Doc

Not only am I going to take more pictures, but I will be coming back to prune that little guy up a bit and pull those vines out of it. It looks very healthy, but it is being buried alive with vines. I think the deer will appreciate a little care for this food source.

And such a beautiful looking face on them too ..... lol. Actually, every body of water in the area that would typically hold bullheads are still frozen over tight. But I'm glad for this reminder thread. I have a way of always missing the best parts of the bullhead run. Not this year though .... I will be paying attention this time. Best bait? .... Pollywogs (no legs even started to satisfy the law) if you can find them. What bait do you guys use?

Lol .... Thank Heavens. I am quite addicted to the stuff, and am also mildly diabetic as well.

Well, I thought I was done with this thread, believing that the majority opinion was that your pictures were those of a persimmon tree. That was the case until I ran into a tree yesterday that was exactly the same as the one you have in your pictures. Check these pictures out: So, I got back to the house all excited that I had found a rare persimmon tree, and got on the net. Well actually I found that these are not persimmons at all. Not even close. The fruit is not close in size, shape, or stem configuration. In fact persimmons don't have a stem at all but rather a collar of leaf shaped features that attach directly to the tree. Check out the following picture: There all kinds of varieties of persimmons, but wild or domestic, they all have those same features. I also checked to see if these were left-over apples on a thornapple tree, but there were no thorns, and the bark, tree shape and size were not that of a thornapple. So after looking at a whole bunch of wild crabapple trees (there are over 700 varieties), I decided that it is indeed a wild crabapple. This year there has been a crazy phenomenon that I have never seen before, where some of the regular apple trees held onto the apples and refused to drop. They then froze on these trees, and even now are still hanging frozen and rotten on the trees. Apparently the same thing happened on some of these wild crabapple trees. Do not pay a lot of attention to the color, I looked at some domestic apples that are still hanging frozen on the trees and they are the same color, so apparently freezing and rotting cause them to take on that orange color. Anyway I thought it was strange that we just had a thread about these things, and I go out and run smack dab into the very same thing......lol.

Check out Stark Brothers at http://www.starkbros.com/ as a good source of mail order trees. As far as local retail outlets, that would depend on what part of southern New York you're talking about. Most of those probably will not be known to anyone other than those that live in your area. Be sure to check the growing zones recommended for your area. Some of the varieties sold are for more southern states.

Now come-on, there has to be something in that stuff that is terribly bad for you isn't there? Isn't it a scientific fact that everything that tastes good is bad for you? I once heard of a doctor saying that if it tastes good .... Spit it out!

Sure, I stuffed a ton of it in me ..... burp! By the way, the air quality in our house is a bit on the offensive side ever since. That cabbage can have real nasty effects.

There is no doubt in my mind that doctors play the game to dig as much money out of the system as possible. I know that excess appointments are made over every little malady that someone may have. Often I push back against this kind of excessive attention but I'm afraid that most people do not. But doctors have some other accomplices that may often force them to over-medicate and over-test and over-examine. There is the court system which has forced doctors to be able to show that they have gone overboard in patient care so that they escape legal actions when normal health problems go bad. I tell you, there is enough blame to go around when it comes to health care costs. You have the pharmaceutical corporations that want to recoup research investments in the first 6 months on the market. You have hypochondriac patients who have never heard of a disease or affliction that they don't claim to have. And everyone wants the most expensive medical procedures for everything from a hangnail to the sniffles. You have researchers who are constantly coming up with new inventions and procedures of heroic proportions that cost more money than anyone can afford. Of course everyone feels entitled to all of it. Replace this, replace that, it can be done and money be damned, I demand it! There is enough blame to go around including that guy in the mirror. Yes, medical science is a wonderful thing isn't it? We keep adding years onto life expectancies. Heck, they can now keep you alive a lot longer than you even want. The money flows freely in the business of medicine. Sure it cost money to perform miracles, but then maybe we should not be whining quite so much about it all if it is that important to us.

Here's a cartoonist who nailed it when it comes to healthcare costs .... lol.

I think you are right!

Brings back a lot of great memories ...... lol.

So, what are we saying .... that this news story about sending out warning letters to assault rifle owners is totally B.S.? I think so. How can they send letters out to people they can't identify? So perhaps we should regard this story as a fabrication, because I really can't see anyway that the CT state government could do what they are claiming.

Some of this stuff really comes off as comical. I look at my wall full of bows that I have accumulated over the decades, and am still reminded that more deer were taken with that old 196? Bear Whitetail than any of the other super-expensive bows hanging there. Of course I did keep that one in use longer than any of the others. Remember that old 6-wheeler that had the epoxy limbs that you could use as a crowbar if you had to. Amazing how even that old slow clunky bow would send an arrow through a deer just like my fancy expensive Mathews does today. I suppose that if I hadn't have gotten involved in tournament shooting I probably would still be killing deer with that old thing. But I eventually got caught up in that trap of trying to "buy" accuracy....lol. I certainly have slowed down on that attitude lately.

I'm not sure of the context of your comment, but it does look like there might some confusion about acreage. An acre is a measure of area not linear distance. For example an acre can be a parcel that is only 1' wide x 43560' long or it can be 208.7' wide x 208.7' long or a jillion other combinations.

I have edited the original post of this thread to add information on identifying your NYS senator and assemblyman for those that are wondering about that. It's easy to use. You just type in you postal address with the zip code, and your results are instantly provided. Then look up these people in the text of this post and see how they voted on the Safe Act.

So, what is wrong with the conventional plow-disc-drag style of tillage? There are lots of old (very old) implements for sale at reasonable prices that could save you a lot of cash, and do a real job when you are finished

Which makes one wonder what kinds of "outside the (ballot) box" solutions you favor. Is it time to form up our militias now and over-throw the government? I hear a lot of this quasi-military style, feel-good, rabble-rousing "talk", but have yet to hear what kinds of action you are supporting. Are you looking to roll the dice and throw the baby out with the bathwater, in hopes that some unknown, future style of government might be better than what we have? Or do you simply have the attitude of destroy everything and leave it up lady luck to decide our fate? I hear a lot of talk, but I suspect that too little real thought is being applied, and perhaps one too many Rambo movies.

Interesting question. It kind of casts a shadow of doubt on the whole story. The only possible answer that I can think of is that previous background checks at time of purchase were being used as a defacto registration system in that state. It kind of makes one wonder what our background checks at time of purchase are really doing with that information.

Ha-ha .... the nut-house reference may be more appropriate than you realize. But I am curious as to whether you have begun construction of your militia compound yet. Time is drawing near you know. Make sure you stock up on fertilizer and diesel fuel. Take a lesson from those who went before you with those same paranoid thoughts. But remember, it ain't paranoia if they really are out to get you .....lol.

I just edited the "Lest We forget" thread ( http://huntingny.com/forums/topic/17272-lest-we-forget/ ) to add info on how to identify your NYS Senator, and your NYS Assemblyman. Find their names in the voting record on that page, and see if you are really being represented. You may want to vote accordingly.

BKhunter- We have a document on board that tells you which legislators voted for the Safe Act and which ones voted against it. That is what is guiding my vote exclusively. Check this out: http://huntingny.com/forums/topic/17272-lest-we-forget/

Imagine bumping into something like that in the dark on your way to your bow stand.....lol.

That's some pretty scary stuff right there, and absolutely a realistic scenario. A bigger caliber weapon would have helped conserve ammo, but the point was well made. There are no guarantees that every bullet in the magazine will hit the mark. There are no guarantees that every scenario will involve point-blank shooting and perfectly lit conditions. Who knows how many shots it will take to put down an intruder? Who knows how many intruders will be coming through the door or window? Why is the government so bent on making us helpless victims to criminals?

And there is exactly a response that my previous message was aimed at. These are the words of a defeatist that chooses to do the work of the anti-gunners. My point was actually best made by this particular response.