Thanks! I'll take a look. One person asked, via email, a key question re the hulls, so I checked. ALL of them have primers that are non-209s. Again, I had no idea 16s early on didn't use a 209 primer. I've used 209s in 12s for ages. I put the hulls on craigslist, as someone may have use of them. If no, then landfill.