coworkers had only brought rifles luckily for me. I will say this out loud: BRING THE BIGGEST RIFFLE YOU CAN IF YOU GOING TO HUNT IN AFRICA EVEN IF YOUR MAIN CONCERN IS TARGET SHOOTING. Thanks to Dinsdale and others that chimed in HAVE FUN HUNTING AND SHOOT SAFE FOLKS.

Dinsdale, thanks for the info, i thought i could share my experience with you guys, i appreciate your input, it is all about enjoying the sport. I will post pictures next week after the experience. The police told me that no paperwork is needed for the long rifles , but called my the FFl that did the long guns transfer and he will give me a copy of the form 4473-Atf . The air plane company would call port authority police when we get there. I will use your form 4457, nothing to loose.Air france told me that we are keeping the keys of the locks after the police inspect it in front of me and close it. The air plane has been notified about 5 times,lol , and we have individual paperwork( from PA) of each firearm as well as paperwork from the country we are going into allowing us to bring those guns for sporting purposes in english and french. Hopefully the cops inspect the firearms somewhere discret, would hate to hear an anti gun person . Where overseas did you go? is 11lbs of ammo really enough to target shoot and hunt with?

Whole can of worms indeed as you have to comply with the country you are going into firearm rules. We are going to west Africa maybe South Africa after, and yes they have serious rules about pistols. Handguns from non residents can only stay in their country for 90 days,only for target shooting purposes and cannot be used as CCW at any times. You need to check with the air plane website and give them a call to say you are bringing guns and ammo. They have different rules, Brussels airlines for example only takes 2 firearms and have to fit inside your check-in baggage (unless you want to pay a separate luggage) , and ammo have to be separate from the firearm from what a representative told me over the phone. It's probably easier to travel locally. 718-244-4335, Port authority police number. You have a very valid point here sir. The last thing we want is to be part of a "gun statistic " in nyc. We did our homework on that, you can travel to the ariport on the day of the trip from your house straight to the airport, no hanging around, it is considered a "transit". The firearms have to be locked in the trunk with ammo separate, NO CCW .

Hey guys, I have a question and also want to share my experience about traveling with a hunting riffle from Jfk airport overseas for hunting purposes, may be one of you could answer it or suggest something . Long story short, Going with couple of my UN coworkers for a hunting trip next week. I called the air france, they told me I can only have 11lbs of ammo, no limit of the number of firearms(they have to be in hard cases, bring tsa lock, ammo packed separate. ..). I am bringing few pistols with me, I have paperwork for all of them, but none for the rifles.How do I prove the rifles are mine? has anyone traveled with an AR? Port authority police I can carry the firearms in my car trunk and travel from my house straight to the airport. I have called multiple times but keep getting different answers from the police. Nb: i am a PA resident (moved from ny but commute for work) and the FFL i use for my guns told me after NIC background check that no paperwork is issued for ownership beside the sale receipt for long guns; which cabelas from hamburg confirmed yesterday when I picked up my M&P . Thanks guys, shoot safe.

i recently saw tons of greys where i hunt(Otis) in deep bushes but didn't have a clear shoot!In the city,its a different story,they are not afraid because people love feeding them... Airguns definitely work on squirrels....

Elmo and Nyhunter, thanks for the info and advices,really appreciated! I will check sterling and stewart in orange county...hopefully it wont be like OTIS... Thanks again....shoot safe

hey guys...... :bye: Newbie here,i am from nyc,looking for a cool place to hunt .I am looking to hunt small game(rabbits,squirrels......). p.s : i went to OTIS in long island,i saw few deers but didnt see anything else(not even a bird,lol) :angry: Any help would be appreciated. Hunt safe and have fun.....