eagle rider

What am I missing here? A- propb a lot of us don't have access to livestock. B- I can't follow the sequence what you are saying about the urine. I guess the simplest question is of the store bought scent, who likes what and why?

chiggers are the worst. itch goes on for weeks. Premethrin on your cloths works.

What are your favorites and why? Mine are- 1) Trails End 307- I think it's good for curiosity early on. I rattled in a big buck once using it and another time I grunted in an eight pointer. 2) Scape Mate and Active Scrape - Good during the rut. Got deer to come to the scrapes but it seems to work better when there is a lot of daytime traveling happening. 3) Doe Pee all season (not estrus). Just a natural smell for them to be around. 4) Ever Calm stick definitely. It just smells like deer beds. Like the old Fitzgerald Deer Dander. That stuff worked. 5) Tinks in the Aerosol Can. I've had some success. One rut and one second rut deer using it. But at $5 every time you pop the top on the can,.... it can run into silly money. There's more cost effective ways to get it done. Also used regular Tinks on a drag rag. It seemed to be okay for getting deer to follow me in. Younger deer though. As I'm writing this I think there's not thing that works well on it its own all season. My goals have always been to get the area to smell like ordinary deer activity for that time of the season without over selling it. I think mock scrapes work best in areas wheres there's other fresh scrapes or rub lines nearby. The sex attraction smells seem to work best when the chase is on. I was writing to this guy in Texas where they feed. He said food attractants off travel trails with scents that make deer feel at ease. It got me thinking that maybe the Dominant Buck lures aren't always the best play for deer even during the rut. If you factor out the feed aspect of what the guy from Texas wrote about it makes sense, to keep deer calm and less alert by use of scents is probably a better way to bring them into an area that you're on stand in. The biggest deer I ever saw in the woods during the day light was a 12 that I jumped in a day bed when I didn't expect it. He was in a daytime bed 20 yards off a logging trail that had at least three different ways out for him. So why not set up a mock bedding area and post near it? Ever Calm Sticks on tree trucks using the prevailing wind and regular doe pee. Possibly us the Grave Digger Scrape Mate. Not the Estrus and the Dominant Buck type, the regular Scrape Mate all season. It seems like goo combo, but I don't know if it would work well for older bucks that are rutty.

squirrels on the leaves. Get's your heart pumping for no reason whatsoever. Hate that.

I've shot the bigger stuff forever. I have to tell you guys with over 70 or 80 deer done for.... three things on whiteys that matter the most when it comes to deer rifles: 1- shot placement 2- shot placement 3- shot placement That said in my late middle age years, I'm done with long sessions at the range pounding my shoulder with harder recoil calibers. I'm now a dyed in the wool fan of the 243 Win. I have one in a Savage 14. The gun is a shooter - super acurate, light to carry and really supurbly made. I load it myself with a max charge of Varget and either 100 gr Gamekings or Interlocks. They both print the same for me at 100 yds. If I was shooting commercial (asssuming there was any to be had) I'd probaby try the Hornady American Whitetail (I think that's the name). At least then you're getting a well constructed bullet. I also think for all of its virtues, the 243 does better as a longer distance rifle and I use it when I'm stand hunting mostly. Our ladders do well setting up 80 to 120 yd shots. For drives, I still prefer the 35 Rem in the Marlin 336. Reason being, it's fast handeling, comes up to my shoulder quickly, carrys plenty of mail to get the attention of a big deer on the move. The kind that don't move from cover until you're practically steping over them. It's a small rifle and good in tight cover which is what I like when I jump a deer on a drive. I also use varget in that with a 200 gr Hornady. It give me a 1.5" at 100 yds. The heavy round nose bullet is a pile driver round. Three years ago on a drive a deer winded the post shooter and ran back towards the drivers.. At 35 yds I hit him through the neck headon. I found the bullet completely musroomed under his hide on his hip. The bullet ssmashed things in his chest outside of the wound channel. It took two leaps after I fired and flopped over. The kind of shot where his eyes say TILT. If I was gonna hunt whitetail forever in NY, I'd be fine with just those two rifles (don't tell my wife that). The recoil in both is milder than an 06 or a 270, and way softer than big cousin 300's. Back to shot placement. I've seen disasters happen at 20 yards with 500 S&W's becuase of bad placement. I once saw a deer run past my stand with its guts hanging out from an idiot who missed on the land behind us. He uses a 300 WSM. He aditted he didn't have a shot when he touched off the round. You can't fix stupid I guess. Bottom line get a quality rifle that you can afford, with descent glass and practice shooting it a lot. Be really comfortable with your choice. Only take high percentage shots and you'll put deer on the dirt everytime. Okay, I'm done.

Line of duty injury, so I'm pretty lucky in that regard.

Its fully torn at the shoulder and needs to be operated on.

Thanks,.... What you need to do and what you want to do are sometimes miles apart.

Tore my biceps tendon a week ago in my left arm. A week before bow season opener too,... sucks. Job related injury, too. I need to retire. Looks like I will be handgun hunting only this season. Hopefully my Blackhawks will take care of business this season.

Congrats on the new voodoo stick. Use it well.

two guys in our deer camp use them. One 308 the other is 243. They love love.

nice! How old is that deer?

great trigger design on the moel 10. The acutrigger is very nicely designed.

ye Ole Swamp Donkey! We have a huge swamp on our property. I am the only one fool enough to hunt it. I have a stand on either side (its long and relatively narrow At its deepest its about 700 sq yds). Morning time does' move around it and afternoon there are some big deer in the boggy banks of it that at least one bruser of a buck hangs out it in. Its a definate all day sit, because he will will cruise in an out of it from time to time depending on weather and doe activity. I took his father from one of those stands a four years ago. Without a doubt, one of the biggest deers I have shot in NY. IMO, doe smell type lures cannot hurt you around a swamp. That said, I'm leary of blended estrus products, I think if you're gonna go doe-in-heat buy estrus that it from one doe (Code Blue). Reguar doe urine can't hurt, the banks of it reak from doe pee naturally. We got his father out with a tarsel gland off another buck shot the day before. It hung all day long and he came out at last light to finally check it out. There was a little contact grunting throughout that day with him. In the end it was all about 75 yards and a 35 Rem rouund into his vitals. He still got one good leap back into the muck. Anyway good luck and great hunting! PS- think about his travel routes in and out, and the wind for stand placement. Kind of a given but I feel better saying it.

I watched video, sharpening looks like it will be pretty easy. They fly well for you too?

best $75 I ever spent for hunting!

I gave up on TC, accuracy with the Encore was disappointing. Sold it to a guy at my job with the 243 barrel, 30-06 barrel and the 50 cal barrel. I did get a Savage 10 American Classic in 243. Its relly nice. Very acuate. I really don't want to take it in the woods and ding up the walnut. Someone talk me into it, lol

nice, how's the blood trails?

Anyone have experience with these? Looking at the 100 grain. They look tough as nails.

Face mask.

Old school, which hazel helps a little but see a doc.

Looks like your forend is on permanent vacation.

Or the fact that they just don't get longer shots too often. I'd take a crank fire lever gun over a semi deer rifle all day long.

They're not coming to the base of the tree, but you wind up with plenty of 15 yard opportunities as compared to 25 or 30 brought the understory. 30' up and 45' out. That's what a 45 degree angle. Two lungs is entirely possible.

LOL. but considering the accuracy is for crap after the third round you might miss the 2700 FPS gutting opportunity altogether. I love my old 7400, it was my Dad's. Just too much metal on metal bearing surface in that design. Accuracy is lost really quickly. Goes from a 2" gun to a 4" gun very quickly. The BAR system Browning uses is much better and accuracy is maintained. I guess that's why one is $600 and the other is $1000.