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You are right, Harriman is in NYC. Saw the car parked off the palisades. Was just an image of "Harriman" copy and pasted via iPhone

Thanks a million!

Chris Mothersell, arrowed this monster 17-point from the ground in Jamesville, NY... Onondaga County on 10/17/2014 It's on page two, I thought i was hallucinating when I saw a buck last year w/ crowned antlers vs forked at the ends (marlin 336 misfire), similar to a red stag, nice to see it actually happens to whitetails and that I didn't imagine it.

The problem is the fine for trespassing is less than the taxes paid on the property, cheaper to poach than pay. Wish they suspended licenses for those caught poaching/trespassing whilst hunting

https://journals.lib.byu.edu/spc/index.php/wnan/article/viewFile/29206/27669I tend to favor the scholarly articles by field biologists vs even my experimeces, anecdotes and hunches. This Article from BYU includes yearlings as fawns, but to your point, button bucks, those that are "pushed off" have a >50% higher mortality rate (accounts for hunting) than their sisters, as they do not know what to forage on in the winter or where to bed/yard w/ out the doe to show them. Spoke to a dec officer who relayed the following anecdote/observations about orphaned fawns and the cold winter. Namely he found a fair number of dead fawns on a field edge he patrols regularly in the cold winter gorged on pine needles in solo beds. In any case, didn't mean to impose my will of taking a buck (even a spike), then a yearling, then a fawn, the a doe. Stay safe out there and enjoy the season. Two other thoughts, most large mammals have relatively short gestation periods coupled w/ long periods of rearing - for mental/environmental development. Humans perhaps the longest and other primates. If a deer doesn't learn what to eat, where to find it and when to find it (or even a bear) from its mother; it doesn't innately know. The last thought: in NYS the dec recognizes the "reading" stage and only allows us to take solitary bears.

Buy metal sighs, sharpen back end on the grinder and mount them high (and early in the season, before poachers wear gloves)... ...catch the bums red-handed

Tumbleweave?

In Europe the etiquette is to take the fawns vs the does. I would do the same but hold out for yearlings or bucks (from bow range and a little time in the tree can determine yearlings from does and fawns). The thought is orphaned fawns are never adopted have no idea what to eat in winter or even where to go. May sound cruel to our sensibilities, but I'd take a fawn ahead of a doe. I once did it the other way. Having waited till last day of bow season, she had pushed off her fawns and no buck trailing, field dressing her to see the fawn circling 10 minutes later was one of the worst feelings of my life. Killed two deer w/ one arrow, one through the aorta and lungs, the other very cruelly.

My two cents: looks like it bedded down and you spooked it. Those things seem to be able to run on empty. If you can, just stop and give it time. Get all your stuff in order to butcher etc. put your gear away. Bring lights and pack light.

What do you guys recon is the reluctance to letting people bow hunt? Less deer on road, some people lodging in area and dining generating local revenue, perhaps sell permits, it's quiet and won't disturb neighbors.

Does anyone save urine or tarsal glands (if does have them) in situations like this? Congrats on doe

Seems like it's closed to hunting: I'm amazed. State office wants it to be open said it's up to DEC. If we could get our hands on some vehicle damage reports we may be able to petition.

ill run for office

It's that level of respect for people's property that pervades as much as it frustrates.

Coming back from upstate saw a car parked well off road w/ the hunting decals on the back. Has anyone hunted Harriman? At least the NYS part? Are there permits? Designated parking areas? Any advice would be much appreciated.

"Any advice to keep poachers off your land" is appreciated. Regarding spotlighting, pls do it on your land not others, no need to scope out what they have on their property unless w/ the intent to steal it or drive it off their land. If it is simply a curiosity thing please have the courtesy to only do it post season. It may not be illegal to shine a huge spotlight in your eyes at night but doesn't make it ok for me to do it, simply because I enjoy doing it. Stay safe, respect peoples property, and enjoy the season. Shine your land, state land, areas closed to hunting.

Give her time. Looked like a bit of blood. If holes are high on rib cage blood pools in cavity, maybe a little coughed out etc.

http://www.ask.com/government-politics/should-spotlighting-deer-illegal-af2d40d0af2a9fc6 People rarely find fault with what they enjoy doing. The law should be the basis of moral conduct not the final bar.

Purchase, maintain, pay insurance on, pay taxes on property that is being poached and then judge me. If legality dictated moral conduct, no one would give their seat up for an older lady or even a pregnant one. The law shouldn't be the final bar of conduct people live up to but the minimal one. As a fellow hunter, I wish you an enjoyable, bountiful and safe season.

Peeping toms are one issue (spotlighters); those that break and enter to steal (poachers) are another issue. The cure for both may be measured in grains.

Has anyone else seen deer come in as a result of all the scraping as you use the climber? I always discounted it as finding the right place just coming to late in the morning (when id's see deer as I'd assent) no matter what time I was climbing.

Just because someone is taking a light to look inside your car or home doesn't mean he is going to enter or take anything.I'd like to believe that you are logical, just unwilling to find fault with something you enjoy doing. Would you take a super-powerful light and shine it in someone's eye at night, their dog or their livestock. Yes deer graze fields at night, yes a properly managed property may hold large bucks. WTF are you looking to learn peering into someone's property at night and possibly driving game off their land? Why not read the harvest reports our tax dollars and license fees pay to monitor and report?Save some fuel, time and aggrevation of others: http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/wildlife_pdf/deerplan2012.pdf So please stop spotlighting (and to others, please stop poaching). If the effective home range of a whitetail in NYS is between 2 and 3 square miles, a little simple math dictates spotlighting further than .79-.97 miles away (πr^2) from where you are hunting is meaningless. Is it to drive the deer off that property? It serves no purpose other than a peeping tom. I'm agreed not all peeping toms enter a property to do worse but I have no sympathy for peeping toms. You know ones that "just want to see what kind of girls live in this neighborhood." How about the courtesy of the following two things: Only shine your own land & If unwilling to do that, only shine after season?

He's right the penalty is a small fraction of the taxes. Suspending a hunting license for a few years ought to hurt

Aiming low like that and all that white slime, are you sure you grazed a doe? (Jk)