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I can imagine Andy chuckling out loud while reading this. He knows that there are no such restrictions on him. He makes the rules as he goes along, and thanks to NYS apathy, he gets away with it. I intend to do my part to attempt to unseat this evil character, but I have to admit that we likely have lost complete control over our government. It remains to be seen how it all turns out, but I am beginning to fear the worst. Politics has become an exact science that all the characters in our government have mastered. They all know the impotence and lack of dedication that has taken over the voting public.

What is with these damned ducks and geese that they don't know about migration? Is it just my imagination, or does it seem to anyone else that these critters seem to wintering more and more in NYS than they used to. My Gosh, the geese in Canandaigua are amazing numbers, all through the winter. I can't imagine how they survive.

First-light- The Youtube version worked great. Thanks for posting it. That is absolutely the best hunting video that I have ever seen.

For some unknown reason, My computer would not play the video part, but the audio came through ok. Simply listening was a blast. I have never heard such excitement in a little kid over anything.

So now that we are deeply involved in "global cooling" are we supposed to run outside and start spraying some aerosol cans around in the air? .....lol.

Currently it is a law that can not be complied with, which voids it's implementation until such time as a system enabling compliance is established. That certainly sounds like a perfectly good legal argument for anyone that would care to challenge it. And, who knows perhaps there would be no real legal need to challenge it.

Actually, in my area it is typical to have at least one of these March storms. In fact it was a March storm a bunch of years ago that required me to get a payloader in to open up my driveway. So March has not been a kind month to me, more often than not.

I'm not sure about any legal restrictions involving opening up an abandoned town road. We recently had a thread about that sort of thing and the possible legal ramifications involved. Could be something you might want to check with the highway superintendent of the town first. See if the township has a web-site with town phone numbers.

The tags tell me that they had intentions of coming back for them. Also, if the tags are filled out, that kind of say that they were most likely acquired legally.

Yup, it's a sellers market when it comes to ammo. They don't need NYS business enough to put up a fight. But I can see how the OP might have become a bit confused. We have a system that has created a defacto ban on mail-order ammo sales even when the mechanism to enforce that part of the law doesn't exist. Chalk it up to another wack on gun owners that Andy and his minions have gotten away with.

If I understand it all correctly, the problem with mail order purchases of ammo was relating to the fact that the Safe Act required back-ground checks which are only valid when performed "in-person" (not possible with mail order). But, The background check portion of the Safe Act is voided by the fact that no such background check system exists. I believe that mail order houses could continue to sell to NYS up until a background check system is devised, if the companies had the stones to test the law.

My guess: Hunter or hunters were unfamiliar with hunting area. Went out to get help for dragging. Couldn't find the exact spot where they left the deer.

Do not sell this devious minded, treacherous politician short either on a state level or national level. I have seen this creep perform all kinds of havoc on the Constitution that everyone swore up and down would be impossible for any Governor to do. And yet here it is and it is beginning to look more and more like we are powerless to undo it. I truly hate under-estimation. It is a weakness that more often than not comes around to bite us in the butt. Take this guy as the serious threat that he is and don't be taking anything for granted. Just because a guy is evil doesn't mean that he's stupid.

Here's the deal, Cuomo is a proven anti-gun advocate as extreme on that end as they can get. He also has demonstrated the ability to get (force) legislative support for his anti 2nd Amendment beliefs. That is a combination that has already been demonstrated and gives us all an inkling of where he would take his beliefs in the future. There is no doubt in my mind that he must be replaced, and it really doesn't even matter by who. And the same thing can be said about every legislator that voted for the Safe Act.

I have a story of a deer that I killed years ago that was the result of a deflection off a small unseen raspberry stalk that was almost in front of the deer. The arrow that was directly on its way to a perfect lung shot took a sudden flip just before it got to the deer and passed through it's neck. As luck would have it the arrow deflected into the neck and severed the jugular vein, and proved to be a very devastating shot. So, did I from that day forward always consider archery neck shot to be a viable shot selection just because it was so lethal that one time? Absolutely not. I felt very lucky to not have had a major disaster on my hands. There are certain rump shots that are super lethal if you happen to be so lucky as to hit the femoral. Good shot selection? ..... Not in my estimation. Don't be too impressed with a low percentage shot that happens to get lucky. It doesn't make it a good shot selection.

Well, I'm trying desperately not to twist this thread too far off topic, but in my world, not voting at all is not an option. There is an opportunity to send a pro-2nd Amendment message this fall, and I will not pass up that once in a lifetime opportunity that gun owners have been given. Mr. Theil is a downstate Assemblyman that also needs special attention by the gun owning voters of his district in that he also voted for the Safe Act. And yes, he very well may be a "grandstander" for exactly the same reasons as Andy. Hopefully he too is feeling the heat. Each one of us has our own district election candidates to take care of depending on how they voted on the Safe Act. But staying on point, this thread is about deceitful activity by Cuomo as pointed out in the original post, and I am trying to stay focused on that in spite of your attempts to divert.

Of course I did. But the more important question is, "Do you intend to back up your actions at he polls this November"? The way you are trying to deflect attention away from the real problem and the real solutions here makes me wonder. I am not going to sit back and say, "Gee I did all I could do". We have a much bigger achievement to accomplish. We don't need apologists for political grandstanding, and attempts to buy back the lost favor of voting gun owners with public money. The fact is that unlike you, I can not brush aside the callous and insulting treatment that legislators routinely force on us, and the attitudes of contempt that they hold their constituents in. I am arguing for fanning the flames of disgust into an organized attempt to send a clear message to those that displayed their true colors on that Safe Act vote including their leader, Cuomo. We have an opportunity to use the anger in the gun owners to send that message, and if we don't get too many people trying to deflect that effort by brushing aside such things as grandstanding for political benefit and other abuses by politicians, perhaps we might just have a chance at pulling off the upset. What we don't need are statements like "I really don't care if he is grandstanding". That is not the way to encourage the unified front that we need to unseat this guy and his like-minded friends.

I think that some here need to have an honest discussion with Canadians about the quality of their national healthcare. I have a brother-in-law in Canada that supplies plenty of examples of where national healthcare leads. Bottle-necks that are created by this unlimited unrestricted healthcare with everybody clogging their system with hang-nails and sniffles, causes some very lengthy waits for diagnostic testing procedures for very real symptoms.

First of all, you should care if he is "grandstanding", especially when he is using tax-payer money to finance what amounts to free campaign expenditures on his behalf. Secondly, to use your analogy, Cuomo is both the meat and the potatoes. He is the guy who is buying votes with our money and is displaying a mentality that you can indeed screw gunners (or any voters), as long as you can successfully divert public money to buy back their votes. The assumption is that they are too stupid to even understand it or even care about it. This is only the most recent display of that kind of mentality in most of our elected officials, and hopefully, voters will get a little smarts and understand that it is that mindset that is the problem and the reason that this sort of thing is going on in the first place. I understand what you are trying to say about priorities, but at some point you have to recognize the more fundamental part of what is going on here, and begin to "care" about who and what is really screwing us over and why. Also , hopefully you and others will decide to finally do something about it while the opportunity is here.

As has already been said a few times, there has to be more to this story than what has been reported in this story. Nobody is required to demonstrate that they were in imminent danger by waiting until they or someone in their family is dead or wounded. That's just plain ridiculous and as wacked out as this country's legal system is, I sincerely doubt that people are under that kind of self defense definition. I believe what we have here is either faulty reporting, or reporting before all the facts have been discovered.

So is this where we are heading? Are we supposed to just leave our well-being and the safety of our loved ones to the mercy of the thugs of this world. Well, that won't be happening in my home. I say there is no excuse for a burglar to be inside my house. There is also no way for me to determine if they are armed. There is also no way for me to determine their mental state or whether or not they intend to do harm. So my approach is to level any threat that is within the walls of my home. I have always been of the assumption that that action is within my legal rights. Is there some reason why this guy has been singled out as one to be denied that right to self defense?

Can't say that I have heard of a lot of people hopping on a jet the Philippines to access the care of those "decent doctors". Look, nobody wants to see people going without health care because they can't afford it. But any solutions need to keep people incented to at least try to pay or try to get into a position where someday they will be able to pay their way. It appears that everything today is aimed at creating dependency. People are starting to throw their hands up in frustration when they see others having things that used to cost hard work, responsibility and a sense of pride, now being simply given to anyone who asks for it. As the converts grow, we are seeing more people eating from the trough than those that are filling it. How long do you suppose that can keep on going?

I have no problems with lots of deer to hunt. But some of the places where there is still a pile of deer left, are places where the DEC has made a concerted effort with crazy amounts of antlerless permits being issued, to wack on the populations. I know that here in 8N that is the case. I am not complaining. It sure is nice to be guaranteed 2 permits (and even more) while having deer running all over the place. And so far no indications of habitat destruction or negative effects on the herd. Kind of a win-win situation .... eh? But it does raise one big question. My question is, "Is the permit system still viable in controlling the herds"? Are the hunters still doing their job? If they are, why do we continue to see more and more deer in spite of the fact that they seem to be opening the floodgates on permit numbers. If hunters are not doing their job ..... Why not? Is the system still working?

A new Sienna poll states: "Statewide, 54 percent said they would re-elect Cuomo, a Democrat who is expected to run for a second term this fall. In Upstate, 4 out of 10 voters said they were ready to vote for Cuomo; 54 percent said they'd prefer someone else." That is a big slips from just a couple of month's earlier. From a TV news story that I watched last night, a good chunk of the blame for the slip was attributed to the NYS Safe Act. So for those that think we have not gotten Cuomo's attention .... Think again! And anyone who does not see all this sudden interest in hunting and outdoor activity by the Cuomo camp as a blatant attempt to bribe the votes of gun owning outdoors people, simply are demonstrating that the ploy is working. He is simply shoring up a soft spot in his popularity.

We got very close to 50 degrees yesterday, and it seemed like the deer were really loving it. Six at our place and another 12 stopped us on the way to town when they were crossing the road. They all looked in very good rig. Meanwhile, the body count along our local roads continues to mount. It really looks like the population is still very high. I know that here in 8N the number of permits was obscene, but it still doesn't seem to make much difference. I wonder if maybe they have finally reached a point where they are issuing more permits than hunters are willing to fill or capable of filling.