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Overcoming a defeatist attitude is what makes it ever so much more worthwhile. While I agree with Bubba that the liability factor plays a role in our lives more and more as our species matures it should not stop anyone from "doing the right thing". I tend to be a optimist and find all sorts of ways to complete a goal and there must be others like me otherwise we would have never won our independence from Britain or gotten to the moon. ...lower the hunting age to get kids involved and hooked before all else takes over - I like this lower hunting license cost so ppl can afford to buy them for their family - I don't think paying .27cents per day for a super sportsman is too much. But I understand the cost factor in the overall scheme of things. Rather than increasing the cost of the hunting license every so often, other users of the public lands need to pay their fair share. Hikers, boaters, Cache hunters, Birders, and others seem to be getting a free ride. open up more areas for people to be able to hunt. - there is much NY public land that is open to hunting. Unfortunately those areas are a days drive for most. I live inside the Adirondack Park - so I hunt in my back yard. I think your idea is great, but I can not see it getting off the ground Perseverance

Hunter numbers seem to be declining every year and the reasons could be many. What can be done to help those who do not get initiated into the hunting fraternity by family or friends? I am sure that there are many who would at least LEARN about hunting and then some of those would actually begin to become hunters and keep the tradition alive. Here's an idea! Dicks SG's, Gander and Cabela's all sell equipment to hunters. They have a vested interest in ensuring that their customer base keeps growing and evolving. And my local Gander store already hosts hunter education workshops/classes. What better way to partner with one or all of these outlets to start a mentoring program? They already have the facilities and equipment what remains is the mentors capability and willingness to teach. The store can do the marketing and maintain a list of mentors. The pairing can be done by being at the hunter education class and a sign up list can be posted at all the sales counters. The store could offer a limited time 10-20% mentor program discount to participants and the mentor. This could be a self sustaining program if managed and promoted properly. I plan to meet with our local store managers to see what they think. I think it will work! It will be a three way win - a win for the store - a win for the participant and a win for the mentor. Can a list of mentors be maintained on this site? It should include, name, location to mentor in and contact information. What do you all think?

Good idea. I will start a fresh/new topic in another forum...then lets see if there are could be more responses. I am still going to contact Gander and Dicks in my home town of Plattsburgh, NY

Can a 'MENTOR LIST' be maintained on this site? The list could contain, NAME, REGION LOCATION, CONTACT INFO, MENTORING SPECIALTY

Here's an idea! Dicks SG's, Gander and Cabela's all sell equipment to hunters and anglers. They have a vested interest in ensuring that their customer base keeps growing and evolving. And my local Gander store already hosts hunter education workshops/classes. What better way to partner with one or all of these outlets to start a mentoring program? They already have the facilities and equipment what remains is the mentors capability and willingness to teach. The store can do the marketing and maintain a list of mentors. The pairing can be done by being at the hunter education class and a sign up list can be posted at all the sales counters. The store could offer a limited time 10-20% mentor program discount to participants and the mentor. This could be a self sustaining program if managed and promoted properly. I plan to meet with our local store managers to see what they think. I think it will work as it is a win for the store - a win for the participant and a win for the mentor. What do you think?

The obstacles to overcome are: 1, The mentor and student must be relatively close to one another. 2. Should have a shooting range or large private unoccupied land available 3. Putting the student and mentor together 4. Getting the interested student to contact a mentor and reverse 5. Advertising/Marketing the Mentor Program

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I agree with Elmo totally. Starting with the earliest humans, all men were hunters. Moving through the ages and evolution, men have become more domesticated and the "hunting instinct" is slowly being replaced by "bringing home the days catch" by stopping in at the local neutered food outlets. i.e. BK, McD and the various A&P look alike stores. My, how we have changed. I am willing and able to mentor anyone into the fraternity of hunters. :hunter:I just don't see them lining up or asking...so how can I. What do you all suggest? Ad in the paper? Scrolling banner on the cable TV community channel? I am open for suggestions.

BTW - here are some of my son through his hunting years......mentoring worked! My son's first hunt at 12 years old - pheasant ...his trophy ram in 2007...with his friend in 2009..by himself in 2006...Bear with bow 2010...buck in 2011...bear in 2011...buck #2 2011

Really don't remember exactly when I got an interest in hunting, but I think it was when my parents visited family in Beach Lake, PA. I remember my uncle handing me a single shot .22 and said, "here, go in the back and have some fun shooting". Once I held that rifle, something just "clicked" and a natural instinct took over. That was around 1960 when I was 10 years old. Fast forward...now have hunted in Germany, Spain, Nebraska, Florida, Kentucky and since 1982 back in New York. I like what NFK-ADK writes about getting non-hunters into a thought process that will lead to their entering the realm of being a "HUNTER". For the past few years I was trying to come up with a not-for-profit program that would blossom into a state wide and maybe national mentoring program. I will start a new topic to see what others have to say or have done. For those that are already mentoring - thanks! Send me a note off the boards on how you have organized it.

Welcome!

Welcome and sit back and enjoy.

Welcome aboard - R U still looking to hunt NY?

1x 4R

Got my SS with DMP's at Gander Plattsburgh @ 3 PM today. no problems.

I have a 700BDL in .308 with a serial number of 66280. That's right, only 5 numbers! it was bought new in 1962-63. Bolt does not open with safety on!

Good heads up! I had planned to buy mine tomorrow. I will ask before I proceed. Thanks

I just checked on Ebay and it may be worth it for you to post it there. Check out all the loaders available and what they are going for. Good luck

Geez......I was not so lucky.......2 young guys helped me with my groceries........LOL LOL LOL

What would I do? I would try to separate them so long as I did not put myself in harms way. If I could not, I would leave them alone and come back later to check on them. Eventually one of them would be in a position where the other one could get free. Maybe one will die due to natural causes BUT I would not shoot one. This is called SHOOTING not HUNTING! Let nature take its course.

Great pics - what kind of camera are you using?

Hi Geepee - wish you had posted this a couple of months ago. I ended up ordering my hulls and now have plenty. Your price right. I do like that 16 gauge re-loader and it looks very robust. I use a Lee loader that I purchased in 1977 - although not as beefy as yours it does load nice shells, came with all the shot and powder bushings you will ever need and works well. $29.00. I think your market for your loader is a "collector of loaders". Unless your loader comes with all bushings you may have a hard time selling it. IMHO You can buy a brand new Lee 16 gauge loader for $80.00 . http://www.amazon.com/Precision-Shotshell-Reloading-Press-Multi/dp/B002SF4WNQ

Welcome to the group - eh.