mike rossi

We did. A bachelor flock of 5 with one bearded hen hung up at 70 yards, what else is new... Lots of other birds gobbling in all directions. All kinds of birds looking for hens - we also heard one snipe, two woodcock, and a bunch of grouse all around us.

Every thing alive including plants and people have heavy metals and pcbs stored in their tissues. The higher up on the food chain, the more stored. Geese are pretty low on the food chain, because they only eat invertebrates for a short time when they are very young goslings, afterward they are strictly plant eaters. The test results on the geese would probably be lower than the results of grocery bought chicken which eat insects and are sometimes fed feed containing animal protein (fed so they grow bigger faster). Even "free-range organic" chickens are pecking up ants, spiders, small snakes, etc... LOL, I guess the board of health just don't test grocery bought meat, at least for those substances... Even if you only eat brussel sprouts you are harboring metals & pcbs, With meats it helps to trim fat, skin, the dark lateral line meat in fish. Some venison donation programs have been discontinued because of studies showing that lead shrapnel from bullets shows up some distance from the bullet wound. The smaller the shrapnel, the worse it is for you, because it is absorbed into the bloodstream more readily. The solution is easy, switch to green ammo... Ballistic testing has shown that it actually shoots better; and it is priced about the same, or slightly more than lead ammo. This isn't an anti hunting thing or something that will make ammo to expensive and all that bull, although that's what you will hear...

The education system believes by obscuring legitimate gun use & ownership that gun crime will be reduced. What are they doing to obscure student's exposure to illegitimate gun use through video games, television, and movies? What benefit is pretending legitimate gun use / ownership does not exist while countless other sources are glorifying gun violence?

The pellet fuel industry would have to operate in a way that eliminates the pine, not sustains it for sustained profits. However, after the pine is removed and habitat is restored, logging is still beneficial. Not sure that the later logging would work for the pellet industry though... I guess that would allow the lumber industry a chance... A possible issue would enter if a rare native species had actually adapted to these plantations. Then starts all the job and economic arguments from the logging industry....

We are talking about the same thing, the CCC. Anyway, pellet stoves are popular for heating, what are wood pellets made of? Burning wood doesn't do much for the carbon problem, but the USA has a lot of renewable forest. Wonder if this foreign pine will burn or is it just good for pulp? This is the electronic & paperless age, I believe pulp is used for paper?

It would be interesting to know who's bright idea it was ... Do you happen to know?

Doc you are being very generous with the assumption this will lower gas prices. Where is the proof? A lot of pro-fracking economic arguments, but no numbers or indices. Qualify gas, are you talking methane natural gas or gasoline/diesel? There is no movement to convert vehicles to methane, so why are gasoline/diesel prices relevant? Does the USA even buy methane from the middle east? The Chinese have already bought into large energy companies, like Chesapeake Energy. Does this matter? I don't know how true it is, but one source claims that Canadian Natural Gas produced by fracking is being exported to China & India and has not benefited the average Canadian citizen. If the USA exports surplus methane, is the suggested benefit to US citizens diminished?

Logging is allowed on many public lands. So is grazing and sharecropping. It is done with sealed bids. Problem is not with the lands with marketable timber or good soil... It is the majority of the other public lands that need to be managed with the conservation fund and associated matching federal funds - that's what those funds are for... However somebody decided the CF should be invested in the STIP and the matching federal grants are not wanted... I don't know if the pine monocultures you are talking about are a question of what came first, the chicken or the egg? Is it a case of low value timber resulting from it maturing into a climax stage (pine?) that nobody will bid on? Or is it the product of the mistake made decades ago where the government planted non native (norwiegen pine?) monocultures after logging native trees on state forests? I guess they thought the open, park-like atmosphere of norwiegen pine plantations would attract people ???? Or was it, trees are trees, animals don't know the difference.... If they let it regenerate naturally, it would sustain harvest indefinetly, yet they introduced the pine, in a monoculture no less, - which is not only poor habitat but apparently not marketable for lumber??? Plenty of money in the CF to mitigate those pine plantations...

I am not sure I agree with that. I think they are more powerful than ever. The biggest reason is the mistake made by leaders of the sporting community in making hunting a partisan issue. To understand this, you need to separate hunting from the second amendment. The entire democratic party is a large machine to fight. Anti-hunters have realized that and they are playing that card - proof watch these videos:

Winning a battle doesn't win a war. This country has subjected several generations to anti-hunting propaganda through cartoons and other means. Now, future generations are learning through the education system that guns are undesirable and illegitimate... This is how social change occurs, not overnight, but over generations....

I guess that is old news, here is more about it and other accounts of kids getting in trouble in schools for gun symbols: The West Virginia eighth-grader who was suspended and, astonishingly, arrested last week after he refused to remove a t-shirt supporting the National Rifle Association returned to school on Monday. In a move The Daily Caller can only characterize as courageous, 14-year-old Jared Marcum returned to Logan Middle School in Logan County, West Va., wearing exactly the same shirt, which depicts a hunting rifle with the statement “protect your right.” According to Fox News, other students across the rural county showed their support for Marcum by wearing similar shirts to school. “There’s a lot of people wearing this same exact shirt, showing great, great support and I really appreciate it,” Marcum said in the morning outside the schoolhouse door, according to local NCB affiliate WBOY-TV. Marcum’s attorney, Ben White, said that school officials are sticking by the eighth-grader’s one-day suspension because, they say, he caused a disruption. “Their version is that the suspension was for disrupting the educational process, not the shirt,” White told Fox News. White has called the school’s position into question. He asserts that his client was exercising his free speech rights. As ABC News reports, Marcum’s version of events is that he had worn the shirt for several hours without incident. At lunchtime, Marcum maintains, a teacher confronted him about the shirt. When Marcum said he would not take off the shirt or turn it inside out, the teacher began yelling, which caused a cafeteria scene. “I believe the teacher was acting beyond the scope of his employment,” White told ABC. “What the video shows is that students did step up on the benches to the tables in the lunchroom when they were escorting Jared out of building. Kids jumped up, clapping.” The police chief in Logan City (pop. 1,779) said that Marcum was arrested for the disruption he caused at school. “His conduct in school almost incited a riot,” Chief E.K. Harper told ABC. White added that Marcum wore the shirt to express his support for the Second Amendment. He said the school’s dress code does not forbid such shirts. A straightforward reading of the dress code would seem to bear that interpretation out. The dress code, which is posted online, forbids certain kinds of clothing — for example, messages that support violence, discrimination and alcohol use — but nowhere are constitutional rights mentioned. Presumably, Marcum and his student supporters were not arrested or suspended for wearing the pro-gun shirts on Monday. However, it’s not entirely clear. White still expects the charges to be dropped, and he says a civil lawsuit is forthcoming. Marcum’s arrest and suspension is the latest incident of anti-gun hysteria to erupt in a school setting. There have been many others in the last few months. Officials at an elementary school in small-town Michigan impounded a third-grader boy’s batch of 30 homemade birthday cupcakes because they were adorned with green plastic figurines representing World War Two soldiers. The school principal branded the military-themed cupcakes “insensitive” in light of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting. (RELATED: School confiscates third-grader’s cupcakes topped with toy soldiers) At Genoa-Kingston Middle School in northeast Illinois, a teacher threatened an eighth-grader with suspension if he did not remove his t-shirt emblazoned with the interlocking rifles, a symbol of the United States Marines. (RELATED: Junior high teacher tells kid to remove Marines t-shirt or get suspended) At Park Elementary School in Baltimore, Maryland, a student was suspended for two days because his teacher thought he shaped a strawberry, pre-baked toaster pastry into something resembling a gun. (RELATED: Second-grader suspended for having breakfast pastry shaped like a gun) At Poston Butte High School in Arizona, a high school freshman was suspended for setting a picture of a gun as the desktop background on his school-issued computer. (RELATED: Freshman suspended for picture of gun) At D. Newlin Fell School in Philadelphia, school officials reportedly yelled at a student and then searched her in front of her class after she was found with a paper gun her grandfather had made for her. (RELATED: Paper gun causes panic) In rural Pennsylvania, a kindergarten girl was suspended for making a “terroristic threat” after she told another girl that she planned to shoot her with a pink Hello Kitty toy gun that bombards targets with soapy bubbles. At Roscoe R. Nix Elementary School in Maryland, a six-year-old boy was suspended for making the universal kid sign for a gun, pointing at another student and saying “pow.” That boy’s suspension was later lifted and his name cleared.

A West Virginia teen arrested and accused of nearly inciting a riot after a confrontation with a teacher over his National Rifle Association t-shirt has inspired dozens of students across his county to wear similar apparel in solidarity. Jared Marcum, 14, had a confrontation Thursday with a Logan Middle School teacher over his NRA t-shirt, which bears the organization's logo, along with an image of a hunting rifle and the phrase, "Protect your right." Marcum's lawyer, Ben White, said that when the teen was told to remove the shirt or turn it inside out, he attempted to engage the teacher in a debate. "Jared respects firearms and has training to use them, and believes in the Second Amendment," White told ABCNews.com. "He believes it's being threatened by current legislation. He wore [the shirt] as an expression of political speech and the need to protect the Second Amendment." White said that Marcum had been wearing the shirt without causing any problems from homeroom at the beginning of the school day through fifth period, and was confronted by one of the school's teachers while getting his lunch. When Jared refused to remove or reverse the shirt, the teacher began to raise his voice, and it caught the attention of students eating their lunch, White said. Marcum was eventually arrested and taken away by police after refusing to remove the shirt. White said that when police told the teen they were going to arrest him, he stuck his hands out and said, "Fine." Logan City Police Chief E.K. Harper told ABCNews.com that Marcum was not arrested for wearing a t-shirt, but for "disrupting the school process." "His conduct in school almost incited a riot," Harper said. Marcum was not put in jail, Harper said, and was released to his mother after less than 30 minutes at the police station -- normal procedure for a juvenile arrest. White said that charges being filed against Marcum are pending the prosecutor's office's review of the evidence. But he insisted that it was the teacher who caused the issue by confronting the teen, and that video gathered from the school will prove it. "I believe the teacher was acting beyond the scope of his employment," he said. "What the video shows is that students did step up on the benches to the tables in the lunchroom when they were escorting Jared out of building. Kids jumped up, clapping. Teachers said to get off and be quiet, and they did." Logan county schools' dress code, which is posted online, prohibits clothing and accessories that display profanity, violence, discriminatory messages or sexual language, along with ads for alcohol, tobacco or drugs. There is no mention of the NRA or guns. "My belief is that if the teacher could have applied some common sense and say, 'I think that violates the dress code. Let me check with the dress code,'" White said. When contacted by ABCNews.com about the incident, Logan County Schools Superintendent Wilma Zigmond said that she was not at liberty to discuss students with the media, but indicated that more than the shirt led to the arrest. "I don't think I've ever known of a student being suspended for a shirt," Zigmond said. On top of his arrest and trip to the police station, Marcum was suspended from school for one day. This morning, he returned to school wearing the same t-shirt, White said. White accompanied Marcum and his stepfather to a meeting at the school, where the principal, according to White, said that she "hates that it happened" to Marcum. Logan County students wore NRA t-shirts today in solidarity with Marcum, White said, adding that Marcum is an honor roll student eyeing a career in the military. Zigmond did not mention any disciplinary action during school today. White is confident that all of the evidence will work in the teenager's favor. "There's no evidence that Jared almost caused a riot," he said. "They won't be able to produce any evidence to that fact. ... The teacher should have the ability to debate things with students. I don't care how you slice it. ... It was the teacher not acting like an adult. He created the issue."

Public ignorance benefits industry, not science, every time, . If that statement is false, give me just one example otherwise...

The legislature breaks on June 20. Whether it is the SAFE Act or something else, it is the last call for your letters, phone calls and e-mails, so please get them in! For those interested in hunting doves in NY, here is our latest form letter. Please send this or better yet, use parts of it as talking points put into your own words. If anyone gets any replies please let us know on face book or PM here,. Thanks! Dear Senator or Assembly Member; Please sponsor or otherwise support the passage of legislation to classify the mourning dove as a migratory game bird. WHEREAS... Such status would have ecological, economic, and recreational benefits. Proper species classification would allow the DEC to manage this migratory, continental population in concert with other states in the Fish and Wildlife Services' designated eastern fly-way. The DEC has already been required to band doves for the FWS since 2009, however receives no revenue from dove hunting, thus in terms familiar to the legislature, it is an “unfunded mandate”.

One of the other moderators on here suggested it to me, as did a few other people. At first I didn't understand face book, but I eventually found it useful. Other than boycotting them for this move, you might want to try it out.

About the Iraq oil field contracts, despite them the price of oil barrels didn't go down they instead hit record high prices. Is there something I am missing?

Did you ever ask yourself why wasn't that "mother load" enough? The operant is GREED. This industry has no moral boundaries. That is why laws , exist in the first place.

Doesn't that work both ways though? The impact of coyotes on ranchers has been documented many times, its real. But there is also a cultural superstition about coyotes. Its still emotion, just a different kind. For example, some may argue the PA's unrestricted coyote hunting is based on emotion. If the charismatic species syndrome is emotional, why isn't the predator phobia syndrome emotional?

Even if he resigned, does anyone believe he dumped his stock? When Cheney's "Haliburton Loophole" was signed into law, I am sure investors, including good old Dick, played the market accordingly.

What constitutes a nuisance is vague, it seems the law allows you to use your own discretion. More discretion under 11-0523 then the other nuisance regulation which requires a permit. The regulations are clear though. You can take them outside of the season if they are a nuisance and you live on or cultivate the land where they are being a nuisance. If you do not live on or cultivate the land, the other nuisance regulation applies, and you need to get a nuisance permit or hire a licensed wildlife control operator. There seems to be an exception for skunks, but don't bank on it without speaking to an ECO, preferably a luitenant. I posted about this before, but the permit is easy to get and free. The person who issues it to you wants to know what the problem is and may or may not put stipulations or conditions on the permit, for example that you bury the carcass. Me and others do get a sense for your frustration with the attitude many people have about coyotes and some of us agree with you. The more you interface with sportsmen or any secular conservative you will learn that anytime you disagree with them "Liberal" or" Anti" flashes through their head and they will not listen any further. Its useless to argue with them and besides they are entitled to their opinions. Even if you teach hunter education anything you say will be trumped by what they hear from dad, uncle, or older brother. Almost all youths in hunter ed are from hunting families. The best prospects to teach are new hunters which are adults. Most of the new blood recruited into our sport isn't youth anyway, its women and foodies. City people can be quite arrogant and ignorant, but the ones who become interested in hunting without peer influence tend to be smart, independent thinkers. These adults are good candidates to teach.

I don't know were you the notion that ranchers always live on site. As a matter of fact you can lease grazing rights on some public lands. Private landowners lease grazing rights all the time. People buy their own pastures a way from home. When a rancher expands his business (increases his herd) he may buy or lease a way from home. If rangeland becomes degraded or simply needs to be rotated, a rancher moves his herd. Don't turn this into a discussion about range ecology, livestock management, or the business of ranching...

Doc, I thought I decided to stay out of this one, but in post 33 you say: " We are going to use it on properties all around yours, and maybe even yours if we can bribe you with enough money" But it doesn't work quite that way... If a landowner refuses the bribe he doesn't retain his property rights, all he does is allow them to go ahead and not pay him a dime. This is allowed under Compulsitory Integration and Eminent Domain. If a majority of your neigbors give the industry a green light, your screwed... I heard of at least one section were a company told a group of landowners that one of them will be like a "lottery winner", that is the person who gets the actual well pad and the most money. Other landowners would have roads and pipelines and will be paid, but much less. The lease salesman achieved majority consensus and when the well pad was put in, it was 500 feet from one of the landowners home. However, the resident of that home was not the "lottery winner". It was right in their backyard, but not on their property. The adjoining landowner, who lived far a way, won the lottery and got paid the big bucks while the people who got a backyard gas well got paid crumbs and their house became unsellable and miserable to live in. Another thing I did not see mentioned here is the structural damage of houses from the vibration, another complaint of people who live near well pads. It is something else that may be worth looking up.

Here is his website: http://www.tresmondlaw.com Personally, I don't really care if they make money on this. But they will have some expenses out of their own pocket or their clients pocket. I don't see anything about a donation campiagn on his facebook page or website yet though, but Im watching. Could always give a phone call or stop by his office though...

You opened up another one WNY Buck Hunter... The law for taking without a permit stipulates occupant and cultivated land. Cultivation is, of course, related to crop farming but not to ranching, unless this includes timothy or alfalfa hay. If they don't consider hay cultivation or the pastures are uncultivated native grass, - it seems that ranchers of sheep, cattle, poultry ect. are not really covered under this law unless they live on site.... Hmmm... So can a rancher who does not occupy the land kill a nuisance coyote without a permit? I am afraid I do not see it stipulated that they legally can...

Here is a link and a good look up engine: http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/nycode/ENV/11/5/11-0523