Jaeger

Have a Tikka stainless lite in .204 ruger that is super accurate. Have and use for my on the move deer hunting a Tikka compact in .308 winchester with 165 gr woodleighs that is also super accurate and has the exchangable recoil pad to shorten the lop for heavy winter clothing. Both these guns have synthetic stocks. The Tikka's are, in my humble opinion, the best deal for the money if you are looking for an accurate gun at a reasonable (some would call it bargain basement) price. The only thing that turns me off personally, are that they use the spring loaded plunger eject system rather than a blade type ejector. But my .308 with those 165's is easily a 3/4 inch for 3 shots gun. What a confidence builder!! You cannot go wrong with one.

That was what I was thinking. If I dig in earth anchors now and put in depressions, by the time trapping season roll around the scent will be gone and I won't have to spend as much time at each set when I put the MB's in and cover them. Just got to get the locations right, say 3-4 feet off multi-trail intersections. Any anti-freeze (not the car type you guys!!) advice for the pan tension/pan pivot? graphite? What do you set your pan tension at? I've got great MB drags, but hesitate to use them when there's a lot of snow.

You missed my point. Like Paula stated many people just dont know the law. We are on this site and talk about it all the time but we all know people who have been hunting forever and haven't read the regs. in the past 20yrs. People who get the "rules" from others who supposedly read them. The "that's the way it's always been" crowd. The point is, if he asked permission for another property he may not be a bad apple, then again he might. Why jump all over him before he finds out. Then if he is runing afoul of the law, deal with it in a progressive manner. Let him know he can't do it. As stated above, let him know you don't want it near you as it puts you at risk. Then let him know that the loca ECO is always welcome on your property. That one has worked for me in the past. I play by the rules and have no reason to fear the ECO's. My hunts have been more disturbed by joy riding atv'ers than eco's on patrol. To jump and scream ridiculous stuff (some of it above) is not productive.

Shawnhu- do hunt them, have a post on .22 hornet going elsewhere. Stoneam2006, When do you anticipate setting in your earth anchors? I'm thinkin in putting some in along historic travel trails pre deer season/ground freeze and leaving the loop end exposed to I can hook them up after deer season and frozen ground if it looks promising. Good idea about the K9 proofing. Let's keep those idea going as most of us have k9's in our areas. Wilderness trapping is something I'd love to do but I live in farm country and lets face it, nowadays the coyotes are closer to home.

I did mostly small food plots up to an acre with my john deer 4wd gator (pre-roll cage) and a plotmaster. The seeder on the plotmaster was pretty worthless but having the disks, drag and roller on one piece of equip. really saved trips back and forth to the barn. And, more importantly, it had a great weight advantage, about 450lbs, over other just disk devices, really helped in breaking up ground. Very easy to manuver in tight spots or odd shaped plots. I used a tow behind spreader for the lime/fertilizer/large seeds like power plant and a hand spreader for the smaller seeds like clovers and brassicas. I took the plow tines off as they grab too much grass in breaking ground and dredge up way, way too many rocks. We got 3 rocks for every dirt up here. This system maxed out at about 1 1/2 acres, I tried to do bigger plots but felt like a nascar driver after about the 499th loop around the field, really not efficient for large plots.

Around here is seems to be bolt actions in .308 winchester. Less kick than the 30-06 and shorter barrels for the most part are the reasons they mention.

I agree completely. Efficiency and political pressures not challange is their focus.

I agree with Doc and First-light. Give him the benifit of the doubt. You said he asked for and negotiated permission to hunt a portion of neighboring property. On the surface it sounds like a decent guy. If he isn't I wouldnt get into a war, unless it turns out he violates your place while pretending to be friendly. I had that happen with a neighbor of mine. Not pretty. As far as a stupid law, there are many. This one is not. Chronic wasting disease is I believe spread from slaiva to saliva (and snot) contact. The point against salt blocks is to prevent an infected deer from passing it on to others by forcing them into tasting the exact same spot. A concentrated salt block is a little different than feeding in a food plot which is legal.

As the title says, I'd like to start this thread about coyote trapping and getting a jump on getting the equipment ready. Our local pack is ravaging everthing in site, no rabbits, no wood chucks, fox are scared or killed off. And I on here at 6 am because the local pack has been howling every night from 11:30-2:30 keeping the dog barking and me not sleeping. Ok, I do have a reason to midly put, dislike them right now. But, snow depth permitting, I will be running my coyote line again this winter. I ve got about 6 4-spring coil spring foot holds MB-650's inside laminated from Adirondack outdoors along with some no name 2 coils. I've also got some great drags and chains along with disposable stakes. Opening question, would you put in disposable stakes along trails now while the ground is unfrozen or just wait till after deer season and use drags. I'd like to continue with other topics as well, such as location choices, baits, lures and visual enticements. I'm in the experimental bobcat zone so I'd better get down to the dec to get the permit, just in case. I'd hate to have to release one. Let's get started, any equipment or methods discussions welcome. War stories as well. Jaeger

Well, I installed the crank cocking device. I cannot do a product review as it is against site policy to post anything but positive product reviews. I understand the liability issues there. Suffice it to say, I'll be using my string bow cocking device shortened as much as possible and standing on my toes while pulling the string handles up to my chest. It is a good workout. And thank you for avoiding the short jokes, at least for now!! Perhaps I shouldn't try to shoot something bigger than I am. Ha! beat ya' to it! But boy am I accurate with it when I do get it cocked!!

And, while not applicable in this thread, the same thing happened with the other primitive weapons season. The muzzleloader season back when they were all side hammer caplocks and flintlocks. Now, smokeless powder, bolt opening, scope sighted, sabot filled, front loading single shots are legal in that season. Don't know any answers, but I do believe it will not be set back to primitive weapons in either. The only logical future end result that I can see is a 2 type season format, broadhead or bullet seasons. Compressed air, multi-shot cross-bow anyone? Oh wait, I think I just saw one in that movie "Van Helsing"! Ha!! I am also old enough to know tha for the most part the word "progress" is a dirty word. God, I'm getting old!

My 7600 pump 30-06, off the shelf, is a 1 1/2" -2" gun with or without its 1-4 scope, use a williams peep when the scope is off. My peep sighted Rossi/Puma 454 lever is a 2" gun and a joy to carry when covering ground or high up in the mountains. My Sako's and Tikka's bolts are all sub 1" guns with the right loads and when I'm doing my part, 2" + when I'm not. My .375 H&H mag. Winchester classis stainless model 70 bolt gun is a 1/2"-3/4" gun with it favorite load and I'm feeling great and calm, but a 3-4" gun when I'm tired or angry. Get my point, my guns are all capable, if they're off it's usually me. As long a the mechanics are solid, scope mount, etc. and the load is good (proven in the past) any bad shooting I can usually trace back to myself. Dont' ge me wrong, my next gun will be a custom job, and it will be a pure mauser actioned rifle. I do love them bolts, but enjoy the others as well.

What would have happened I wonder if the longbow and recurve bow hunters had succeded in keeping those modern, mechanical compound bows out of the "traditional/primitive weapon archery season" back in the '70's. Maybe the compound bow hunters should think about that. And that was back when compounds were shot with fingers or tabs, not releases with triggers. I think the problem is that most compound bow hunters today are too young to remember it, or have it matter to them. Jaeger

Just picked up a lighweight camo shirt at a yard sale for early season squirrel hunting. Opening day passed and I didn't even realize it, it's so hot out. Then I realized I didn't have any real warm weather hunting clothes. So used to hunting in (-) degrees the past few years I didn't even know summers ending!

I just checked the Woodleigh loading manual, they specificall do NOT include any COAL data, just max case length and trim length. Per the manual "COAL has not been included...as Woodleigh feels that it can be very misleading." and "there are a number of criteria that will dictate the usable COL in any individual rifle." They do suggest finding the maximum COAL for your individual rifle by the various known methods. Just thought you'd be interested in their philosophy behind not publishing coal data.

I've seen the progression from longbows/recurves to predominantly compounds in a special season, the bow season, originally established during the longbow/recurve era. I see no reason why either the season goes back to stick bows (longbows/recurves) or progresses to include all mechanically assisted bow "MAC"'s (compounds/cross-bows). However, as one who holds lifetime bowhunting privlege, and has and hunts with longbows, recurves, a compound and a cross-bow, I do believe that us cross-bow hunters should have to take the proper full bowhunter safety course. Being able to hunt with a cross bow with nothing more than reading a few paragraphs in the regs book or site and buying a muzzleloader tags does not seem correct to me. It still shoots a broadhead, and that makes the entire hunt and recovery much closer to bow hunting than rifle/shotgun/muzzleloader hunting. Just my humble opinion. Jaeger

Definitely less dear in the Oneonta to Stamford corridor. I found many dead/frozen carcases over the early spring while out walking the dog. Got below -10 degrees for about 3-4 weeks straight with 4+ feet of snow. Now the coyotes are running them ragged with a lot of road kill. I've been up every night for the past 2 weeks (including tonight since 1am) with the dog barking at the howling coyotes, usually between 1-3am. They're out with the bright moon chasing deer. I haven't seen a rabbit yet this summer! P.s., crazy antlerless permit scheme, in 4O preference points required while right across the street in 4F chances are high, go figure. Guess they have to split up areas some way and using roads makes it easier for people to know what unit they are hunting in.

Please give us an initial impression of the quality of the Woodleighs vs. the Hawks. I am looking at Hawks for my .475. I'll check the Woodleigh manual to see what they say about COAL's.

Found it at the bottom of his butt stock, slip cover page. Sling attaches to the butt cuff and front slips between the barrel and mag., really neat!! Getting a new lever this fall, great ideas there! Thanks for sharing it! Jaeger

Looks great! I really like the cuff idea that does not cover the whole butt of the gun. That way it does not increase the length of pull. One question, it looks like the cuff has the sling attached to it, how well does that work? Does it slip at all? I'll look at his website, but would also be interested in a piece/small cuff over the forearm, perhaps between the barrel and magazine tube to attach the other end of the sling. Really nice work!

I almost purchased a gun through gun broker last eve. but lost the bids. Today I find gunbroker is down (guess luck I didn't win) as well as cabelas gun library. Guns Int., Guns America and Gun Auction are still up. Does anyone have any non-conspiracy theory information about these sites being down today, after yesterdays media shooting. Could they be connected? Has anyone heard any factual information about them going down for policy reasons or perhaps just site work (usually they will post a message, down for site work)?

I remember reading in one of the old hunting regulation guides, in the section with the questions to ECO's at the end, the one need be off the shoulder of the road. Like said above no part of the load may pass over a road.

I do not know about cabelas, but I've tried to sell to Gander in Kingston. Do no be upset if they offer you a really, really low price. They have never offered me anything even close to what I would take for a gun being sold to a gun shop (I realize they need to make a profit, but not even close to a fair offer for a gun to be resold).

Hey, does anyone have or use a .22 hornet and is it reliable enough on our coyotes? I am torn between the new ruger in .17wsm rimfire with a 20 gr. bullet and fast vs a .22 reloadable hornet with a 45 grain pill. Leaning toward the .22 Hornet. Also, is it really that much quieter, given identical barrel lengths, from say a .223, 22-250?

I'll third what Daveboon said. Get a good compass and not only learn to use it but TRUST it. The first few times I went deep woods in the adirondacks I had a gps and my compass and topo map. I got turned around a bit, cloudy day etc. and couldn't believe my compass. I double checked with my gps and the compass was correct. The gps may lose signal or die, the compass wont.