Pygmy

I've had a couple of 28 gauge guns, and although I never used them on turkey, they seemed to kill birds up to the size of pheasants as well as a 20 gauge, ithin reasonable ranges, say 30-35 yards.. The standard shot charge for the 28 is 3/4 oz. of shot, although at one time Federal loaded a 7/8 oz. load and Winchester loaded a "magnum" with a full 1 oz. of shot...Of course, handloading increases your options, as Dinsdale has discovered.. I think if I were to hunt gobblers with the 28, I'd try # 6 or, even better, # 7 1/2 shot to increase pattern densities and limit my shots to 25 yards or so.. At such short ranges, the small shot has suffcient penertration to do the job... For a period of time I used a Browning Citori for turkeys, and in the under barrel I used a handload of 1 7/8 oz. of 7 1/2 shot with an IC choke tube....At ranges of under 25 yards, a big gobbler will literally WILT from a dense load of 7 1/2 shot, and the bigger pattern made it easier to hit the close in target...I used a full choke with 2 oz. of #6 shot in the over barrel for longer shots...

Good luck, Noodle... ....

Nothing wrong with sarcastic humor, Doc... Been known to use it myself sometimes... ;D ... As I have said before, I'm relatively new here and I'm still trying to figure out some of the players.... : ... I'll also reserve the right to call BS when I see it... ...

Hehehehehe... Yeah, basically they are just " bumpin' bungholes".... The gobblers seem to think that it's pretty SPECIAL, tho.... ..... If you think about it, there ARE someadvantages to having all thier genitals inside thier body cavity... They don't have to worry about getting kicked in the NADS in a gobbler fight... The hens can't bug them for leaving the TOILET SEAT up... Kind of a bummer, though.. They don't have anything to SCRATCH when they get up in the morning..

I'm sure the bulleye isn't authentic, but I doubt anyone pretended it was..I'm sure Eddie didn't.. I don't see anything odd about the rest of the picture...The deer are mulies, and the vegtation looks authentic to me..The trees in the background are out of focus enough that it's hard to tell, but they would appear to be typical pine timber like you see in much the the west... Looks like typical western deer habitat and in many of the semi-arid areas out there you'll see a lot more BROWN grass than green grass.. Non symmetrical antlers..??.. Hard to tell from that angle, but assymetry isn't rare in lttle buck deer like that one, or even BIG ones for that matter.. As for the tarsals, you can't even SEE the tarsals on the buck, and the other one appears to be a doe.. I don't think does pee on thier tarsals on a regular basis...The ones I have watched just spread thier legs a little and kind of squat...

Pygmy am I using the correct shot or should I be shooing something different? Is there a better shot to use on turkey than #4? Thanks for the info.Dave It depends on how well your guns patterns #4 shot...IF you have sufficient coverage for consistent head/neck shots at a given range, # 4 shot works great.. I've probably killed more birds with # 4 shot than any other size..However, if your pattern has a lot of holes in it at a reasonable maximum range, say 40 yards, you may be better off with smaller shot such as #5 or # 6 to get more pellets on target... The only way you will know for sure is to pattern your gun...

Dave.... That combo SHOULD give a sure kill pattern out to 40-45 yards, or perhaps a tad farther.. However every gun and load is different.. The only way to be sure is to pattern your gun...You should get a turkey head target ( you should be able to print one online) and shoot your gun from a steady rest at different ranges...The longest range at which you can consistently put 6 to 8 # 4 shot in the head and neck would be the maximum effective range of your gun.. It will also tell you if your gun is shooting to point of aim..Many guns pattern high, low, right or left....

All birds do it basically the same way... At the proper moment, the hen will lift her tail... Birds don't have external genitals, everything is inside the body cavity... They have a cloaca, which is a common orifice .. "only hole they got"... ... Everything comes out of, including solid waste, urine and sperm... The male simply presses his cloaca on the hen's cloaca and sprays the sperm.. It's really quite a hapahazard procedure.. That's why they do it so much...

Remington 1187 SP...21" bbl...Kick's .665 Gobblin' Thunder tube... Works well with 3" Win XX Turkey Loads or Federal Premium and 2 oz. #6 shot... This combo has also worked well for me with 2 oz. of buffered #4 shot, but a few years ago I switched to sixes for the extra pattern density..

TURKEY PORN...!!!... Cool..Especially if you're a turkey...

Most of the low lifes that would do such a thing would be out shooting birds prior to season on thier own if the youth hunt was not in effect... I think that the youth hunt is a great thing and helps encourage young hunters to continue our hunting tradition.. I don't have a kid to take out ( my daughter has been a little SLOW in providing me with a grandkid) but I would certainly BORROW a youth to take hunting, except for the fact that youth weekend conflicts with the Ontario opener, which I would not want to miss..

AZZHOLES....!!... > .... Good for you, Stretch... By the way, how were the bullheads biting..??.. Many of the small lakes and ponds that I fish still have some ice..

Is that why your girlfriends used to call you "Helmet Head"..??..

And when you have an erotic dream you fall on your head, right..!!.. That answers a lot of questions... ....

No Steve, you've got it all wrong... What I meant was that my LEGS are too short.. I keep STEPPING on it... ??? ....

Yeah, story of my life...Too short... : .....

I am wearing the loin cloth that I made from the Leopard hide right now! Its a bit snug but still works. I think the guy that sent them was named Eddie but can't be certain? A leopard skin loincloth AND your mink lined thong..??.. That is the HEIGHT of pygmy fashion, Whacker... I'm so envious that I just drooled all over the bone in my nose..

Never tried the lemon, but it is an interesting option.. I HATE bug repellents, but sometimes they are necessary, especially when you are moving some... I no longer use them turkey hunting, since I bought a Thermacell...Those things flat out WORK if you are sitting in one place, such as turkey hunting.. I've hunted gobblers in Maine in early June when the skeeters would literally carry you away, and when I light my thermacell, they are gone within 5 minutes..Great product...

I took my boat out on Keuka Lake this morning for it's spring shakedown cruise... Launched at Hammondsport and fished about 2 miles north.. Between 9:00AM and 1:00 PM two of us boated 20 lakers vertical jigging...We were using light spinning gear and 3/4 oz. brass castmaster spoons tipped with a small white twister tail.. Most fish were in the 17-19 inch range, but we landed several that went 4 to 6 pounds... We missed as many as we hooked..Busy morning....

My opinion is that a JHP would work fine at that velocity at ranges of 25 yards or less, assuming a good broadside shot at the ribcage... I would certainly prefer it to a FMJ..

Doewhacker...If you compete, remember to wear your mink -lined thong... It gets kinda chilly out there , and you wouldn't want Big Bob and the BOYS to get a chill... HEY...I have an idea... Why don't we start an OLD FAT Hunter competion...??... That way Bubba, Doc, Fasteddie, Sweet Old Bill and I would have a chance to strut our stuff...

That's part of the fun of handloading....Checking out different combos to see what works well for you... There is nothing wrong with loading 180 or 200 grain bullets in the Whelen and they'll kill game just fine.....However with such light bullets there is little, if any advantage over the 30-06...Not that there is anything WRONG with the 30-06... The advantage of a Whelen over it's parent case, the 30-06, is its ability to handle heavier bullets.. Paper ballistics aside, 50 or 60 grains bullet weight IS significant and a 250 grain bullet at 2500FPS REALLY thumps game animals... More impressive, in my opinion, than a 180 grain bullet at 2700-2800.... The bullet manufacturers have been making good cup and core bullets in .35 cal. for years from 225 to 250 grains and they WILL expand and perfom well on deer sized game, as well as heavier game.. Have fun and good luck... ;D ....

I agree, Bubba... 1.5 year old 8 points are very common in my area...

Not at all, jusputten... I certainly agree with you and suspect most hunters would.. There must be some loads for the .40 featuring a standard jacketed soft point or even a jacketed hollow point... Something BETWEEN a FMJ and a super rapid expansion type like the Hydra -shock....

I haven't been on the forum long enough to know all the key players... Am I to assume that Burmjohn is the Head Honcho here..??.. Just asking.. I have expressed an opinion a couple of times but prefer not to get involved in political/ethical pissing contests or the personal attacks...