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All the comforts of home .... ha-ha. That really looks nice. Next summer, get some pictures of that beaver pond and some of the surrounding area. I think at one time we had a thread about pictures of hunting camps, but it seems to be long gone now (at least I can't find it). It was interesting to see all the different styles of hunting camps that people have.

It looks easy enough to do, but I have not yet done it. So I would say, follow the instructions provided in this thread. If you can't do it, keep trying or take it in and have it done. I have always used the metal D-loop and for the first time had the rope put on when I was having a string replaced at the archery shop. By the way, do not resort to using the metal D-loop. I used one for years, but I did finally have a failure with one of those.

I have added my support.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/04/us/chris-kyle-american-sniper-author-reported-killed.html?_r=0

One of the most effective things you can do is to keep the issue going. Letters to the editor in local papers are always good. Also, the time may be right for another round of letters to your state and federal legislators either thanking them for their "no" vote, or reminding them that they have lost a vote for the ones that voted for that trash-law. Don't let the issue fade into oblivion. The worse thing that can happen is for us to become consumed in apathy. Also, keep in mind that Obama has yet to crank up his effort to stick it to gun owners. Contact those federal representatives and let them know how you feel about further gun legislation.

I would love to see pictures of your camp and surrounding views. I always like seeing those kinds of pictures.

I don't know ..... something is changing. I've been noticing a lot more mainstream media reports that are showing a sympathetic coverage toward gun-owners. Along with that is coming a negative slant against cuomo and the way he bulldozed his gun package through using legally questionable tactics. That is a bit shocking, because that is not typical of the media. Something is going on that is changing minds on the issue. And then too, there is this massive enrollment in the NRA. That's unusual and unprecedented. I think there are signs of a grassroots mindset shift. No it's not anything that is going to show up right today to immediately reverse the cuomo gun-owner harrassment. But it may stop any future activities of that sort. His popularity ratings took a huge hit over this, and from what I am reading the negatives are not just coming from gun owners. With a little bit of effort at election time, I think we have a chance of bouncing a bunch of these anti-gun jerks. If that happens, you will see the anti-gun forces crawling back under their rock. Nothing makes a bigger impact on changing their principles than threats to their votes..... lol. However, the fact still remains that if we are going to eliminate the cuomo "Gotcha" legislation, we only have one route and that is the courts. That's all I see on the immediate horizon. Anything else is just idle talk and posturing.

You know what I would like to see is some of the pictures from the east end of Lake Ontario. i have heard of some of those 4' snow dumps, and it would be interesting to see some of those late winter accumulations with house entrances included. I can't imagine how people get around in those kinds of snow depths. Anybody got a couple of pictures of that?

You're right. A troll can't survive without someone taking the bait .... lol. It's time to just let it die a nice quiet natural death.

I'm not sure what you are expecting. A County Board of Supervisors will not be advising illegal activity and I would be scared as hell if they did. I only mentioned their resolution to show that at least one county (so far) is not afraid of taking a political stance in favor of gun rights (something that takes more political courage than you will ever imagine). Law suits do not happen within a couple of weeks, at least not any that you are hoping to win. If we are defeated due to impatience and rushing headlong into it without proper preparation, there likely will be no serious follow up. Given the fact that we don't have an unlimited treasury like the state does, and that only a small percentage of gun owners actually put their money where their mouth is, we do not get unlimited opportunities to fight this in the courts. I suspect that it is a one-shot deal. So time and care better be taken to make it a good one. Let's not be demanding that our law enforcement agencies do what we know they cannot do. Law enforcement agencies are bound by the laws that they are enforcing. Things are happening, but in a logical organized and legal way. There are legal procedures for doing this. Yes, we are all impatient, but demanding unreasonable and unlikely activities and responses will not hurry up the process.

Sorry, I just have a dislike for trolls and their mentality.

It would appear that perhaps some of the gun owners are starting to wake up and understand that anti-gun activities are more than just a theory. We can thank our anti-gun fanatics for stirring up the awareness. They had been successfully making their advances by slow, quiet, behind the scenes activities, and they decided to take advantage of dead children to engage in a new round of bold activity. In the long run, that may prove to be their undoing.

Not that this fits the description of "concrete action to restore the gun rights we lost to Cuomo's new gun laws", but I would simply like to proudly proclaim that my County Board of Supervisers (Ontario County) is in the process of drafting a resolution opposing the passage of the NY Safe Act. It doesn't really mean anything other than to show Cuomo that not all areas of government have turned on gun owners. I did read something the other day about the NYSPRA law suit Dinsdale mentioned in his reply. I want to caution you not to expect the legal action to fly through as quickly as Cuomo slipped it to us with his anti-gun "Gotcha law". We have to grind it out in the normal, legal fashion.

No problem there .... I've finally figured out that you are simply a troll that gets some kind of weird kick out of coming on here, plunking down your playlist of favorite anti-gun/liberal links just to see what kinds of reactions you can stir up. So I just take them for what they are and don't even bother accessing them. Your little disclaimer really should be updated to reflect the truth. We all know what you are. You've shown your stripes here just a few too many times to offer up that line.

I believe that if they were "in plain sight", like laying on the seat or somewhere else where the cop doesn't have to root around in the car, I believe that discovery under those circumstances is allowed.

And now a touch of reality. First of all, there will be no overwhelming refusal to register. Are you kidding? .... we can't even get everybody together on a simple letter-writing campaign. You can't even get all hunters to agree that this was a bad law (look at past threads here). These are gun owners you are talking about. The overwhelming majority don't even belong to the NRA ..... lol. Second, the number of people who own these guns are relatively few in number and will be no problem handling and prosecuting them one at a time. Also, in relative to NYS population, the number of AR owners is absolutely tiny. Third, what person in their right mind is going to make it so that they don't even dare take this super expensive weapon outside to shoot it? Maybe it is a lot of fun owning an expensive rifle that you have to keep boarded up in the house walls. Are you going to be the first to risk felony prosecution and risk obtaining a legal felony status where all the rest of your guns are illegal to possess? Fourth, don't be acting like our only options are illegal ones. We have not yet begun to take the fight to the courts. Come on people stop sidetracking from real solutions with all these pipe-dreams. It's time to get behind some real solutions instead of all these feel-good schemes. But if you have a burning desire to become felons ..... knock you socks off

I'll tell you what is scarey is this guy's skillful use of every underhanded way of operating. This slimey way that snuck this gun law through and then the "window-dressing" meetings he is orchestrating around the state that nobody knows about until it is impractical for gun enthusiasts to attend. It's all show-boating to show how diligent he is about making sure everybody understood the law. Or another way to look at it is that he is having fun showing the gun advocates how it is going to be for them in his state. He does seem to be a master of political dirty tricks the only difference is that his dirty tricks are not just aimed at opponents, but they are even more aimed at constituents as well. This guy is a real slime-bucket and even if I had nothing to do with guns, I would be scared to death of somebody that loves abusing his power as much as this creep does. His slippery tactics can be used on more than just gun owners. There is some signs that more people than just gun owners are starting to catch on to him.

Hunting becoming the "Sport of kings" ..... lol. It sure looks like some hunting has already got there.

Let me explain something to you about the "real world". You break the law, you pay the price. Make it a felony, and the price gets a lot bigger. And when the dust all clears, there's no glory and hero-worship. There's no Bruce Willis wannabe walking triumpantly into the sunset. You just become another criminal locked up in the slammer or worse and if anybody thinks about you at all they are just thinking another gun nut got his proper due. That's the real world.

It's a bit of a ridiculous question because there is no real comparison between giving up a first-born vs. registering a gun. But if your question is really asking if there is anything that the government could do that would stir me to defiance of the law or perhaps even open rebellion, the answer is absolutely yes. However, gun registration is not it. And, violence or law-breaking would not be my first thought or act. There would be a rather lengthy procedure involving trying every avenue of using the law to reverse whatever the grievance was. You see I do not use the threat of law breaking easily. It is not my first thought or act because I know where open defiance of the law would lead, and there really are no winners when that is what you resort to. So if I were to engage in defiant illegal acts or even recommend such acts, the grievance would have to be unimaginably severe with absolutely no legal avenues left to me. We're not even close on this one. I personally hold our system of laws in pretty high esteem and believe that the only reason we still have this country is because I and the vast majority of the citizens have this respect for laws. I believe that losing respect for the law is at the root of a lot of the problems that we face today. And warts and all, this is not a system that I am ready to have any part of trashing as long as there are still legal means to be pursued.

You seem to be confusing "standing up for your rights" with criminal behavior. Understand that the first step in standing up for your rights does not involve felonious activity. Turning to anarchy as the first and only answer to government intrusions is not what I would call rational thought. We are a nation of laws and procedures, all of which have to be exhausted before we turn to confrontation and likely an armed conflict with a very bad end.

Re-loading press Powder dispenser Powder scale Priming tool Dies Case sizer and de-priming dies bullet seating dies Case length trimmer De-burring tool A good set of vernier calipers Components primers brass (cases) powder bullets Reloading manual - I recommend Hornady's book, but there are others that are all good. Probably the best accessory that I can recommend would be a friend that reloads to sit with you for a while to show you step-by-step exactly how to do it. So everybody ..... What did I forget? I know that list sounds awful short to me like I might have left out a bunch of stuff.

Ha-ha ..... Kind of like the way they jammed through the gun law in the first place. We've got a stealth government under this Cuomo character. He's using every trick in the book to keep gun advocates off-balance. Amazing how skillful he is at screwing the public to get his agenda. Maybe "amazing " isn't the right word ..... It's more like "scary". Makes you wonder what other things he's slipping under the table.

Sorry, got the shows confused.

There are a few places around the state where they have been spotted. However, if you can go out in NYS and intentionally target and hunt down a wild pig, I would say that you are one exceptionally lucky individual, or perhaps the best hunter on the planet.