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As most of you know the anti-pheasant movement includes some hunters , including some who then turn around and tout the proverbial hunters should stick together. We (NY Dove Hunting and The Bird Hunting Society) have published counter arguments to this distortion of the facts. We are currently working on a series of reports about the matter. As a prelude to these reports, I want to share with you some of the photos we will be using and introduce the claim made made by antis (including hunters or people pretending to be hunters or paid google trolls drumming up hits for advertising - sporting gun, camo, and dead things complete). Anybody who has actually killed game birds, rather than just talks about it (or how easy they are), examines crop contents.... Here are a few, more to come....Stay tuned for series of reports........ http://thebirdhuntingsociety.weebly.com/bird-crops.html

From the DEC Facebook page: we replied as The Bird Hunting Society. Please read our response and help us tell the antis how it is. For those that do not follow the DEC on Facebook, please start, the hunting community is outnumbered on the DEC page. Please don't be rude, just read the article we refered to, take one or two talking points from it for use in your own comment. Please like our two replies and our pages. Thank you! https://www.facebook.com/NYSDEC/photos/a.10150117710380956.294616.65102420955/10153749772060956/?type=3&theater

We have been sending regular emails for some time. There are a lot of problems with that, one of which is only a few dozen messages can be sent at one time. We designed a newsletter to be palatable to a broader audience with short messages. And these can be sent in bulk. Here is a link to our first one published two days ago: http://us11.campaign-archive2.com/?u=8116d31e9eac14600f1871d1e&id=72977b0745

Check out our progress map at the link below! The Gaps show where we need to step up our effort! Contact the hunting organizations and writers of outdoor columns in those areas! The Blue represents the efforts of Brett B. and the Green the efforts of Bob R. ("Culvercreek HC"). Imagine if 10, 20, or 50 people worked at this like Brett! http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/map-of-dove-hunting-petition-signatures-91815.html

Assemblyman Lalor hosts Trap/skeet shoot, message: you are invited to our third annual trapshoot, giving sportsmen the opportunity to showcase their sport and newcomers a chance to learn. Let me know if you are going for a free NY Dove Hunting Tee Shirt to wear to it (until supplies run out)! This is an opportunity to directly interface with Assemblyman Lalor and politically active hunters about the NY Dove Hunting matter - NY Dove Hunting Tee shirt available free if you are going, unless we run out, ask us! 2015 Fall Trapshoot & BBQ Fundraiser You are invited to our third annual trapshoot, giving sportsmen the opportunity to showcase their sport and newcomers a chance to learn. -First Time Shooters & Families Welcome, Shotguns and Instruction Will Be Provided- Saturday October 10th 10:00am to 2:00pm Whortlekill Rod & Gun Club 540 Route 376, Hopewell Jct., NY ----------- $100 For BBQ & Trapshoot $50 BBQ Only If you organize a foursome to shoot and eat you get a big discount. $350 for a Foursome for BBQ & Trap Shoot. (Foursomes Must Pay In Advance to Receive Discount) You Can Pay Online Here. BBQ Includes grilled chicken, hot dogs, hamburger, salads, baked potato, corn soda, water & beer. Shotguns and instruction will be provided. Schedule Shooting 10AM - 1PM BBQ 12PM - 2PM -Rain Or Shine- Journal Ads / Sponsorships Also Available Trap House Sponsor $150 _____ (Includes 1 ticket and quarter page journal ad) Event Sponsor $250 _____ (Includes 3 tickets and half page journal ad) Lunch Sponsor $500 _____ (Includes 4 tickets and full page journal ad) BBQ Sponsor $1000 _____ (includes 5 tickets and back inside cover ad) Second Amendment Sponsor $2000 _____ (includes 5 tickets, front inside cover ad, and event banner) Repeal the SAFE Act Sponsor $4100 _____ (includes 5 tickets, back cover ad, and event banner) - Space is Limited - Must be 13 or older to shoot RSVP Requested For more details contact us at [email protected] or (845) 616-3509 Pay Online Here Checks can be made to “Lalor for Assembly” and mailed to: PO Box 334 Hopewell Jct. NY 12533 Assemblyman Kieran Michael Lalor, a former teacher at Our Lady of Lourdes in Poughkeepsie, is a Marine Corps veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom and a frequent guest on the Fox News Channel. Lalor is of counsel to the law firm Gaines, Novick, Ponzini, Cossu & Venditti. He is a graduate of John Jay High School, Providence College and Pace Law School and lives in Hopewell Junction with his wife Mary Jo and their four young children Katie, Riley, Mikey and Kieran Jr.. www.KMLNY.com

We get a lot of update inquiries. Not only is our petition growing, but so is our reach, and the word is getting out. However, the first thing we need to stress; is that this is a long-term effort that may take years. Not only is the word getting out, but much more cooperation has been fostered and more people have become informed about the matter. However, there still are many who are not caught up and need to be educated about the same elements. The outdoor media has begun to show interest in the topic as well. We are still struggling with some of them, however, because they want to focus on who NY Dove Hunting is and/or other people who have pushed for dove hunting in the past, and how difficult it is, etc.… We appreciate and need the press, however, it has not always been beneficial or as beneficial as it could be. Basically the message we need is sign the petition, visit our website to educate yourself on the matter, and follow us on social media for updates. We also need the media to push for volunteers and donations. The NY Dove Hunting advertisement on page 50 of the NY Hunting and Trapping Regulations Guide seems to be productive. Next year we want to run a full page ad or two small ads. To do this we need donations. Checks are made out to J.F. Griffin Publishing and mailed to NY Dove Hunting. For our mailing address, contact us through our website. We hope to raise $3,000 to cover a full page advertisement. Our National Hunting and Fishing Day strategy did not get off the ground this year, but we are hopeful for next year. We need volunteers to run booths at various hunting expos handing out literature, answering questions, and gathering petitions on the spot. When this gets off the ground, the movement will advance at a much, much faster pace. Those booths and literature cost money, and it would even be better if volunteers paid for them and/or gathered their own donations as much as possible. Although someone else might seek legislation, NY Dove Hunting has no plans to do so until we have gathered what we hope is sufficient petition signatures. We set the goal at 10,000. Currently we are getting signatures every day, but in the event we plateau, and the response is not revived with advertising, blogging, etc. we might settle on less than 10,000. However, we probably could get that amount over National Hunting and Fishing Day alone; once that gets off the ground. Out of around 1,090 Facebook followers, only about 90 have signed the petition. Facebook throttles pages to only 4% of their followers. With paid advertising, they allow us to reach only 7%. So if you know anyone on our page, tag them or otherwise contact them, don’t assume they are getting our feed because you did. As a page, we cannot contact them directly either, as you can with friends on a personal page. Sharing our posts on hunting-related facebook groups you belong to (or can join if you do not belong to any) which are specific to NY will help greatly. Any other way each of you can reach out is needed as well. On our website we have not only petition forms you can print out and return to us, but literature and targets with our web address on them. Placing these targets at your shooting range, particularly when people are sighting in for deer season, muzzleloader, rifle, or shotgun, will get word out and remembered. If everyone invests a few of their own dollars and prints these out and makes them available where hunters gather, it would help the movement further.

Not too long ago, two county federations have passed resolutions to seek a dove hunting season and/or reclassification of the mourning dove, a third county federation passed a resolution to request the DEC surveys small game hunters on the matter. We are unclear about what we are reading, but it sounds like the NY State Conservation Council has been on and off in its support, and the last word in 2014 is that they are on board. Additionally there are a couple of "interesting" details. For example, the NYSCC's small game committee disapproved Onondaga's resolution in 2008 requesting the DEC surveys small game hunters about the matter - read about the reason given. There is also a mention of what sounds like the NYSCC's change of heart about the matter in 2005. Lets be crystal clear: We did not write this, we are reporting it. We don't understand the comment made referencing the NYSCC's stance in 2005. As a matter of fact, we would like to be filled in better about all this ourselves, and it probably would be useful as we continue to analyze the dove situation from the past to present. There also seems to be 13 people from Onondaga county we would like to learn about.... Read about it: http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/new-york-state-conservation-council-dove-hunting-resolution.html

http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/dave-the-dove.html

In NY, there were 47 plane collision strikes with mourning doves between 6/29/12 and 1/16/15. #SigntheNYDHpetition #NYDoveHunting #DovesareDelicious An FYF (for your fodder) post. Recycling and re-tweeting appreciated....

We are also on google plus, facebook, twitter, and you tube and you can go directly to these sites off of our website. You should be on one or all of these too. If you are you can develop your own online network of hunters and distribute our materiel by using "share buttons". Additionally, every time you "like" one of our posts its distribution is increased among the greater online hunting community. Hunting season starts in eight days, so you will not be hearing from us as frequently for some time. However, we have scheduled a lot of material that will be published nearly every week, so keep checking back and/or sign up on social media for the updates. Here is the link for our Pininterest page: https://www.pinterest.com/NYDoveHunting/

Our petition is doing well, including down state, but that is where the antis know they get the most bang for their buck , so we too want to amp it up here, see article and share it! http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/do-you-live-here.html

Our petition is doing well, including down state, but that is where the antis know they get the most bang for their buck , so we too want to amp it up here, see article and share it! http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/do-you-live-here.html

Our petition is doing well, including down state, but that is where the antis know they get the most bang for their buck , so we too want to amp it up here, see article and share it! http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/do-you-live-here.html

Update August 13, 2015 New York Dove Hunting Petition is doing well. As we alluded in our slide presentation, this movement does not move unless it is pumped. We have analytic tracking which allows us to determine how many people look at our website and social media, and how many return. Of course, the number of petition signatures and social media subscriptions are known as well. We also enter the subscribers into a spreadsheet with petition signatories. Only 10% of those who follow us on social media have actually signed the petition. We have indeed tried to press those people to sign and/or ask why they have not signed, with no results for either. The number of petition signatures we receive is directly related to any action we take. Without doing anything, we might get about one signature a day. Of all the actions, except the advertisement in the Hunting and Trapping Regulation Guide, no action outperforms any other. For example, if we blog on a hunting forum or face book group, send out face book feed, advertise on face book, post on face book hunting groups, or send out mass emails, no one action yields more, and all indeed show a marked spike in signatures. Thus, it is important that you also undertake these actions and help us expand our reach. And, some of you have, keep it up. The others must become engaged as well. The advertisement in the Hunting and Trapping Regulation Guide is only a few days old, and it is indeed working. We also look up some of the signatories and notice we are now reaching a new market or demagraph, which is a very good thing. We hope to take out a full page ad next year, and it is not too early to start gathering donations for the June deadline. At this year’s rates, a full page ad will cost just under $3,000. Our National Hunting and Fishing Day Campaign did not get off the ground. That does not mean all of you cannot take a laptop and/or print outs of petition sheets and go gather signatures at these events next month. With enough people engaged, it would be very easy to get over 10,000 signatures on this one day. Again, now is the time for discussions about National Hunting and Fishing Day in 2016. The sooner this gets into play, the sooner we will be closer than ever toward a dove hunting season in NY. We created a slide show for your use to bring to your clubs. So far, we have no indication anyone has used it or recently presented to any clubs. We will be brushing up our internet sites. Besides housekeeping and maximizing the use of search engines and keywords we are going to also be working on different ways to deliver our message. We will be sending out social media feed in much smaller bites which are more palatable. In addition to that, we have been experimenting with cartoons, and will be prolifically producing cartoons and, of course, distributing them in the near future. We are excited and optimistic about the ground we have broken, the wide foundation we have built, and the new approaches, especially the cartoons we are developing. However, we are not nearly in place to take the beach yet. The sooner more people “get serious about doves” the sooner this will happen. “Time to get serious about doves!”

NY Dove Hunting's advertisement in 2015-16 Hunting & Trapping Guide is out! If you go to the link below and then scroll to page 50, our ad appears in the lower left hand corner. If ads do not appear on your screen, you will see that if you click on that location you are directed to our petition. The hard copy regulation guides will be out soon you can also look for the ad there. We again thank those who donated to pay for this ad! Moving forward, it will take some time to generate the needed political support for a dove season and we hope to purchase a full page ad next year, and to do so will require additional donations. To make a donation for next year's ad, email us through the contact page of the NYDH website. http://www.dec.ny.gov/docs/wildlife_pdf/15huntguide.pdf

http://thebirdhuntingsociety.weebly.com/ring-necked-pheasant-ndash-invasive-species-or-valuable-gamebird.html

For use at your clubs.... Loads slow,,, Keep advancing until you reach the page that says The End..... http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/presentation.html

http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/mourning-dove-fact-sheet.html http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/comparative-anatomy-of-vocal-apparatus-syrinx---songbird-vs-non-songbird.html http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/lets-talk-about-food.html http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/lets-talk-about-food-2.html http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/-dove-frostbite.html http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/the-9-step-crab-eating-process.html

Why hunt..... How to hunt, clean, freeze, cook.... Guns and Ammo, What equipment is needed.... Hunting Dogs.... http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/hunting-for-groceries-with-your-dog.html

http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/the-ny-state-legislative-sportsmenrsquos-caucus.html

http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/what-ny-dove-hunting-does.html

Please sign and get the word out. This is a long-term effort to gather 10,000 signatures. http://nydovehunting.weebly.com/petition.html

http://www.telecomintel.com/bid-opportunities/2015/02/27/6113886-Pheasant-Hatchery.html

I got the following e-mail from Fred Neff this morning. Fred was/is involved with the NYSCC and his local federation. He is credited with being the impetus for the NY voluntary habitat and access stamp. Fred also has been a long-time advocate of dove hunting for NY and a key player in it, A change was made to PA's mourning dove season this fall. Can you guess what it was? Well, they added 20 more days to the total season length (including split seasons) - up from 70 days to 90 days. This was the result of a new national dove harvest strategy cooperatively developed by state wildlife agencies and the USFWS that resulted in the 20 day addition in positively affected states in the Eastern Management Unit (EMU) - the 27 easternmost states - whenever dove populations in the EMU exceed 36.5 million birds. Recent EMU dove populations estimates of 95 million doves far exceeded that goal, PA will add their 20 additional days to the front end of the season. And what does NY get? Zero! Nada! Why? Do I really have to go there at this point? The kindest thing I will say at this point is "uninformed state legislators". While we present hard scientific facts and data that proves that sound dove management at both state and federal level (remember that the dove is considered a migratory game bird by the USFWS) poses no threat to dove populations due to hunting, NY legislators (especially our downstate Big Apple who could care less about the matter but have the vote) who fear for their political lives continue to listen to the utterly emotional drivel of our anti-dove friends. I could list a lot, but I'll just list two of the many personal favorites that I've encountered over the years here: "You've driven them to extinction once and they're just coming back". "NY will have major power outages from hunters shooting doves on power lines". Note - I'm still waiting for anyone to show me proof of that one". I've spent 50 years on this one in NY. And I wasn't, and am not, the only one involved in this for sportsmen. And I've heard it all and been through it all. But 40 out of the contiguous US states have a dove season; plus Ontario just opened a dove season. This pretty much sums it up - while on a visit to our home in Utica years ago, my cousin, Ted, from PA, when informed that we could not hunt doves in NY exclaimed, "What is wrong with these people; are they un-American?" What has to happen for NY to get their season is simple: DEC has got to stand up and take a strong a forceful lead in pushing for the reclassification. They hide behind the shield (probably out of fear for their pensions that would be jeopardized should they run afoul of the politicians and antis) that the legislature and the governor must first pass a law that reclassifies the dove as a migratory game bird and then they could saddle their horses and get it done (maybe - the tentacles of NY politics are many and wide). NY sportsmen have got to get off of their butts and show DEC that they will throw their whole weight behind this one as they have in items involving major issues of the day - deer management, habitat and access, etc. But when it comes to doves, we still are the silent majority. Most just don't understand the concept of dove hunting since they've never had it. They remain "underwhelmed" by, and resistant to, the concept. My continuing believe is that if DEC takes a lead role in this, and our states' sportsmen become interested enough to become educated, this will happen. Remember, the 8 states that resist a dove season are mostly northeast states where doves are not overly present. Deer, bear, and moose are. NY is unique in that it has everything in abundance. I once told a friend from the Adirondacks who told me that they don't see doves up there, "Hey, you want to see a dove, come down here to Central or Western NY; I'll show you at least 500 any evening that you want in the fall when the harvesting is going on and the migration is starting. And if I want to see a moose, I'll come up your way. Don't see much of them down here". I can't believe that I just wrote all of this. I think maybe I'm still a bit unrecovered from my bout with the flu. Fred.