Doc

There is no doubt in my mind that doctors play the game to dig as much money out of the system as possible. I know that excess appointments are made over every little malady that someone may have. Often I push back against this kind of excessive attention but I'm afraid that most people do not. But doctors have some other accomplices that may often force them to over-medicate and over-test and over-examine. There is the court system which has forced doctors to be able to show that they have gone overboard in patient care so that they escape legal actions when normal health problems go bad. I tell you, there is enough blame to go around when it comes to health care costs. You have the pharmaceutical corporations that want to recoup research investments in the first 6 months on the market. You have hypochondriac patients who have never heard of a disease or affliction that they don't claim to have. And everyone wants the most expensive medical procedures for everything from a hangnail to the sniffles. You have researchers who are constantly coming up with new inventions and procedures of heroic proportions that cost more money than anyone can afford. Of course everyone feels entitled to all of it. Replace this, replace that, it can be done and money be damned, I demand it! There is enough blame to go around including that guy in the mirror. Yes, medical science is a wonderful thing isn't it? We keep adding years onto life expectancies. Heck, they can now keep you alive a lot longer than you even want. The money flows freely in the business of medicine. Sure it cost money to perform miracles, but then maybe we should not be whining quite so much about it all if it is that important to us.

Here's a cartoonist who nailed it when it comes to healthcare costs .... lol.

I think you are right!

Brings back a lot of great memories ...... lol.

So, what are we saying .... that this news story about sending out warning letters to assault rifle owners is totally B.S.? I think so. How can they send letters out to people they can't identify? So perhaps we should regard this story as a fabrication, because I really can't see anyway that the CT state government could do what they are claiming.

Some of this stuff really comes off as comical. I look at my wall full of bows that I have accumulated over the decades, and am still reminded that more deer were taken with that old 196? Bear Whitetail than any of the other super-expensive bows hanging there. Of course I did keep that one in use longer than any of the others. Remember that old 6-wheeler that had the epoxy limbs that you could use as a crowbar if you had to. Amazing how even that old slow clunky bow would send an arrow through a deer just like my fancy expensive Mathews does today. I suppose that if I hadn't have gotten involved in tournament shooting I probably would still be killing deer with that old thing. But I eventually got caught up in that trap of trying to "buy" accuracy....lol. I certainly have slowed down on that attitude lately.

I'm not sure of the context of your comment, but it does look like there might some confusion about acreage. An acre is a measure of area not linear distance. For example an acre can be a parcel that is only 1' wide x 43560' long or it can be 208.7' wide x 208.7' long or a jillion other combinations.

I have edited the original post of this thread to add information on identifying your NYS senator and assemblyman for those that are wondering about that. It's easy to use. You just type in you postal address with the zip code, and your results are instantly provided. Then look up these people in the text of this post and see how they voted on the Safe Act.

So, what is wrong with the conventional plow-disc-drag style of tillage? There are lots of old (very old) implements for sale at reasonable prices that could save you a lot of cash, and do a real job when you are finished

Which makes one wonder what kinds of "outside the (ballot) box" solutions you favor. Is it time to form up our militias now and over-throw the government? I hear a lot of this quasi-military style, feel-good, rabble-rousing "talk", but have yet to hear what kinds of action you are supporting. Are you looking to roll the dice and throw the baby out with the bathwater, in hopes that some unknown, future style of government might be better than what we have? Or do you simply have the attitude of destroy everything and leave it up lady luck to decide our fate? I hear a lot of talk, but I suspect that too little real thought is being applied, and perhaps one too many Rambo movies.

Interesting question. It kind of casts a shadow of doubt on the whole story. The only possible answer that I can think of is that previous background checks at time of purchase were being used as a defacto registration system in that state. It kind of makes one wonder what our background checks at time of purchase are really doing with that information.

Ha-ha .... the nut-house reference may be more appropriate than you realize. But I am curious as to whether you have begun construction of your militia compound yet. Time is drawing near you know. Make sure you stock up on fertilizer and diesel fuel. Take a lesson from those who went before you with those same paranoid thoughts. But remember, it ain't paranoia if they really are out to get you .....lol.

I just edited the "Lest We forget" thread ( http://huntingny.com/forums/topic/17272-lest-we-forget/ ) to add info on how to identify your NYS Senator, and your NYS Assemblyman. Find their names in the voting record on that page, and see if you are really being represented. You may want to vote accordingly.

BKhunter- We have a document on board that tells you which legislators voted for the Safe Act and which ones voted against it. That is what is guiding my vote exclusively. Check this out: http://huntingny.com/forums/topic/17272-lest-we-forget/

Imagine bumping into something like that in the dark on your way to your bow stand.....lol.

That's some pretty scary stuff right there, and absolutely a realistic scenario. A bigger caliber weapon would have helped conserve ammo, but the point was well made. There are no guarantees that every bullet in the magazine will hit the mark. There are no guarantees that every scenario will involve point-blank shooting and perfectly lit conditions. Who knows how many shots it will take to put down an intruder? Who knows how many intruders will be coming through the door or window? Why is the government so bent on making us helpless victims to criminals?

And there is exactly a response that my previous message was aimed at. These are the words of a defeatist that chooses to do the work of the anti-gunners. My point was actually best made by this particular response.

It is true that while Cuomo has been the focus of this discussion (he being the head of the snake), we must not forget that he had a large contingent of willing accomplices (lap-dogs) in the Senate and Assembly that need our attention this election also.

Interesting that you should say that because the only Republican candidate in the race announced the need to repeal the safe act at the same time he announced his candidacy. Now about who that brings out to the polls, I believe that gun owners have already displayed a rather wild passion against the Safe Act. Its a funny thing, but I haven't seen a single pro-Safe Act demonstration yet unless it was so small that it wasn't noticed. The fact is that even those that accept the safe act are not emotionally invested in it. Other than gun owners, I believe that the overwhelming majority of people probably think that the Safe Act has something to do with contraceptives, or Lockable iron containers for money and documents.

Yes, That was my point. We seem to be our own worst enemies. Rather than rallying the troops and helping them believe that we have a chance at an overthrow, so many are so willing to do the work of the antis as far as demoralizing the very forces that are needed to pull off a Cuomo overthrow. I am not sure what it is that makes people do that, but there seems to be some attraction to playing the defeatist card. All I know is that such attitudes work directly opposite for what we need to happen on election day. We do not need people trying to convince gun owners that they might as well stay home on election day because all is lost and defeat is a foregone conclusion. These are the people who become victims of the polls and surveys and then content themselves with saying, "I told you so". That's a pretty empty and worthless victory that accomplishes everything for the opposition and benefits no one in the pro-gun camp.

Ha-ha ..... Not if the end of this winter continues with the extremes that the year has provide so far. Really, I am beginning to wonder when all this crap will turn around and start coming up with "normal" daily values. I'm also beginning to get a bit concerned about the deer herd if this weather continues to run below normal values. It is protracted extreme winters like this that have the negative impacts on deer survival.

We can imagine whatever we want about how the media has twisted the story, or prior warnings, or any other dreamt-up version of what went on. The imagination is a wonderful thing .... lol. But, actually there really is no point in discussing the incident at all if we are going to dream up our own scenarios. Do I believe that the incident happened exactly as reported? Yeah, I sure do, and that is based strictly on the preponderance of similar goofy acts taken by schools all over this country on things related to guns. I have no reason to doubt that such a thing could happen, exactly in the way it was reported. The educational system is determined to imprint their values and attitudes regarding guns on every individual who passes through their system, and they don't particularly care what ridiculous and contemptible methods they use. They will not be happy until the word gun is stricken from the approved vocabulary of every student. And it is our tax dollars that support this foolishness. Frankly I am getting damned sick of it and I am getting damned sick of all the apologists for that system and their liberal leanings and influences on our youngsters.

It is not necessary to be in the majority to influence an election. A large minority block of voters (like gun owners and other that sympathize with supporting the 2nd Amendment) can have an impact if the passions run high enough to get better turnout at the polls that the majority. Also, minority interests can have greater impact when their voting choices happen to align with others who have different gripes with Cuomo (and there are many). I have not given up on turning the political make-up of this state yet. A lot of the future of gun control rides on this election. We need solidarity in our voting direction. Even well intentioned discouragement is something that we really don't need at this point in the election year. I am convinced that a well-motivated and passionate and large block of voters can pull off the upset. But we can't bury ourselves in hopelessness and self-pity and throw in the towel before the fight even begins.

You're right. It seems that every time I wanted to get out and do something, the weather was so brutal that I never really got anything done. What a weird winter!