wink_man

Thats the answer right there, coupled with the fact, as you state he will enjoy, and will practice a lot more. If any CF round couldn't do it with the right bullet in the right place, I doubt DEC would have made it legal. LOTS of people today dropping deer with the .223 all across the country where legal. An old deer poacher I once knew in the Catskills, who went to that happy hunting ground in the sky long ago, delighted in the fact that he could legally hunt squirrels with a 22 WMR and jacketed 40 grain hollow points and drop deer in their tracks with that bullet in the lungs. He was a funny guy, had a stroke and one side of his face hung down a bit from it. One time around 1972 I asked him when deer season was this year, he replied 'Ah haven't ya heard, no closed season, no bag limit'.

I too am a Leupold fan(own several), and also have Denver Redfields, El Paso Weavers, and Bushnell Elite 3200's and Banners, and the more I play with the Burris Fullfields, the more I like them.

Burris right now thru December 31st of this year has a pretty good rebate going on their Fullfiled II scopes, and several others: http://www.burrisoptics.com/promotions.html I bought a Fullfield II 3X9 Ballistic plex scope from this site, Total was $163.56 with shipping & handling: http://www.fedtacticaldirect.com/BUR-3-9X40-FULLFIELD-II-BALLISTIC-PLEX_p_99544.html Then with this rebate form from Burris: http://www.burrisoptics.com/pdf/FullfieldII_rebate.pdf I will get the scope for $113.56 after the rebate. Not a bad deal, and Burris has a 'forever' lifetime warranty. This is my 4th Fullfield II, 3 with the Ballistic Plex recticle, I like the scopes a lot. I would have bought half a dozen of them, but it limits you to 1 rebate per household. Just throwing it out there if anyone is in need of a good scope.

Thanks for the welcome everyone. Been looking through the site, things have changed since I hunted the area desribed above, looks like a 3 pt rule for starters, but I'm not sure of the unit, as I never applied for a doe permit up there. I like the interactive map, but it doesn't show enough on the screen of a particular area, glad I still have my topo maps of the area. Called DEC today trying to get a map of the DMU's. I was transferred 3 times and then told 'I know the person you need, I'll have them call you', so we'll see, LOL. Anyways, I have plenty of homework to do and prescouting, and I think, just need a map describing the DMU's and start making a few scouting trips up there.

I just found this site and thought I would join to see what goes on. I'm from the Socialist Republic of New Jersey, and used to hunt NYS years ago, and thinking about starting again next year. I used to hunt Ulster County, the Balsam Swamp up off Yeagerville Rd. by Roundout Resevoir, and Mombaccus Mountain in Kerhonksen. I plan on taking a ride up there soon to just check things out a little, and see if I can pick up any additional idea/areas by reading here.