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But as we all know if you take a friend you only need to be faster than him. Now the most worrying of all the incidents you had is that you were still hunting when it was 30 below. I bet that stand was nice to be in with the wolves around, though.

Thinking of leasing a piece of land. It's terribly close to my home, price is fair. One of my worries is it's near a property that has a bunch of dogs. They are all caged and don't run around, but the property sounds like a breeding kennels to be honest. It's loud as heck, dogs going absolutely ballistic at seemingly all hours. My hope is that deer have grown used to the fact these dogs are caged and not roaming around, rather like how deer get used to a lot of things. Is that fair? The obvious question now is: have I scouted it. I have a bit, but not a ton and this is the absolute worst time of year to do it as much of the area is heavily overgrown.

If 4 year old threads weren't meant to be bumped the system would auto lock after a time...

Damn it!

True, it is right on there. I suspect it's also reflected somewhere in NY's penal code, but can can anybody cite the section? What I'm getting at is, I wonder if DEC just made this up (almost certainly not but wouldn't be entirely surprising given that the official .gov site for new york still gives advice in direct and clear contradiction to NY penal law about the NY SAFE act). Here is NY's complete penal code (I think) as it pertains to firearms. I see nothing about the illegality of carrying while hunting. Does DEC have additional laws (not passages on their website) that superceded or compliment the penal code? http://ypdcrime.com/penal.law/article265.htm

Hmm, my vote goes for another stupid NY law and I'd be surprised if even one person in the thread posits a counter argument, though I'm sure some legislator at some point was worried that somebody bow hunting would use the bow as a facade and actually the guy meant to hunt deer with his .380 micro.

As mentioned it is for some reason illegal to carry while bowhunting, even though another person in the same woods on the same day could carry if he were not bowhunting. I never see anything and never hear coyotes where I am. I have seen several mountain lions in person while hunting in NY but they never come close enough to worry about

I bought two nikons last year. I don't want to spend lots of money on a scope, but cheap scopes are not any good except as a paper weight. Frustrating, waste of money on ammo, likely to lose zero, fog up, etc. it's just not worth it. Walmart is full of sub $100 scopes and I think they are a waste of time. Sometimes you can see deals on the nikon scopes on amazon for as little as $99. They have a lifetime warranty I think, too.

Nice. It really goes to show how much bang for the buck this thing is. Other manufacturers need to catch up. Trigger is rated as terrible but I could get over that.

Can pay $1,000 for a modest size lease for me and buddy. We're likely going to sign on another piece otherwise, but if somebody has some nice land in western walworth I'm more than happy to review another option for 2017 deer season. Thought I'd post an actual number to indicate legitimate interest; not looking for low ball access for $100-200 month or anything like that.

Most of it was junk as usual. I bought a $30 kindle fire. I keep microsd cards in my cams with converters to full size and this way I can check the cameras in the field easily. With my phone as a hot spot I can even connect to wifi and upload everything to my amazon cloud account direct from the kindle.

So hard to tell without something to scale to. Nice pics, though. I got awesome vid a few years back of a bear going into the back of my van (we were packing up to leave a camping area), grabbed marshmallow bag, walked off 30 yards and went to town on an entire bag of marshmallows.

That is really awful I also hate people who litter the road, even cigarette butts.

Did it a bit on and off as a kid, was never that great at it. Have brought the kids a few times but they are cool to it and have the same fishing incompetence I do. There was only one time I really did well. My dad took me and the brothers deep sea fishing and that one day--actually it was on a charter boat--we pulled in an entire garbage bag of fish. Jigging, no less--not even bait. Just a flashy lure and they swim by it and you yank up and nail them in the body. That day was fun

Currently 8C allows ONLY bow hunting for deer; no firearms and no crossbows. I'm considering buying a property in 8C (I wish I wasn't, but that's a thread for another day). As long as the DEC rules of 250 feet are followed, does anybody know of a reason I couldn't at least target shoot a crossbow? The town is Penfield, and I don't see any specific regulation in Penfield against crossbow target shooting, even though they do have some specific rules against firearms above and beyond DEC guidelines. Oh, and does anybody know if the DEC plans any change to crossbow to allow crossbow inclusion into 8C and the other WMU that is bow-only? I know people are more focused on full inclusion, but still I thought I'd ask!

Still looking

Someone on ebay is selling this $248 shipped, new. Walmart has a similar price. If not for me harping constantly with my wife in the past few months about our spending I would buy one of these right now. That is a darn good price. I will try and ease her into it over the next little while. Or the old faithful: "I'll buy this and you can buy that thing instead", but then the thing will end up costing me $500!

12. guess maybe need to wait another 1-2 years. This is pretty silly because realistically a 12 year old kid (particularly female) could far more ethically hunt deer with a crossbow than a bow.

I only learned of overseeding embarrassingly recently, and I know that's how people get truly badass yards. I want to do it only on my front yard. I know the normal time is spring and fall, but if I am willing to water religiously for the next two weeks (who are we kidding--it rains constantly anyway...), will the overseeding work okay? I was just going to grab a bag of seed, my lawn is freshly cut, then I'd rake it in and water. Will that even work?

Congratulations!

Is this thing still THE crossbow to get in this price range as it was last fall? I am seriously thinking about it for this fall. I do like bowhunting a lot, but a crossbow seems fun, too. Also, one of my daughters will be of age in the next year or so and there's no way she can possibly ramp up to legit bowhunting by then, but she wants to hunt deer.

This nails it. It's the same reason why people just assume that something like the holocaust could never happen again. it was soooooooooo long ago and we're just so much better now. But it was only like 2-3 generations ago. As for people who are ignorant of NK and don't believe it's as bad as it really is: I read a couple days ago about a woman who went on a tour to NK, I think with the company that now says it won't let Americans no its tours. She said a couple of people in her party from the west thought all the anti-nk stuff was western propaganda, and another who thought the same and hated the US. This is why kids need to hear stories about monsters from time to time. Because sometimes they're real. NK is an evil in a modern age on par with some of the very best from history. And as for enslaving or killing innocents, who cares? It's even helpful. If people feel that from time to time innocents are killed, well imagine how much the true criminals will get for punishment? That's why the only just, reasonable thing to happen to kim jong un is to be the recipient of a lot of ordnance. Not because NK is a threat to the US (it's not), but because the country is evil. It's too bad so many people who are helped can't help themselves (case in point most of the middle east). I like to think NK could be an exception, since it is flanked by three nations all of which have functioning societies and hopefully could show it a better route if its regime was exploded.

Then there's Seppuku. The West sees it as nuts, but some in asia just have a more developed sense of honor than we do. Nothing says I own this mistake more than that action. I also agree with the above that NK didn't intend for this to happen to the guy and have probably spent the last year+ hoping he'd recover. They gave him two MRIs shortly after his coma, and when things either went south or they realized it was a lost cause, they sent him home. We shouldn't reengage in a war over one guy making a dumb mistake, but it does tell a bit more about the regime. I personally believe the NK regime to be at the top of the pile of evil in our world right now. No other country so systematically and to such a degree tortures and kills and enslaves its people. I would still like to see multiple cruise missiles dropped on their equivalent of congress next time all of them are in session praising dear leader.

Killing is deceptively easy, deceptive because many think themselves unable to do it. History teaches otherwise. It's not very difficult to rile people up such that they do not even see their adversaries as legitimate human beings. We've a long and voluminous history of genocide, torture, murder for all kinds of reasons, so we have to conclude that large percentages of any population are quite easily brought to do what they may have previously considered unthinkable. Our morality hangs by a shoestring for most of us, and it is cut with little effort when our comfortable worlds are replaced by fear and stress. We wrap ourselves in modern conveniences, clothes, technology, buildings, but in our hearts we are the same savages who sat around a campfire as part of a small tribe plotting the ways in which the tribe over the hill has wronged us and fantasizing about how we will seek our rightful justice.

I feel bad for him but my sympathy must necessarily be limited for the same reason I have limited sympathy for people who rock climb without safety gear or ride motorcycles without helmets. Any reasonable person knows NK kidnaps people. It has a long history of doing so, over trivial and often non-existent acts. In his case he went to an unpredictable country and committed a crime. Of course his crime was trivial, and even stealing a painting off the wall of the oval office wouldn't result in a punishment anywhere close to execution, which is what he got. NK murdered him over a poster. That is on them. But, people, stop @*#&ing visiting NK.