Dave

Are you trying to tell me something? If so get to the point, instead of just making statements. Don't know what you want from your response or what you are implying.

A few years back I switched my voting status to Independent, but will always be a Conservative.

There are two parties that run this country and neither represent the people.Probably because they are the very rich and are not in touch with the average family in this country. How can a bunch of millionaires relate to the troubles of average and poor people when they have never experienced it. We need a candidate who can relate to the common man and not special interest and lobbyists. Until that day it will be more of the same, look where HOPE & CHANCE has gotten us. They just deceive the American public and do what they want. Both parties are responsible for the mess this country is in, and now they say we should pay our fair . How much is enough?

I think the difference is that we are not paying for the abortion or the gay couple to get married. The Left wing wants us to pay for all their social justice and liberal programs. Big difference

Where do you hunt?

Doe, watch this and you will not get angry, Laugh http://videos2view.net/thongs.htm

First you mis quoted me again ,I said it was bases on Christian values, Never mentioned religion.Do you think you would ever see a christian prayer on a wall of a school in Iran? If so what would happen to the people who put it there. But even if a Arabic prayer were put in one of our schools we would probably do nothing. Wouldn't offend the Arab community. More Freemason cutting and Pasting for you Doe, just to keep you updated. Doe, please don't get angry not good for your BP Freemasons among the U.S. Founding Fathers Some people something think that almost all the Founding Fathers were Freemasons, and others that very few were. On the following websites you can find information about which of the Founding Fathers, signers of the Declaration of Independence, signers of the Constitution, and Generals in the Continental Army under Washington, were Masons. Signers of the Declaration of Independence who were Freemasons Signers of the U.S. Constitution who were Freemasons Generals in the Continental Army under George Washington who were Freemasons In summary: Category Total Number Involved Number & Percent Who Were Freemasons Signers of the Declaration of Independence 56 9 -- 16% Signers of the U.S. Constitution 39 13 -- 33% Generals in the Continental Army 74 33 -- 46% Copyright © 1998-2012 by Paul M. Bessel - all rights reserved

Doe, first I don't know where you are going with this, again what's the point. And how do you know what I have a grasp on . I never mentioned the Catholic church, and what does this have to do with a post what was previously posted. You are starting to scare me, getting like Virgil .

Yes, What's your point? WHAT'S YOUR ANSWER? A Mason is sometimes asked by a friend, a neighbor, or a business associate, "What do the Masons do?" The question may be worded more generally, "What are the Masons?" In either case, the Brother is challenged by the realization that there is no simple answer which he can rattle off "from the top of his head," because the questioner is really asking him for a comprehensive explanation about what organized Freemasonry is, what its principles and purposes are, what programs it is engaged in, how it carries them out, and what satisfactions the individual Mason derives from his Masonic membership. Some of these considerations arouse the fraternal doubt that "you can't tell that," or "that's secret," so that the Brother's reply is marked by hesitation or reluctance to explain. Puzzled by the difficulty of knowing what facets of the vast subject of Freemasonry the questioner is really inquiring about, the Mason "just doesn't know where to begin, " and too often may avoid a simple statement of facts. He isn't sure of what to say. Or, knowing that his questioner is a "practical man of affairs" who measures outcomes quantitatively, in materialistic terms, he realizes that Freemasonry's reputation cannot be explained by charts, statistics, or financial statements, because the Fraternity's real worth can be expressed only in spiritual terms, and that is rather difficult to explain to the uninitiated. Masonic terminology, the most comfortable words with which to reply, seems inadequate or out of place. Masonic "secrecy" gets in the way. Embarrassment is probably the commonest cause of a Brother's difficulty in replying to the question. He is embarrassed because he realizes that he doesn't really know enough about the Fraternity to give a good simple reply. He knows that there is much more Masonic activity going on in other lodges all over the country and throughout the world, but he has never taken the time to experience some of it or to read about it with real interest. He hasn't given much thought to the subject. He never expected to be asked such a question by a non-Mason outside the lodge. Even though he has experienced Masonry, he has never tried to express in words just what Freemasonry means to himself. A well-informed Brother, therefore, will prepare himself for the possibility of being asked such a question. Even though no one ever asks the question, he will have the confidence of knowing what Freemasonry means, especially to himself. First of all, he will determine to give a Masonic answer, one which asserts the real nature of the Fraternity as a spiritual force, as "a way of life" which seeks to improve men morally and spiritually, by associating with other idealistic men who want to improve the quality of life around them by means of a brotherhood which emphasizes the Fatherhood of God. In an age which derides ideals, absolutes, the concepts of law and order, and advocates relativism instead of standards of excellence, which angrily demands rights instead of responsibility, and which preaches a nihilistic doctrine of individualism (doing your own thing), Masons find it difficult to explain the Fraternity's idealism and its charitable and educational purposes. But it must be done. A Mason must give a Masonic answer to the question, "What are the Masons." There are really so few "secrets" which a Mason is required to keep, and so much that he should be proud to proclaim to others, that his principal concern in answering questions is probably the doubt that he can give an adequate Masonic reply. The esoteric parts of the ritual work, the grips and pass-words of the three degrees, these are really the only "secrets" which should be kept inviolate. Because it is impossible to communicate to the uninitiated the joys and satisfactions of brotherhood experienced in "the labors of the lodge," this too becomes a secret because it is inexpressible. But there is so much that can be told about Freemasonry, about the particular lodge, about the individual Mason, that the real problem in answering the question, "What do the Masons do?" is to say only enough to satisfy the questioner without boring or distracting him. He can point out that Freemasonry is an educational organization. By means of the ritualistic ceremonies and other educational programs, Masons learn and teach the truths of morality, justice, patriotism, and the necessity of brotherly love to achieve those universal ideals. Reverence for the Great Architect is inculcated because men are brothers only if they are related to God as the, sons of the Creator Father. He can explain that Masonic meetings, while resembling the meetings of any organized society, have a distinctly Masonic character.. They are opened and closed with prayer. They are patriotic because the nation's flag is kept in an honored place in the lodge and properly saluted with the pledge of allegiance. They are opened and closed with Masonic ceremonies to remind the members of the principal purposes of the Fraternity, which are to develop brotherly love and respect for truth, not the truths of scientific facts or history, but the truths which guide a man to live happily and harmoniously with his fellow man. For that reason Masonic meetings do not permit the introduction of discussions about sectarian religious differences or partisan political opinions. A Masonic lodge, if it is working seriously, teaches its members the principles involved in attaining a universal Brotherhood of Man under the Fatherhood of God. A Mason is also free to explain that Freemasonry is a charitable organization, which acts to relieve the distress of local individuals who are victims of calamity, and that it has created programs and institutions to care for its needy senior citizens, or to provide scholarship aid for worthy and needy young people in college. Masonic Homes and Hospitals, Grand' Lodge Scholarship Programs, Charity Funds, and the Hospital Visitation Program of the Masonic Service Association are examples of such achievements. Freemasonry is also, but not primarily, a social organization, which arranges special meetings to which are invited wives, children, neighbors and friends for the purposes of entertainment and sociability. Masons seek the pleasure of associating with other members of the community, hoping thereby to reveal the serious and idealistic nature of the Fraternity's objectives. There is so much that a Mason can tell about his beloved Fraternity. But the way in which he tells it is more important than what he tells. When a Mason is conscious and proud of the moral and spiritual achievements he has made through Masonry, when he has been inspired to display the beauties of friendship, morality, and brotherly love, when he realizes that his own personal life is the most important evidence he can give to show what a Mason is, he usually finds it very easy to talk about the Fraternity to his non-Masonic friends. When he knows that his lodge is a spiritual force, when it is learning and teaching its members the universal ideals of the Craft, when it is actively promoting charitable programs and pursuing truth, he will tell what Freemasonry is with conviction and enthusiasm. But he must know what he is talking about. This essay suggests only in general terms what he can talk about. He should be prepared to fill in the details. When he is convinced that he can supply those details, he is ready to answer the questions, "What do the Masons do?" and "What are the Masons?" When he is asked the question he must then decide on how much or how little to say. A brief but adequate reply is advised, for if the questioner is not satisfied, he will undoubtedly ask for further information. The following answer is only a suggestion. "Masons are men who voluntarily asked to join a lodge. They were accepted because they were good men who believe in God and hold high ethical and moral ideals. They go to meetings which they call the lodge, in order to learn and to teach what 'friendship, morality, and truth really involve, and to practice on a small scale the reality of brotherhood. They also have meetings open to their wives, children, and friends where they promote an understanding of the serious nature of the Fraternity by entertainment and sociability. Practical programs for charity and relief are planned and executed. The special kinship they feel for each other as a brotherhood is their deepest satisfaction." Up to A Page About Freemasonry main page. Last revised: 01/14/2010 02:39:05

That's exactly the way I feel about the crap you post. So what was so dopy about what I said. Was it not true? Or just not what you want to hear. Are you confused with the facts?

You've got guys on this thread insulting all non-Christian religions and proclaiming America to be 'a Christian country'; Well I don't think there were Muslims sitting down with our designers of the Constitution. Yes, they were Christians and they designed the constitution on christian values and none others. Or else we would have Shir ea law in this country and we would beat and stone our wives. Why can other country"s be called Muslim be the United States founded on Christian values some how offends people in this country.

I never said that, they absolutely do lean right, IMHO

Doe, this is a hunting site you sound like a FOOL.

Doe, maybe you should read the comment I was referring to and not be so quick to judge. JUST READ THE COMMENT . He wasn't talking about hunting, just the right wing slant on this web site. Sorry you have a problem with that. FOOL I think NOT.

Virgil, so why don't you go to some left wing liberal website where you will find acceptance. You sure as hell will not find it here.

Guy's check this out, This should sum it up in a nut shell. Early, you might learn something. http://www.youtube.com/embed/OAOrT0OcHh0?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&showsearch=0&showi <http://www.youtube.com/embed/OAOrT0OcHh0?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&showsearch=0&showi> nfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&wmode= transparent <http://www.youtube.com/embed/OAOrT0OcHh0?version=3&rel=1&fs=1&showsearch=0&showinfo=1&iv_load_policy=1&wmode=transparent> <http://www.youtube.com/embed/OAOrT0OcHh0?version=3&%3brel=1&%3bfs=1&%3bshowsearch=0&%3bshowi%3e>

Yes, if that religion threatens the United States dam straight. Or anyone else, get the message. I am with you on this Skillet.

You will find some QUACKS on this site, but for the most part there a lot of good guys who will give you good advice.

you must live under a rock if you can't understand what is happening to this country.

Grow's what's that suppose to mean "class act". Just referencing your problems with your neighbors period. Sorry for the loss of your goats. No disrespect intended.Dave

I agree, sounds like dogs not yotes.

I hear that a bunch of boobs hang out their

What guns were you using? How long did the hunt last?

I thought it was only shotgun area!

Guy's did you meet up for the squirrel hunt? If so how did you make out? How many guy's showed up? Dave