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The usual frustrated hunters that are not seeing the deer they think they should be seeing. Blame the DEC, coyotes, insurance companies, not enough logging, doe permits, hippies, bigfoot ...
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It's a natural resource and does not belong in a landfill. Hang it in a tree. Birds will feed on it all winter. Put up a trail cam and you will get all kinds of interesting photos - fisher, hawks etc.
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How are they biased? Like I said earlier I sleep at a camp "for now" and travel to where the best conditions and sign are. 95% of my hunting is done by parking at a trailhead usually of a main road.
My half of my camp is on the market. For 33K$ it can be yours?
I want to sell it so I can buy a truck camper to be more mobile to save on my driving around before daylight.
I am packing my truck as I type so I can leave at 2am for a 3hr drive to head up to around cranberry lake for the last day because I heard there might still be some tracking snow. I have never hunted this area in my life but I looked at a map and I found where a couple trailheads are that I'm going to check out before daylight. If there is tracking snow I will put a 20$ bill on the fact that I will see a buck tomorrow. Now most likely it won't be a shooter but that's what makes it fun. Having hunted the ADKS for as long as I have I can say that I average more bucks sightings in a day when conditions are right than I do on my family's 300 acre farm.
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For a big woods buck killer you waste alot of time blogging with the newbies.
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Before Firearms hunting basically ..
I know at one time all or most the animals you find now only in the West lived throughout North America browm bear montain lion elk wolf .xct
Theodore Roosevelt has written at length on the subject.
Modern firearms deer season in NY is relatively new (1940ish), as the forest was mostly cleared and wildlife wiped out in the 1800s. The Great Depression after WWI took the pressure off the land and resulted in most of the state land we have today.
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Yes. That is the essence of deer camp. The norm these days is guys get a deer and go home. Or complain about the “lack of deer” at the old family camp in the mountains or southern tier and leave early to go sit over a food plot on the land they lease with work buddies in the flat lands.
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I Just wonder what the wildlife density was like there before human hunting or before firearms .
1000 10,000 years ago .
10,000 yrs ago was a short time after the last glacial event so wildlife density was very low as plants were just getting re-established. By human hunting I assume you mean white people hunting as humans have inhabited this region, and hunted wildlife, for thousands of years.
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Maybe I'm not understanding your point here, but sitting still is the only way to kill just about anything up in the ADK's. Short of tracking an animal in the snow, which is heavily dependent on the weather conditions, moving around in the woods usually yields poor results as the animals can hear, smell and sometimes see you well before you're in a position to get a shot.
I agree there is a lot of footwork in the preparation for a hunt (scouting, setting up cameras, moving gear in and out). But once the season starts, it's been my experience that moving around looking for an animal is a futile exercise in the big woods of the northeast (again excluding the snow tracking scenario).
No offense but it sounds like you have never hunted north of Syracuse.
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If you are interested in forest management and improving wildlife habitat, then check out the NY Forest Owners Association and watch the many Webinars that are posted on-line by Cornell, SU, Penn State, U Vermont etc. Much of the forest in NY is 80-100 yrs old which is generally considered the least productive stage for wildlife. Early successional and old growth forest are the most productive stages of a forest for wildlife.
Forest management to improve wildlife habitat is what most hunters would like to see. Logging is one of the many tools to accomplish that goal and under a management plan involves more cutting to improve diversity and quality of the forest than extract commercial timber. However, the sale of commercial timber is usually needed to fund the management work.
The DEC writes Unit Management Plans (UMPs) for state lands. They are posted online and there is always a public comment period when a plan is drafted.
No I do not work for the DEC but I do own and manage forested land in NY, and I hunt the ADK, Allegany State Park and the ANF in PA.
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I see no deer so cut the woods down. Sell the timber burn the rest. Then I see deer and maybe be happy.
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Pushing my luck with the wife. Headed in. 4L, just before the rain. Ground hunt.
If your wife’s not pissed off then you are not hunting nearly enough!
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After opening day you could cut many blood trails and see 1 drag mark. The talk back at the trucks was like “Yea I got 10 shots”
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First hunted ASP in the 80s. Duck plug in shotgun, invasion of the orange army, trucks lined up on the shoulders, hunting clubs with headsets, banging pots n pans on deer drives, City hunters stealing deer from cabins (some folks chained and locked their deer) and buying bucks on the rez on way home.
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40-50 lbs
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You should have used all caps in your correction.
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PA deer and bear seasons do not coincide like NY.
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So I had an interesting morning hunting at a buddies hunting camp. On the second deer drive we did, I was a sitter with a doe tag. I did not have a buck tag as I used it on Opening day. I was dropped off via 4 wheeler and headed in to the woods to my post. 10 feet in, a BIG bodied and BIG racked 6 or 8 point jumped up in front of me and was limping very badly. It took him at least 40 seconds or more to hobble out to 120 or 130 yards on a small knoll before stopping and looking back at me for almost 2 or 3 minutes. There were two others posted above me and the drivers would head right to the buck and then towards me. One of the sitters above saw him and that he was hurt but could not shoot downhill as a driver was directly below him. I thought one of them would definately shoot but they didn't and I could have.
Three does came up between me and the buck so my eyes shifted to them and then back to the buck who was gone now. I felt bad for this deer as he should have been long gone if he were healthy and for me to be able to have 40seconds and up to two or three minutes at the 120 yard range to shoot then obviously he is hurting bad. I was torn on what to do. I know I do not have a tag, but I also know 7 others there do have one and would more than likely tag it as it was injured. I called my buddies cell 25 times and no answer. It was pure torture and I didn't care that he was a big buck, but m ore that he is a deer suffering. If it had been a doe and I didn't have a tag, I would be in the same struggle as a hunter letting a wounded deer walk away period.
Has this happened to anyone here? Did you shoot and ask for a buddy to tag it and end it's suffering? Did you let it walk off and then feel disappointed in yourself for not ending its suffering, yet not disappointed that you obeyed the rules or laws? I'm torn and can't get it out of my head. The members told me after the fact that I should have ended its suffering and not worry about the no tag part which made me feel even worse. We tried catching up to it but had no clue which way it headed. Tons of tracks in the area and no visible blood either.
Would like to hear your stories on this subject.
Scenarios like this should be discussed beforehand when hunting with a group. I have hunted in many camps and the days of hunting parties and deer drives are long behind me and leave few good memories. Fortunate to hunt solo or with 1-3 veteran hunters who are on the same page. Learn, grow as a hunter and don't let this torture you as you obviously care.
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I plan on opening up a section of hardwoods into a 1/2-3/4 acre food plot. I'm going to line it with sawtooth oaks, dunsten chestnuts, and probably some apples.
Make sure you deer protect. Chestnut oak are a good choice also. High wildlife value.
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Weather change and gun opener hs clompletey shut down deer movement. Nothing on camera for days coming in or out of the Honey hole. I did see a small spike yesterday on the edge of the cover, but the big boys are layin low. There is hoof and bedding evidence of big deer moving, but they seem to be gone by first light. Need a new plan
Same story in my woods. And they seem to be holding in the valleys.
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Deep is relative especially in the southern zone as trails and logging roads are numerous. The key is finding those nasty spots that are mostly undisturbed and funnels near those spots.
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Some people feel entitled and extend their self perceived right to use the land to others. If you don't speak directly to that person then it will continue.
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the third and fourth pic is of a strain of walleye that had alot of blue coloration in them.The picture doesn't do the fish justice because it was so colorful.They looked like a tropical fish
The blue pike genes run strong in the Raquette River in the ADK and less common, but still present, on Lake Erie.
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And what is the average hunter density sq/mile in the NZ compared to the SZ?
Google it. PA has a statewide early anterless MZ season as do other states. Many hunters in PA.
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Quick question, should I have some type of insurance on a parcel of land that I own, no house just a pond? I guess the concern is if a trespasser gets hurt. What type of insurance? Thanks for your help.
Join National Woodland Owners Association. They offer low premium landowners liability insurance.
http://woodlandowners.org/insurance/
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You guys kill.me won't hunt a spot because a shooter might walk by.. do you remember when bow started Oct 15th? I look at the 2 extra weeks as a bonus and would hunt just to get out there and get one in the freezer..
Wait a few years till deer numbers are really out of wack and they put an early antlerless only muzzle loader or crossbow season in .. then the whining will really start..
Agreed. NY has one of the longest deer seasons and up to 7 tags per hunter. Plus all the public land. The same people that complain about NYC influence on upstate also forget that NY has a northern zone with an early MZ season.
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I agree with Northsox. Cornell lands are good to have for another option for locals like us and Cornell employees that can "run out back" with a bow at 5 pm.
On another note it is obvious that the Cornell deer reduction program using White Buffalo has worked as deer are not walking around campus like in the past I have not seen one with an ear tag this year.