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  1. What has been amazing me lately on some of these shows is the terrible penetration that some of these guys are getting. I seem to recall that almost all the other programs of the past featured a lot of "pass-throughs". That's good. But on many of the shows that I have seen recently, it sure looked like they were only getting around 7 or 8 inches. Awful lot of arrow sticking out the near side. They always seem to get their deer, but frankly I would be real nervous with that little penetration and their sure wouldn't be a whole lot of celebrations until I actually had that critter laying at my feet.

    Anybody else noticing that?

    Yes, all the time. Looks like most of the arrow is sticking out and often falls out of the near side, yet they whoop and holler it up like that was a great hit. I think they do this with every shot taken and then when they get the dog out and sometimes find the deer, then they have their early celebration footage to fall back on like there was "no doubt". These guys are priceless.

    One thing can be noted about some of these lack of penetration shots is that sometimes it is the result of hitting leg bone up front. Arrows can even penetrate both lungs and bounce back and fall out the near side when the hitting the far shoulder or some meaty part of leg bone.

    All in all though, I agree with your point. The footage today is just sloopy. When I make a good hit the arrow is almost always sticking in the ground behind where the animal was standing, but you don't often see that on todays TV shows.

  2. I recorded one last week that I recently watched. A guy shot at a nice buck and I could clearly see that he hit 2-3" below the spine above the guts. I thought, Good luck tracking that one! He got down and both he and his guide looked at the arrow and said it was a "clean miss" and both commented that it is a lot better than a bad hit. My jaw dropped, as I clearly saw the arrow hit 2-3" below the spine! I rewound the recording and watched it ~10x, in slow motion, and clearly saw the arrow hit the deer. That drove me NUTS!! If they were going to flat out LIE about the bad hit, then they should have edited out the shot!

    I would agree that the footage you often get is not in line with the story being told. They often cover up bad hits, sometimes even showing a recovery with a substituted dead animal that was not the one shot at and hit poorly.

    Yes the result of a miss is better than a bad hit but they also don't tell the real truth about misses either. I've seen Ciancirullo laughing about a guys repeated misses, when the real truth is that when looking at it from a shot accuracy standpoint a bad hit is a more accurate shot than a clean miss. They show the miss as a no harm no foul, when in reality it's very foul and really stinks. Guys that miss alot wound 2X as many that are not recovered, but again they cover up the truth about guys that miss alot.

    Ever notice how many spine shots they show you? Why?; because the animal went down and that is the best footage they can deliver. They also act like great shot that was when the arrow dropped the deer in it's tracks, when we all know they were an inch away from another wounded non recovered animal. We also know guys that act like that do also miss the spine by that inch frequently and they don't recover a pile of those deer as well. That's why they act like fools when they get lucky and one drops.

    Yep, there are only a few guys on TV that do it with class; Mike from Heartland Bowhunters and Greg Miller to name a couple. They tell the true stroy of what happened. Unfortunately many of the rest are still dragging their knuckles around while they climb into their treestands.

  3. Finally had enough and took the long drive over to Auburn (Bass-Pro). The new Primos is gone and a nice new shiny Bushnell Trophy is in its place now. Hopefully we're back in business.

    good move; hope you have good luck with the TCam.
  4. I had a New Mexico elk guide that put them consistently into the vital area of the 3D target at 100 yards. Ability and ethics are 2 different things and while we don't want just anybody thinking this is OK to try, it is a good thing that they put up the disclaimer that this was a professional shooter executing that long distance shot.

    Each individual shooter should have their own standard.

  5. No underwater pics; that was a surprise.

    Yea, when I went out in the morning in the dark with the chest waders on and stumbled and then went in the drink for a spell, I did think what the heck am I doing here.

    But I also had a P41 homebrew in harms way, so I aint crazy. :D

  6. Some of you guys remeber the pics from hurricane Irene where my woods / deer cam turned into a duck cam when the 1st hurricane came through. Well I left that cam that day where it had been thinking the water from the hurricane was history.

    This morning after torrential rain all night the water had come up higher than before and I tried to get out and rescue that camera. I was venturing out in the dark with flashlight in hand and was rebuffed by high water even with chest waders on, but I made a second attempt later approaching from higher ground before walking in. With a 4 1/2 ft high current of water coming towards me I was able to get to the sapling tree that trophy cam was set on, all without really fearing for my life.

    As I approached the spot, the cam was not visible. Putting my hand down in the water where it was mounted I felt the unit and removed it from the tree about 10 inches under. It was likely submerged for hours before I got to it. Now the weight seemed similar to what I was used to with a load of 8AA batteries so I was optimistic that I might have got lucky and the cam didn't take on water.

    Opening the unit up when I got home there was only a small amount of water present. Inspecting the SD card revealed it had taken pictures of my venture all the way home. Cuddos to Bushnell and Boly Media who made the 1st 2009 trophy cams as they appear to be built Ford tough.

    1st pic is me walking away after reseting the cam after the 1st hurricane. 2nd pic was taken this morning right after I pulled it from under the water. I got lucky :drinks:

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  7. If you are trying to scout and hunt bucks 2.5 or older I highly recommend you resist the temptation of going more than every other week. You will bump deer, you will leave scent and there is now doubt that will impact your hunting.

    Yep, a lot of guys think only about leaving scent behind but don't realize that your live presence while visiting these sets doesn't go unnoticed. Even when you didn't see an animal that you bumbed, the reality is that they often see and hear you coming and flee long before you get there.

    I see a noticeable difference with the amount of animal activity I get even with cams placed for getting wildlife other than deer when I visit the sites regularly The other critters like ducks and herons also get wary when you visit too much. Unfortunately this has been the year of high water and I have had to visit my creek sites a lot more often than I would like to in an effort to keep these sets above water.

    All animlas pick up on your trips to your sets, all the while you are rarely aware of them noticing your presence.

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